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[Robz888]

So, as we pass the midnight hour here in my location on the globe, and I prepare to turn in for the night, I leave you with a last newbie question: can you run down the best-case scenarios for the town?  I'm guessing it is:

Day 1: Lynch Mafia RoleCop
Night 1: Mafia Goon kills VT
Day 2: Lynch Mafia Goon

Am I missing anything on goals?

Night 1 the remaining mafia or his target is jailkept, or the target is doctored.

But uhm.. why are you asking this?

Curiosity.  Robz was complaining that there'd been no success on Day 1 to date.  I was thinking through the ideal.

I have also seen in other threads the lynch/no lynch argument for Day 1.  Any thoughts there?

My thought is: Let's not have the argument again. There is no definitive answer. And the argument doesn't get us anywhere. I know this from experience.

[Captain_Frisk]

So, as we pass the midnight hour here in my location on the globe, and I prepare to turn in for the night, I leave you with a last newbie question: can you run down the best-case scenarios for the town?  I'm guessing it is:

Day 1: Lynch Mafia RoleCop
Night 1: Mafia Goon kills VT
Day 2: Lynch Mafia Goon

Am I missing anything on goals?

Night 1 the remaining mafia or his target is jailkept, or the target is doctored.

But uhm.. why are you asking this?

Curiosity.  Robz was complaining that there'd been no success on Day 1 to date.  I was thinking through the ideal.

I have also seen in other threads the lynch/no lynch argument for Day 1.  Any thoughts there?

It's a very bad idea - because we start day 2 with no more information than we have now, but with 1 less townie.  There's a minor argument that it might be beneficial if you have a cop - who will then get some an extra investigation if you no lynch twice.

I can't talk about other games where no lynches happened - because they are on going.

[Cuzz]

What's the deal with the quicktopic thing? Are active players allowed to look at what people are saying there?

[yuma]

What's the deal with the quicktopic thing? Are active players allowed to look at what people are saying there?

No. Sorry I should have specified. Only spectators and dead players are allowed.in fact I should not have put it up. Sorry I will need to make another one that people can pm me asking for

[Jorbles]

Yeah, aren't QTs usually for people to talk about the game after they're out? I'm not sure how having a public QT open at the front of the thread will affect the game, but isn't it normally hidden from active players?

ninja'd by mod

[Morgrim7]

Hi, guys, this is Morgrim. I am showing up to post a vote, and if you make a wagon on me I will selfhammer and turn up VT. BTW, I am a VT.
Vote: Robz888

this is newbie mafia, right?

[Cuzz]

What's the deal with the quicktopic thing? Are active players allowed to look at what people are saying there?

No. Sorry I should have specified. Only spectators and dead players are allowed.in fact I should not have put it up. Sorry I will need to make another one that people can pm me asking for

Ok. Full disclosure: I did see the first 3 posts on there. Maybe the mods should let everyone see? Not sure if it really matters though.

[Robz888]

Hi, guys, this is Morgrim. I am showing up to post a vote, and if you make a wagon on me I will selfhammer and turn up VT. BTW, I am a VT.
Vote: Robz888

this is newbie mafia, right?

Oh Jesus Christ, who let Morgrim into this game? Ugh. And stop voting for me, people. RVS is over!

Seriously though, with Morgrim in the game it's dangerous putting anybody to L-1 (that means, one vote short of lynch). Because Morgrim will swoop in and hammer. Is this anti-town? Hell yes. Does this mean Morgrim is mafia? Well, it hasn't in any game so far.

Unfortunately, there exists such a thing as the Morgrim Insanity Defense, which is this: "He's not mafia, he's just being Morgrim." BEcause Morgrim is irrational, crazy, and anti-town--even when he's town.

[Eevee]

Unvote, didn't realize we had a morgrim in the house. I'm so happy we do!

Geolib, why did you call O out for lurking, when Morgrim had zero posts too? (I personally do not think calling either out was really necessary yet, but you know.)

[Voltgloss]

wrong thread Eev

[Voltgloss]

I'm an idiot and I'm the one in the wrong thread.  Carry on.

[Captain_Frisk]

wrong thread Eev

I'm an idiot and I'm the one in the wrong thread.  Carry on.

And your shame is now recorded for eternity.

[yuma]

What's the deal with the quicktopic thing? Are active players allowed to look at what people are saying there?

No. Sorry I should have specified. Only spectators and dead players are allowed.in fact I should not have put it up. Sorry I will need to make another one that people can pm me asking for

Ok. Full disclosure: I did see the first 3 posts on there. Maybe the mods should let everyone see? Not sure if it really matters though.

Thanks... All it contained was Galz's predictions... nothing too big...

[Jorbles]

Geolib, why did you call O out for lurking, when Morgrim had zero posts too? (I personally do not think calling either out was really necessary yet, but you know.)

Well not to put words in Geolib's mouth, but Morgrim did post once right after the game start, but O still hasn't checked in after his confirm. Actually here's a newb strategy question, should I be putting explanations for someone else forward (in case they don't think of them) or should I keep quiet so we can evaluate their response?

[Eevee]

Geolib, why did you call O out for lurking, when Morgrim had zero posts too? (I personally do not think calling either out was really necessary yet, but you know.)

Well not to put words in Geolib's mouth, but Morgrim did post once right after the game start, but O still hasn't checked in after his confirm. Actually here's a newb strategy question, should I be putting explanations for someone else forward (in case they don't think of them) or should I keep quiet so we can evaluate their response?

I think for the most part, when in doubt it's always better to post than it is not to post.

And actually checking in (thus realizing the game has started) and then not posting is infinitely scummier than not realizing the has even started. You know, the title got changed just recently and everything. Just refusing to come here when you know the game has already be the stupidest mafia ploy ever. Posting the bare minimum on the other hand..

[GeoLib]

Geolib, why did you call O out for lurking, when Morgrim had zero posts too? (I personally do not think calling either out was really necessary yet, but you know.)

Well Morgrim did actually post something, although it wasn't terribly helpful:

Robz, what would have been your least favorite role to receive in this game?

Easy. Vanilla Townie. You?

grmph....grrr... *frown*

But mostly I was still RVSing (does that work?). Sort of prodding him to post. I think it's far more likely that he's asleep or hasn't noticed that the game started. Hence the somewhat facetious

What does he have real life or something?

Does bolding my name count as voting, or was that just to get my attention?

[GeoLib]

Oh, also, is there a way to just see posts from a certain person?

[Eevee]

Just to get your attention, it's not a vote unless it's in the correct form (Vote: Eevee for example).

Viewing the thread in print mode and searching for the isotropic nickname of the desired person will show you all the posts he has made in this thread.

[GeoLib]

Ok. So it's still just ctrl+F? The problem is when people use the name in their posts. Oh well. Thanks.

[Eevee]

Ok. So it's still just ctrl+F? The problem is when people use the name in their posts. Oh well. Thanks.

Thats why you use the isotropic name. No one uses that one. (I now see it is the same for you for example, that is unfortunate. I don't think anyone has presented a better way yet.)

[Cuzz]

Just to get your attention, it's not a vote unless it's in the correct form (Vote: Eevee for example).

Viewing the thread in print mode and searching for the isotropic nickname of the desired person will show you all the posts he has made in this thread.

Did you just technically vote for yourself? What's the strategy here?

[yuma]

Ok. So it's still just ctrl+F? The problem is when people use the name in their posts. Oh well. Thanks.

Thats why you use the isotropic name. No one uses that one. (I now see it is the same for you for example, that is unfortunate. I don't think anyone has presented a better way yet.)

Within the print screen I search "post by: ____" this brings up posts only by that person.

[GeoLib]

Ok. So it's still just ctrl+F? The problem is when people use the name in their posts. Oh well. Thanks.

Thats why you use the isotropic name. No one uses that one. (I now see it is the same for you for example, that is unfortunate. I don't think anyone has presented a better way yet.)

Is print mode something other than clicking the "print" button next to "Send this Topic" and "Mark Unread"? Because if not then the isotropic usernames don't show up when I click that. I think I can just click all though which does still show the isotropic usernames.

Ah. Yuma just came up with the best way I think. Thanks!

[yuma]

Everyone gathered around the table was deep in shock...

Morgrim was mumbling incoherently, C-Frisk and GeoLib were frantically trying to dry off the Dominion cards with their breathe (it didn't work very well). Jorbles and O had fallen fast asleep. Asherkey was curled up in a ball in the corner crying while Eevee and Cuzz couldn't stop looking at Donald's dead face. Robz was probably the worst off having found the hard liquor. But we won't go into details...

Vote Count 1-2

Robz888 (3): asherkey, Captain_Frisk, Morgrim7
O (2): Jorbles, GeoLib

Not voting (4): Eevee, Cuzz, Robz888, O

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Lynch deadline: Monday, August 27, at noon forum time (EDT)

[Eevee]

I dont even have to Unvote apparently

Robz having three RVS-esque votes him seems excessive/not very fair. Still 6 days to the deadline, and O hasnt even found his way here yet! No new votes on him before we actually decide we really want to lynch him, please. I say this as the guy who started the wagon!