Posts that I find suspicious from Cuzz:
Already referenced:
@Volt, I'd probably be just as happy with my vote on Archetype. For some reason he's seemed a bit more visible to me than ashersky, but I just rechecked Insomniac's count and he really only has one more post than ashersky.
followed by his change of mind
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Anyway, unvote. Ashersky is here and participating, and I didn't consider the opposite-hemisphere issue. If we're gonna have someone at L-2 for lurking it probably shouldn't be him right now.
Vote: jotheonah
he votes for jot... for lurking? why not have ashersky at L-2? Just because he is participating doesnt' mean anything, what is the context of his posts?
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Eevee shows up in somewhat scummy 4th place, and makes the awful "enough pressure votes" comment. Eevee has defended this as simply bad town play, but still something has seemed off to me about him this game. {snip} With the exception of Volt, I could honestly see any one of them as scum, though I think Insomniac and Eevee look worst here, followed by Robz. Based on this, and the change in attitude as well, I'll Vote: Eevee.
My vote on joth is downgraded to a FoS but I have not taken my eye off lurkers, and I do want to hear more from him (though I know he has RL reasons).
changes his vote to Eevee for the Grujah wagon
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But yeah, I'd be ok with lynching plenty of people today. Getting slightly scummy vibes from (in no particular order):
Robz (though not as strong as others seem to be; have to reread),
ashersky (though he always seems kinda like this even as town),
Insomniac (due to Grujah wagon nonsense),
Frisk (ditto), and
joth (lurking, though not sure about lynching a chicken).
Maintains that he is willing to lynch joth and continues to find him scummy
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But he never actually gets around to voting for him... I don't know about this... Does it seem scummy to not vote for someone who you had a previous scum read on him once he gets a wagon on him or does it seem town to reanalyze someone you had a scum read on once he has a wagon on him...
I don't disagree that jo has been acting suspiciously even before the curse, but how exactly does "pressure" work against someone who can hardly talk?
So you want to vote for jo, but don't want to encourage his lynch? And you're trying to get more content out of him despite it being really tough for him to express any content at the moment?
I really don't understand self-votes. I can't fathom why a townie would do this, but every time I've seen it happen, it actually has turned out to be a townie.
I won't change my vote on Cuzz... yet at least, I need to think through his reaction to jot... and go back and look at eevee, archetype and grujah
Let's defend Cuzz, because yuma likes to tunnel him! (kinda drunk, sorry)
The Archetype thing that you voted for me for in the first place, I kinda already explained. I guess I fell into Volt's "trap," in that I thought he was saying Archetype was just as scummy as ashersky, and I meant my response as kinda like "umm, ok I guess maybe?" I was just trying to be agreeable, which was stupid and lazy. But I soon corrected myself, because it's true that Archetype had been more full of content (not sure that that holds anymore though).
I unvoted ashersky because he unlurked, and I decided living on the other side of the world might reasonably explain his behavior at the time. Now I should clarify something here: we can't let scum get away with lurking, gathering votes, then unlurking, and having everyone clear them, rinse and repeat. But I think scum lurking is more of a long-term behavior, and ashersky never slipped back into lurkiness since then. Grujah in MXII lurked, came back briefly, lurked more, claimed, lurked more, etc. etc. etc. Ashersky is not cleared by any means, but not my top scumread.
The joth thing I'm torn on. Him too I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt with RL things, but he was very quiet, and then he decided he had time to mod a new game, so idk what to think about that. I just wish he wasn't cursed so I could feel better about my read on him. I can't get a read on a chicken. BTW, some of those comments you quoted me were supposed to be prodding Insomniac about his votes on joth, not actually defending joth. But you quote me saying a lot of things without commentary so I dunno if you're just trying to summarize things I've said or make an actual argument.
But I really don't like your accusation that I'm scummy for not voting for everyone I said might be scum. I listed six people. I have one vote.
We can't no-lynch though.
Joth, answer this: are you sincerely voting for Voltgloss in that last post?
I'm confused because 4 chickens was supposed to introduce a "would lynch" list, no? I'm not sure what 4 chickens followed by 7 chickens is.