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[Insomniac]

BTW Robz congrats on doing an MXII. Hyper active scum.

[jotheonah]

Believe it or not, Munch, that wasn't a conscious choice. Galz gave me a big opening to turn him around away from RObz and I took it (even though I thought it might be a trap). Once I had him back on Munch and everyone had chimed in that they were OK with it, there wasn't anything for it but to nudge it along. The fact that you had gone V/LA didn't even occur to me.

[Insomniac]

(And obviously congrats jo for replicating your town meta so well)

[jotheonah]

(And obviously congrats jo for replicating your town meta so well)

Thanks! I thought invoking MII was a nice touch!

[jotheonah]

ok, I seriously have work to do. but this was great fun. Thanks for twisting my arm into playing, ash.

[Robz888]

BTW Robz congrats on doing an MXII. Hyper active scum.

Thank you. I had to give it a try. I think the timing of the wrapup of Pokemafia probably helped me, with you and Eevee being my scumbuddies, and me being revealed as lurking scum there.

[TheMunch]

Also I was thinking this morning while I was getting read to leave, it was a TERRIBLE idea to talk about the scum hammering thing early on.  Scum is ONLY scared if they are hammering other scum so it helps us catch people that way but really all it does is make town terrified NOT to hammer for fear of looking really bad.

[Insomniac]

ok, I seriously have work to do. but this was great fun. Thanks for twisting my arm into playing, ash.

Twist twist go play XI

[jotheonah]

ok, I seriously have work to do. but this was great fun. Thanks for twisting my arm into playing, ash.

Twist twist go play XI

No blitz is the worst for my work productivity. THE WORST.

[TheMunch]

ok, I seriously have work to do. but this was great fun. Thanks for twisting my arm into playing, ash.

Twist twist go play XI

Is it a normal setup?

[Insomniac]

ok, I seriously have work to do. but this was great fun. Thanks for twisting my arm into playing, ash.

Twist twist go play XI

Is it a normal setup?

What's a normal setup? I mean there is something that hasn't been in a blitz game to date, and two completely new PR's that have been seen by a forum game yet.

[TheMunch]

Hmm.  Maybe if you need another let me know.

@Galz:  Thinking back I wasn't actually trying to sway you with an emotional appeal like you did D1.  I mean, at the time I thought you were conf!scum.  I thought all of that emotion was totally contrived.  I really did think you were a manipulative bastard for most of the game!  But yeah not an emotional ploy.  I really did think that the best way for town to win was for me to die.  Obv if I got lynched we lost (but what scum WOULDN'T say that... Even Robz said it RIGHT AFTER he called you out for being swayed by that argument) so I needed to be flipped via venge kill.  Town needed to know I was town to make the right choices.

Also a lot of people, myself included, need to reevaluate their scumtells...

[jotheonah]

Galz, I did NOT actually think you were a manipulative bastard, but I was damned if I was going to let the town have a second IC if I could help it.

[jotheonah]

Also, if you read the scum QT, you;ll see Robz and I were both legitimately scared of losing D2 once we thought about who we were up against. It was by no means a slam dunk.

[Insomniac]

"Also Insom calling jo town. Jo PM'ed me about it, is convinced Insom will hate him forever."

False I do not hate you Jo I respect your solid play

[TheMunch]

I am sad that I called Joth but had literally 0 evidence for it.  I was telling the truth 100% that all the posts that made me question Joth and develop scum reads on him were the EXACT SAME that everyone used to say, "oh yeah, thats town!joth".  Meta arguments are terrible.  I for one will try to never use them again and call out anyone who does!

[Ozle]

Haha, town got played!

[jotheonah]

The thing is, TheMunch, I don't know if you've seen all the other times I tried and failed to mimic my town meta. Switch, for instance.

[TheMunch]

The thing is, TheMunch, I don't know if you've seen all the other times I tried and failed to mimic my town meta. Switch, for instance.

I only figured you out AFTER you fake claimed, FWIW.  Literally I dont think I had a scum read on you.  Then I hammered you.  Fun game.

[jotheonah]

WOrst fakeclaim. IIRC, I claimed to have investigated someone who was not even playing at that time.

[Insomniac]

WOrst fakeclaim. IIRC, I claimed to have investigated someone who was not even playing at that time.

You claimed doc

[TheMunch]

Shraeye is right about me in the QT.  I am very slow to change my reads.  But I do regret not being more vocal day 1.  I was right after all.  But I hate how being right about anything is twisted into being a scum trait nowadays.  Like yes, if I was scum, I can always guarantee that I am right about my buddy and who town is.  But I think the level of conspiracy theory elaborate scheme posts needs to get toned way down.  Shraeye can tell you, I'm pretty sure every one of my conspiracy theories I've ever had has been wrong.  I'm glad mcmc wasn't scum for that very reason; it helps me down the path of: conspiracy theories are bad, simple explanations are much much better.

[Insomniac]

(and to have docced Volt night 1 who subbed in for grujah day 2)

[TheMunch]

WOrst fakeclaim. IIRC, I claimed to have investigated someone who was not even playing at that time.

You claimed doc

Yeah and I was the doc hehehe.

[Insomniac]

An aside. At the beginning of day 1 I asked how people felt about Eevee's post with the intent of looking for a certain answer I expected to come from scum. Two people answered the way I expected scum to, Galzria and.......Joth. I persecuted Galz while leaving Joth completely alone.