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[shraeye]

would you ahve kept yuma as the kill, after mcmcsalots claim?

As scum, I would have killed mcmcsalot.  Then do my darned bestest to argue my way out of it.

[Jimmmmm]

Also, Robz' and my plan at the start of the game was for him to lurk and then appear and act really scummy and I'd have to conclude that unhelpful Robz is Town Robz. So now next time he does it we know that he's planned to do it as scum before.
You're welcome.

[EFHW]

The only suggestion I would make is getting some kind of input before setting a deadline that will be the same everyday, especially if it's going to be in the middle of the day when people have work and school.  I know time zones are an issue, too, so maybe some changing around would be more fair.  Just a thought.

[Jimmmmm]

would you ahve kept yuma as the kill, after mcmcsalots claim?

As scum, I would have killed mcmcsalot.  Then do my darned bestest to argue my way out of it.

Interesting. In hindsight I was wishing that I'd jumped on for a minute, seen the claim and killed mcmc without anyone noticing I was there.

[EFHW]

The biggest indication Jimmm was scum is that Robz was throwing a hissy over mail-mi's absence, but staying mute about Jimmm's lack of participation.

Good point.  I took that as evidence of Robz being scum, but I should have taken it the next step further.

[spiritbears]

[ author=Jimmmmm link=topic=6684.msg233206#msg233206 date=1366994448]

That's basically the case in hiI pointed  it up your misread : off wagon/MIA st critical times,.and making really scummy cases on me. I bekeive both you and seversl others had good cas on him prior to the robz vote.  But I need to read back again.

I actually genuinely disagree with this case. I was off the wagon because you jumped on before I had a chance to do it in a Towny fashion. I was offline at critical times because I was working and I had no way around that. And I do believe in my case on. I was quite ready to go for EFHW and shraeye, but your wagon analysis after derphammering actually seemed really scummy to me.

That is only true if you actually think I was talking about day 2 but when I called you out on that, you never backed down and continued to use that as an argument against me even when I pointed out your misread .  Probably if shy would have reread that section he would have seen your false argument and how you bussed it even after I clarified.

Okay, I'm pulling up the quote to work this out, because I still think you were talking about Day 2.

We need a list of who was on which wagons when they went down. I think given what happened st the last deadline we should know Me,Mai and Shyrae are in the clear. (Mai because of uncontested fool claim).that lesves jimm and efhw.  Efhw sas on robz.  So i think jimmm is out best bet
vote:jimmmm

Okay, so "We need a list of who was on which wagons when they went down." That's talking about both days. And the obvious one to talk about is the one that just happened at hit scum right?
"I think given what happened st the last deadline we should know Me,Mai and Shyrae are in the clear. (Mai because of uncontested fool claim)." Okay, I guess that's talking about Day 1.
"that lesves jimm and efhw.  Efhw sas on robz.  So i think jimmm is out best bet" Unless I'm mistaken you're separating EFHW and me by who was on the Robz lynch. You ended up voting for me because I wasn't on the Robz lynch, right? But you prevented me from being on the Robz lynch by jumping on before I could.
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That is not the argument you kept making in the game. And your repeatedly calling me scummy from this exchsnge had people doubting me.  It was s wonderfully scummy tactic. I just can't believe Shyrae didn't see through it. Since it was basically the crux of your case against me....disappointed really

[EFHW]

I like blitz, though.  I'm so impatient in the longer games.

[spiritbears]

Also, Robz' and my plan at the start of the game was for him to lurk and then appear and act really scummy and I'd have to conclude that unhelpful Robz is Town Robz. So now next time he does it we know that he's planned to do it as scum before.
You're welcome.

So the feingned outrage when I suggested you were lurking.....

[spiritbears]

I like blitz, though.  I'm so impatient in the longer games.

I agree. This is so much funner to play!!! I like the quick deadlines and quick night times!!

[Jimmmmm]

Also, Robz' and my plan at the start of the game was for him to lurk and then appear and act really scummy and I'd have to conclude that unhelpful Robz is Town Robz. So now next time he does it we know that he's planned to do it as scum before.
You're welcome.

So the feingned outrage when I suggested you were lurking.....

Not feigned. I didn't appreciate being told I couldn't be bothered turning up when I really was doing my best.

[Jimmmmm]

It was never the plan for me to lurk.

[EFHW]

So we were right about Robz trying to get vigged - he chose suicidal.

[Jimmmmm]

That's basically the case in hiI pointed  it up your misread : off wagon/MIA st critical times,.and making really scummy cases on me. I bekeive both you and seversl others had good cas on him prior to the robz vote.  But I need to read back again.

I actually genuinely disagree with this case. I was off the wagon because you jumped on before I had a chance to do it in a Towny fashion. I was offline at critical times because I was working and I had no way around that. And I do believe in my case on. I was quite ready to go for EFHW and shraeye, but your wagon analysis after derphammering actually seemed really scummy to me.

That is only true if you actually think I was talking about day 2 but when I called you out on that, you never backed down and continued to use that as an argument against me even when I pointed out your misread .  Probably if shy would have reread that section he would have seen your false argument and how you bussed it even after I clarified.

Okay, I'm pulling up the quote to work this out, because I still think you were talking about Day 2.

We need a list of who was on which wagons when they went down. I think given what happened st the last deadline we should know Me,Mai and Shyrae are in the clear. (Mai because of uncontested fool claim).that lesves jimm and efhw.  Efhw sas on robz.  So i think jimmm is out best bet
vote:jimmmm

Okay, so "We need a list of who was on which wagons when they went down." That's talking about both days. And the obvious one to talk about is the one that just happened at hit scum right?
"I think given what happened st the last deadline we should know Me,Mai and Shyrae are in the clear. (Mai because of uncontested fool claim)." Okay, I guess that's talking about Day 1.
"that lesves jimm and efhw.  Efhw sas on robz.  So i think jimmm is out best bet" Unless I'm mistaken you're separating EFHW and me by who was on the Robz lynch. You ended up voting for me because I wasn't on the Robz lynch, right? But you prevented me from being on the Robz lynch by jumping on before I could.

That is not the argument you kept making in the game. And your repeatedly calling me scummy from this exchsnge had people doubting me.  It was s wonderfully scummy tactic. I just can't believe Shyrae didn't see through it. Since it was basically the crux of your case against me....disappointed really

I think we're misunderstanding each other somehow. I thought and still think it was a solid case.

[Jimmmmm]

I think in order for me to play another Blitz game any time soon it'd have to be at a very convenient time and I'd have to know exactly when it was going to be before signing up.

[Jimmmmm]

Interesting that yuma named me as scum because he disagreed with my shraeye/Robz thing. But I wasn't actually trying to set up a shraeye lynch. I was trying to generate discussion and get people's thoughts on an interaction. I guess I didn't want people to assume that shraeye was Town after Robz' lynch, but I mostly just wanted to talk about it and see what people thought. Not sure how I could have done it differently.

[Jimmmmm]

So we were right about Robz trying to get vigged - he chose suicidal.

I could be wrong, but I don't think he was trying to be vigged. I think he was just trying to be Unhelpful Town Robz.

[Robz888]

Great job, Jimm! You really carried us.

I wasn't trying to get vigged, I just thought acting crazy was my best way to look town. It worked for a little bit, I think, but overall, failed.

I do think that in a Blitz game, scum will try to use VLA to their advantage in small ways--this does happen. But no, it didn't make him obvscum. That was just hyperbole that I hoped would make you think I was town.

I was also deliberately condescending and a tad mean. I didn't mean any of it and wasn't remotely upset! It was all for show.

[shraeye]

I think in order for me to play another Blitz game any time soon it'd have to be at a very convenient time and I'd have to know exactly when it was going to be before signing up.

I actually think your participation level was just great.  A blitz game should almost always be done somewhere areound 20 pages, and this one lasted the full time.

[Jimmmmm]

Hmm, thanks. I guess I just had fairly long unavoidable patches where I couldn't be around. And don't feel bad about lynching spirit. I'm pretty sure I would have lynched him if I was Town. Suddenly joining the EFHW lynch and then calling me probTown but trusting you more were pretty good grounds for a lynch.

spirit, can I suggest trying to make your posts clearer with less typos? It goes a long way towards helping people understand you.

[Jimmmmm]

Robz, did you agree with my decision to kill mcmc before mail-mi, or would you have stuck with mail-mi?

[Jimmmmm]

Shraeye said its spiritbears lets do this! Jimm without hesitation happily helped shraeye with this. Then once spiritbears was dead he placed a bomb in shraeyes back pocket and with a smile on his face walked away as shraeye was blown into a million pieces. A small chunk of shraeye hit jimmm in the back as he was walking away he quickly brushed it off of himself and continued walking as a grin creeped across his face.

GAME OVER, WITCHES WIN

[mail-mi]

gg jimmmmm I had my reads all wrong on you.

[Robz888]

Robz, did you agree with my decision to kill mcmc before mail-mi, or would you have stuck with mail-mi?

No, I think your decision was correct. Keeping mcmc alive was only important if I was still alive.

[mcmcsalot]

Robz, did you agree with my decision to kill mcmc before mail-mi, or would you have stuck with mail-mi?

No, I think your decision was correct. Keeping mcmc alive was only important if I was still alive.

Why is this?

[Robz888]

Robz, did you agree with my decision to kill mcmc before mail-mi, or would you have stuck with mail-mi?

No, I think your decision was correct. Keeping mcmc alive was only important if I was still alive.

Why is this?

I thought I could work you better than mail mi.