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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1600 on: October 16, 2012, 03:31:46 pm »

List of Stupid Play from Those Who Know (A Lot) Better:

Jotheonah: Pushed for O lynch. Peddled O-Robz theory. Liked every lynch except sparky. Proposed massclaim.
Frisk: Lurked. Defended Grujah, the idiot second doctor claim. Pushed mass claim.
Me: Tunneled Jo. Knew tracking would be deceptive; was deceived. Succumbed to Insomniac buddying.

I'll add one for you - pushing insomniac to vote for theorel!

It made NO SENSE for them not to vote for each other. Theorel not immediately voting for Insomniac and instead saying, "I could say insomniac is scum all day, but we need to look at blah blah blah.." looked sooo fake to me.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1601 on: October 16, 2012, 03:32:09 pm »

List of Stupid Play from Those Who Know (A Lot) Better:

Jotheonah: Pushed for O lynch. Peddled O-Robz theory. Liked every lynch except sparky. Proposed massclaim.
Frisk: Lurked. Defended Grujah, the idiot second doctor claim. Pushed mass claim.
Me: Tunneled Jo. Knew tracking would be deceptive; was deceived. Succumbed to Insomniac buddying.

I'll add one for you - pushing insomniac to vote for theorel!

It made NO SENSE for them not to vote for each other. Theorel not immediately voting for Insomniac and instead saying, "I could say insomniac is scum all day, but we need to look at blah blah blah.." looked sooo fake to me.

Serial killer possibility.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1602 on: October 16, 2012, 03:32:43 pm »

I still can't believe you guys didn't give Grujah and Cuzz more shit for "doctoring" me.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1603 on: October 16, 2012, 03:32:57 pm »

List of Stupid Play from Those Who Know (A Lot) Better:

Jotheonah: Pushed for O lynch. Peddled O-Robz theory. Liked every lynch except sparky. Proposed massclaim.
Frisk: Lurked. Defended Grujah, the idiot second doctor claim. Pushed mass claim.
Me: Tunneled Jo. Knew tracking would be deceptive; was deceived. Succumbed to Insomniac buddying.

I'll add one for you - pushing insomniac to vote for theorel!

It made NO SENSE for them not to vote for each other. Theorel not immediately voting for Insomniac and instead saying, "I could say insomniac is scum all day, but we need to look at blah blah blah.." looked sooo fake to me.

Serial killer possibility.

There was no believable SK possibility anymore. If there was SK, despite three straight nights of know unnacoutned deaths, whatever, we lose. That was the only rational way to approach it.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1604 on: October 16, 2012, 03:33:16 pm »

List of Stupid Play from Those Who Know (A Lot) Better:

Jotheonah: Pushed for O lynch. Peddled O-Robz theory. Liked every lynch except sparky. Proposed massclaim.
Frisk: Lurked. Defended Grujah, the idiot second doctor claim. Pushed mass claim.
Me: Tunneled Jo. Knew tracking would be deceptive; was deceived. Succumbed to Insomniac buddying.

I'll add one for you - pushing insomniac to vote for theorel!

It made NO SENSE for them not to vote for each other. Theorel not immediately voting for Insomniac and instead saying, "I could say insomniac is scum all day, but we need to look at blah blah blah.." looked sooo fake to me.

Serial killer possibility.

Was soooooooooo slim. I did like however that people kept saying I was SK or town and not mafia.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (DAY 3 IS UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1605 on: October 16, 2012, 03:33:36 pm »

Sadly, Robz, the below post is where you break your streak of "when I'm REALLY SURE of something I'm always right":

Sparky reappears from a long VLA, says he disbelieves Grujah's claim over Cuzz's, votes for Grujah.

Grujah is NOT mafia. Sparky wouldn't have done that if they were together.

PPE:  14 new replies.  You crazies.  ;D
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1606 on: October 16, 2012, 03:33:38 pm »

Grujah - was the doctor claim intentional?  Ie - did you realize that cuzz had already claimed?  Was it designed to draw out the JK?

It was intentional as I breadcrumbed it post #1. But I didn't know that Cuzz claimed, I only read it after my claim. I got sooo lucky that there actually was JK.

I was really hoping it was advanced mafia play designed to either throw yourself away or fish out the JK.

It's kinda like those Drunk-Kung-Fu style. I get drunk and do expert stuff.

Also, I've already said this, but this "borrowed time" principled rocked hard! We had time pressure, but it was never as bad as regular time pressure.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1607 on: October 16, 2012, 03:33:54 pm »

Well played mafia. Glad to see other people blunder end games as town too!

I appreciate the effort night 1, Cuzz!
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (DAY 3 IS UNDERWAY)
« Reply #1608 on: October 16, 2012, 03:34:48 pm »

Sadly, Robz, the below post is where you break your streak of "when I'm REALLY SURE of something I'm always right":

Sparky reappears from a long VLA, says he disbelieves Grujah's claim over Cuzz's, votes for Grujah.

Grujah is NOT mafia. Sparky wouldn't have done that if they were together.

PPE:  14 new replies.  You crazies.  ;D

Yeah, sparky played really well on Day 1, I think.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1609 on: October 16, 2012, 03:37:03 pm »

"Insom mulling a no-kill night is very interesting."

I really did think hard about no-kill, I think it would have potentially ended the same.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1610 on: October 16, 2012, 03:37:12 pm »

I still can't believe you guys didn't give Grujah and Cuzz more shit for "doctoring" me.

This this this.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1611 on: October 16, 2012, 03:38:39 pm »

Also, I've already said this, but this "borrowed time" principled rocked hard! We had time pressure, but it was never as bad as regular time pressure.

Agreed, I like the "bankable time" approach very much.  How did the rest of you feel about it?

And thanks to you all for coming along this wild ride.  I've enjoyed running it very much. 

And maybe, one day, I'll mod a non-Bastard game that doesn't end in a Mafia win.  ;D
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1612 on: October 16, 2012, 03:40:21 pm »

I still can't believe you guys didn't give Grujah and Cuzz more shit for "doctoring" me.

This this this.

I knew Cuzz was write when he said you were strongmanned...so I wasn't going to push that avenue.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1613 on: October 16, 2012, 03:41:45 pm »

*right

don't know what I was thinking of.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1614 on: October 16, 2012, 03:43:08 pm »

Frisk from the spec QT: "If PPS early claimed VT in the next game I played with him, i'd lynch him again and be happy about it."

Yes, thank you.
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« Reply #1615 on: October 16, 2012, 03:43:52 pm »

Frisk from the spec QT: "If PPS early claimed VT in the next game I played with him, i'd lynch him again and be happy about it."

Yes, thank you.

Knew he was town but even if I didn't still wouldn't push for that lynch to easy for scum to get on that wagon.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1616 on: October 16, 2012, 03:45:02 pm »

Frisk from the spec QT: "If PPS early claimed VT in the next game I played with him, i'd lynch him again and be happy about it."

Yes, thank you.

Knew he was town but even if I didn't still wouldn't push for that lynch to easy for scum to get on that wagon.

It's not about that game - but all future games.
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1617 on: October 16, 2012, 03:48:04 pm »

From the spec QT, Galzria talking about me seeming scummy:

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So is Robz, but in a town Robz way.

"Grujah, you've contributed nothing and your opinions are wrong, now will you please do as I say and hammer"

I mean, really?

That should be a clear indicator of my towniness, yeah. I just wouldn't dare to say something like that as scum. Of course now that I've said this, I may have to try..
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1618 on: October 16, 2012, 03:48:38 pm »

Frisk from the spec QT: "If PPS early claimed VT in the next game I played with him, i'd lynch him again and be happy about it."

Yes, thank you.
And I would argue against it again.  :)

Forgot to say, thanks for modding Volt! Your games are always awesome.
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« Reply #1619 on: October 16, 2012, 03:49:59 pm »

Frisk from the spec QT: "If PPS early claimed VT in the next game I played with him, i'd lynch him again and be happy about it."

Yes, thank you.

Knew he was town but even if I didn't still wouldn't push for that lynch to easy for scum to get on that wagon.

It's not about that game - but all future games.

That's a load no matter my alignment I play to win the current game
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« Reply #1620 on: October 16, 2012, 03:52:21 pm »

It's a policy lynch for a reason!
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« Reply #1621 on: October 16, 2012, 03:52:59 pm »

It's a policy lynch for a reason!

Becuse it's bad and you should feel bad!
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« Reply #1622 on: October 16, 2012, 03:53:37 pm »

Mod QT gems:
Fastest "game start" to "Robz snaps" time ever.
Hah!

'This is where Grujah's "I won't be forceclaimed" meta is really liable to bite him in the ass. Should be interesting to see.'
They should have pushed me for this. I wouldn't have had claimed as real Doc.

"Insomniac is bussing like mad! "
I hated him when he both voted me, and when he stole my sparky hammer.

"I have to laugh every time I read CF's "scum Grujah wouldn't be so stupid to fakeclaim doctor" argument. I mean, I get why CF thinks that. AND YET~!..."
Yeah, not the smartest role to breadcrumb and stick with.

"When scumRobz is pressured, he remains cool, calm, and collected.
When townRobz is pressured, he goes haywire.

This is a pretty consistent Robz meta."
Thanks.

'if O hammers Robz now, he earns a new moniker: "the Derphammer"'
Hah!

'IF Grujah busses Robz/Jo and kills Jo, THEN Insom will roleblock CF. ELSE, Insom will strongman-kill CF.'
I sent "Buss Cuzz and jo" that night. Lol. Would end up in Robz pushing jo and them both dying! nice.

'Cuzz is going for the world record at "Doctoring people during the night and watching them die anyway."'
Hah!

'lol at jo, frantic to stay alive (as town), asking two other town players if they will vote OTHER town players instead of him'
Laughed hard.

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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1623 on: October 16, 2012, 03:53:58 pm »

Really fun game to watch from a mod perspective, as I said in the Mod QT here are my two take aways from the game.

"1. lynch lurkers as town 2. buss hard beginning day 1 as mafia."
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Re: Mafia XII: A Fistful of Waffles! (THE GAME IS OVER: MAFIA WINS!!)
« Reply #1624 on: October 16, 2012, 03:57:44 pm »

Really fun game to watch from a mod perspective, as I said in the Mod QT here are my two take aways from the game.

"1. lynch lurkers as town 2. buss hard beginning day 1 as mafia."

Pretty much, yeah.

I just didn't think sparky would have the foresight to try and bus Grujah specifically when he did it, because this is only sparky's second game. But as I've said, he improved dramatically since MIX (though still under-posted!).
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