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[ashersky]

and like I said before I am only trying to lead town because no one else seems like they want to step up to the plate.

But hey, do whatever you want.

PS: if you think I am arch's scum buddy, maybe you should look back at my interactions with him not just today where it was obvious he was scum... maybe look at day2 and day3 where I repeatedly lead the charge against him.

Up until the top of this page, I would have staunchly put you in the anti-Arch came.  But you're purposefully slowing down his lynch for someone who 1) hasn't been online since Sunday and 2) hasn't responded to an official mod-prod in 24 hours.  That is just way off.

I think we all think we have a very good chance of having caught scum.  Why slow it down now.  As you mention yourself, town's a bit quiet at this point.  A scum lynch will help that.

This is absolutely ridiculous. I AM STILL VOTING FOR HIM! I WANT HIM LYNCHED! I have never said don't lynch arch. I have just said to wait. That is all! You are trying to rush a lynch that could potentially hurt town. Can't you see that?

I ask you again, what do we gain from lynching arch over waiting for a little bit to see if Ozle comes in and has anything to say? What? You haven't answered this and until you do--and if it is a rational and worthwhile--I will refuse to take anything you have to say on this matter seriously.

Also I do not trust that you received no money last night. There is not way to validate that statement and I still think that you are not the person to be hammering arch. Someone else should do it and I think sudgy (our IC or do you still dispute that?) should coordinate it.

Stalling is anti-town.  What do you expect scum to say about caught scum?  If Ozle is scum, he's not going to sweep in here and say "Oh man, you caught my partner."  He's going to say very little, or just agree that he looks scummy and vote.

Why we need to stall I do not understand.  The more we stall, the worse the game will get.  It's Friday, and you want to wait until Saturday.  I just don't get it--activity will go down, not up.

And why, all of a sudden, we need OZLE to weight in, I have no idea.  Sudgy the IC?  Fine.  I get it.

I mean, imagine we caught scum, but someone goes "hey, you know what, before we hammer scum, let's wait for ashersky to get back in here and comment."  I mean, that makes no sense.  Neither does waiting for Ozle.



As for me getting cash or whatever, you can't even validate that by killing me.  I have a lot of useful info to share with town, but everyone is against claiming of any sort.  You know I'm all about claiming AS TOWN.  Especially on D4.  I mean, what can scum possibly NOT know about the Bank at this point?  And if we had claimed some stuff earlier, maybe we wouldn't be in this position.

Really, if we didn't have Arch looking so terrible, I'd ask you to get me to L-1 so I could claim everything I know before you hammer me and hopefully that would help town more than this stalled out day is.

[sudgy]

Alright, here's my reads:

Jimmmmm/raerae/Insomniac: Lurkers.  They need to post more.  The longer they stay like this, the more I'll get suspicious of them.

Sudgy, I'm sick of this.  What part of v/la or I don't have power is confusing to you?  Was I inactive much of D2 and D3?  Yes.  Yes, I was.  Did I post why?  Yes.  Yes, I did.  Check out the winter thread if you don't believe the power thing.  Somebody in this game knows my real name and can Google me to see the names and dates of the events I was on while I was v/la (please, if you do that, do not post it).  I have been more active than you today yet you insist on calling me lurky.  Enough is enough and it is becoming insulting.  I let it go before because I figured you just missed it but this is the second time I've pointed it out now.

It's more lately, you still haven't said too much.


Ashersky: As we've said before, we will not lose a single thing by waiting until tomorrow.  Now, looking at your post, I realized that since you live in Australia and you say it's Friday already you might have gotten confused because it's still Thursday where I live.

[sudgy]

Wait a minute, do we start losing our bankable time on Friday or after Friday?  If it's on Friday, we need to lynch Arch.

[ashersky]

Ashersky: As we've said before, we will not lose a single thing by waiting until tomorrow.  Now, looking at your post, I realized that since you live in Australia and you say it's Friday already you might have gotten confused because it's still Thursday where I live.

Friday evening here is Friday morning there.  We'll be on the same day in 2 hours or so.

Wait a minute, do we start losing our bankable time on Friday or after Friday?  If it's on Friday, we need to lynch Arch.

I think it's on Friday at some point.  Yuma asked for clarification.

[sudgy]

If it's on Friday, and it's getting close anyway, Everyone, if they want, can vote for Arch.  We don't need to wait anymore.

[raerae]

You will start eating into your banked time (16 days) on Friday.

at what time will we start eating into our bankable time on friday?

Ash, sudgy, why not wait until Robz has answered this?  You both know he's a night owl and will likely be in to answer soon.

[sudgy]

It's getting close to Friday anyway.  Just a little less than one and a half hours.

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: Archetype is obvious, and his silence isn't helping his case at all.

[yuma]

My concern is that Ozle might now something from a role that he obtained...

I don't know what, but something. He, like you have said, has been gone and while he was gone there was a night phase that he may or may not have taken actions during.

Look, ozle having anything to say that is worthwhile is slim. I admit that. But there is a chance. A chance that he will have some sort of result that will help us. And there is a chance that he will be NK--small, yes, but still a chance, and lose that information if we go into night w/o giving him a chance to tell us.

I think that small of a chance is worth waiting for, but not to the point that we use up bankable time.

But I have already said this. Many times. You are a brickwall and I am a hurting head.

[yuma]

It's getting close to Friday anyway.  Just a little less than one and a half hours.

but ultimately yes, go ahead and let's lynch him and get this over with, my argument with ash is stupid and distracting from what we are ulimately trying to do because we are obviously failing at communicating.

[yuma]

unofficial vote count

ashersky (1) --  Archetype
Archetype (5) -- yuma, sudgy, raerae, eevee, Jimmm

Not Voting (4) -- Ozle, Insomniac, ashersky, Jorbles

[ashersky]

unofficial vote count

ashersky (1) --  Archetype
Archetype (5) -- yuma, sudgy, raerae, eevee, Jimmm

Not Voting (4) -- Ozle, Insomniac, ashersky, Jorbles

He's at L-1, right?  Sudgy, unvote.  I'll vote and you hammer.  That'll assuage yuma's hammer concerns.

[Archetype]

Vote: Archetype

[yuma]

unofficial vote count

ashersky (1) --  Archetype
Archetype (5) -- yuma, sudgy, raerae, eevee, Jimmm

Not Voting (4) -- Ozle, Insomniac, ashersky, Jorbles

He's at L-1, right?  Sudgy, unvote.  I'll vote and you hammer.  That'll assuage yuma's hammer concerns.

Yay! we are communicating! Thanks ash.

[Jimmmmm]

lol

[yuma]

psych... should have seen that coming!

FLIP! FLIP! FLIP!

[Jimmmmm]

If Arch is Town he's screwed the rest of us over majorly.

[ashersky]

If Arch is Town he's screwed the rest of us over majorly.

No way he does that as town.  Just don't see it. 

[Archetype]

*cough* mail-mi *cough*

[sudgy]

Then again, if mail-mi or lekkit asked Kooshie if Arch was the mafia, they couldn't trust Kooshie because it would become some type of WIFOM...

[Robz888]

Vote Count 4.5

ashersky (1) -- ashersky
Archetype (6) -- yuma, sudgy, raerae, Eeevee, Jimm, Archetype

Not Voting (3) -- Ozle, Insomniac, Jorbles

You managed to achieve a lynch without wasting any bankable time. Marvelous! What's even more marvelous is that Archetype was a Scum-aligned Mountebank! That's two down, two to go, friends!

Your coin totals will be updated shortly.

NIGHT 4 START

[Robz888]

Coin totals have now been updated. Moves in 24 hours, please.

[Robz888]

In a hurry, so let's get down to it.

Ozle was modkilled for inactivity.
Yuma was killed.

Both were Town-aligned Coppersmiths.

Thread unlocked - Day 5 Start!

[ashersky]

In a hurry, so let's get down to it.

Ozle was modkilled for inactivity.
Yuma was killed.

Both were Town-aligned Coppersmiths.

Thread unlocked - Day 5 Start!

Wow.  A high scum read killed by scum?  Strange...

[ashersky]

It is 5v2.  Mylo right?

Top suspects are now Eevee and raerae.