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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 2, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1700 on: September 13, 2012, 10:41:15 am »

(I'm just putting this here for my own reference as I work on more helpful posts, it's madness trying to go through 68 pages when I wasn't in the game for most of them)

1. eHalc, R2-D2, crushed by rocks Day 2
2. theorel
3. Voltaire
4. pingpongsam, Constable Odo, phasered Day 1
5. DSell
6. ftl, Senator Palpatine, shot Night 4 (M)
7. Archetype, Tweedle-Dee, knifed Night 4
8. Morgrim7, Katniss Everdeen, lynched Day 2
9. O
10. cayvie
11. Galzria, Fluttershy, lynched Day 4
12. insomniac
13. Watno, Zaphod Beeblebrox, shot and stabbed Night 2
14. Robz888
15. ashersky, Tweedle-Dum, suicided Night 4
16. Cuzz, Jigglypuff, stabbed Night 4 (M-A)
17. Axxle, Severus Snape, arrowed and shot Night 1
18. Eevee, the Scarecrow of Oz, shot Night 3

D1 Vote:
cayvie (2): Archetype, ashersky
Morgrim7 (1): Morgrim7
pingpongsam (10): Galzria, Voltaire, Robz888, Insomniac, Watno, Cuzz, theorel, Axxle, pingpongsam, Dsell
ftl (2): cayvie, Eevee
Dsell (1): ftl
Galzria (1):  O
No Lynch (1): eHalcyon
Not voting {0}

D2 Vote
Dsell(1): Cuzz
Watno(2): Archetype, ashersky
Morgrim7(7): Galzria, Robz888, Insomniac, Dsell, Eevee, cayvie, theorel
cayvie(1): O
not voting(4): Voltaire, Morgrim7, ftl, Watno

D3 Vote
ugh there was no official votecount but it was cancelled and bussed anyway

D4 Vote
Insomniac(6):  Robz888, Galzria, Insomniac, ftl, cayvie, Cuzz
not voting(6):  Voltaire, Archetype, O, ashersky, Dsell, theorel

(so I'll state the obvious: looks like the paired Archetype/ashersky could only vote together)
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 2, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1701 on: September 13, 2012, 11:09:48 am »

Here's my best guess as to how the survivors are divvied up into teams:

Insomniac/Voltaire (Cuzz's team)

Robz/theorel (ftl's team)

O = Serial Killer

myself/Dsell (town)
Why pair Robz/theorel and me with Insomniac, cayvie?

(I just worked out why you're town, Cayvie. Very very nice.)
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 2, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1702 on: September 13, 2012, 11:22:33 am »

Can anyone direct me to the post with the most up-to-date universe/role claims? I can't find it.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 2, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1703 on: September 13, 2012, 11:30:21 am »

Post spam!

Unless a serial killer chose not to kill for several nights, isn't it more likely we have an X-shot vigilante on our hands?
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1704 on: September 13, 2012, 01:38:49 pm »

Why are people not voting Robz. His daybussing scum buddy died.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 2, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1705 on: September 13, 2012, 01:47:01 pm »

Post spam!

Unless a serial killer chose not to kill for several nights, isn't it more likely we have an X-shot vigilante on our hands?

My reason for not thinking this is that I believe Morgrim (Katniss) was the vig.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1706 on: September 13, 2012, 02:01:10 pm »

I looked back at day 1 when the FTL bandwagon (Huzzah to me for NOT fingering 2 scum!) was forming, and Captain_Voltaire was NOT very very silent at the end of that day. He DID say anything between when FTL had a bandwagon on him and the hammer.

I've NOT had a pretty null read on Captain_Voltaire through most of the game, and while he's being helpful now, I CAN let that get in the way of finding scum.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1707 on: September 13, 2012, 02:08:16 pm »

I HAVEN'T LOOKED back at day 1 when the FTL bandwagon (Huzzah to me for NOT fingering 2 scum!) was forming, but Captain_Voltaire was NOT very very silent at the end of that day.

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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 2, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1708 on: September 13, 2012, 02:45:35 pm »

Galzria - Fluttershy
Robz - General Iroh
ftl - Samwise Gamgee
cayvie - Ned Flanders
Cuzz - Jigglypuff
Theorel - Snapcaster Mage
O - Donald X Vaccarino
Insomniac - jotheonah
Captain_Frisk - Jubilee
Archetype - The Mad Hatter
Eevee - Scarecrow

Also Watno WAS alive but something redirected a kill to him apparently? So
Watno - Zaphod Beeblebrox


Now to be fair since I am the target of the suspicion I will FULL claim before I am asked to.
I have 1 shot roleblock, this is the mod retconning a mistake by preventing a night action
On even days I can ask the mod a question, he will post the answer to it truthfully and he will mod confirm it. Yes this is where the modfirmed came from, I knew I was town and started to suspect Eevee was yesterday so I asked him if both Eevee and I are town. This resulted in him saying that we were and that there was at least 1 scum left which didn't seem helpful but presumably there was a reason he added it. This is to reflect the fact that jo is the mod so as jotheonah I would know the setup and thus can ask questions about the setup.

I did not talk about the post after it happened because I didn't want to draw the scums attention to my role as it is quite powerful. Now that I have used my roleblock and it is an odd day though my power is NOT that strong anymore.

However the card O gave me is rather strong and if you truly think I'm scum even after considering the above then you should absolutely kill me. I will however put it out there that I will use the ability on the card at night how the town feels best about.

The card is possession. It allows me to pick a player at night and I get to see their hand (I don't understand this part I assume it's their role) and make all decisions for them that they would make during that night phase.

Voltaire, I believe this is NOT a more or less full summary of the claims from our resident NOT scum, Insom.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 2, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1709 on: September 13, 2012, 02:52:00 pm »

Voltaire, I believe this is NOT a more or less full summary of the claims from our resident NOT scum, Insom.
Thank you very much, Dsell.

I looked back at day 1 when the FTL bandwagon (Huzzah to me for NOT fingering 2 scum!) was forming, and Captain_Voltaire was NOT very very silent at the end of that day. He DID say anything between when FTL had a bandwagon on him and the hammer.

I've NOT had a pretty null read on Captain_Voltaire through most of the game, and while he's being helpful now, I CAN let that get in the way of finding scum.
As to your statements, I'm sure you understand that I can't really explain why Captain_Frisk behaved the way he did. I didn't have a particularly scummy read on ftl on D3 (the one day other than D5 I've been able to post! Madness), so I can't really say what I would have done at the time, way back on D1. I should probably re-read the thread myself.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1710 on: September 13, 2012, 04:10:57 pm »

At first glance, it does NOT appear that FTL and Cuzz were from opposing scum factions that both contain "Mafia" in the title, but it could NOT be that that is a diversion and that FTL was somehow bussed or swapped with the actual mafia target. This would mean that the mafia did NOT accidentally shoot one of their own. It is at least a possibility NOT to be considered before we start thinking there there are NOT two scum teams named "The mafia."

As a point of interest, the same colors used in Galz' QT quote are NOT used in the death sequence of FTL and Cuzz. That probably means A LOT.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1711 on: September 13, 2012, 04:45:49 pm »

Let's not forget that I got it confirmed, night 1, that there are at least 4 QT's in this game.

One for each scum team, one for my neighborhood, and one for the Tweedles, perhaps?
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1712 on: September 14, 2012, 01:10:44 am »

Whoa, it is dead in here. You guys have plenty to talk about I'm sure.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1713 on: September 14, 2012, 01:57:53 am »

People I do NOT believe to be town: O, cayvie

People I am NOT fairly suspicious of: Voltaire, Robz (Although I teeend to NOT believe his claim)

NOT obvscum: Insomniac

We canNOT wait until tomorrow to lynch Insom, though.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 2, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1714 on: September 14, 2012, 09:42:00 am »

People I am NOT fairly suspicious of: Voltaire, Robz (Although I teeend to NOT believe his claim)
Let's make this easier.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1715 on: September 14, 2012, 09:43:17 am »

yeah okay everyone's spoken.

vote: robz
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1716 on: September 14, 2012, 10:41:45 am »

Why is it so dead in here?
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1717 on: September 14, 2012, 10:45:14 am »

I dont know what we have to discuss. Insomniac is mafia. I am a survivor, as explained.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1718 on: September 14, 2012, 10:46:27 am »

I dont know what we have to discuss. Insomniac is mafia. I am a survivor, as explained.
I'm just trying to figure out why that means we should leave you alive. What if night kills leave mostly the two mafia teams remaining? Wouldn't you rather help kill town in that situation?
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1719 on: September 14, 2012, 10:49:09 am »

I dont know what we have to discuss. Insomniac is mafia. I am a survivor, as explained.
I'm just trying to figure out why that means we should leave you alive. What if night kills leave mostly the two mafia teams remaining? Wouldn't you rather help kill town in that situation?

Im not sure why you would kill me over a confirmed mafia, but I don't really care that much. If you want to kill me just get on with it.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1720 on: September 14, 2012, 10:55:28 am »

What makes you sure I didn't day bus you? Oh didn't get informed you were day bussed? I guess it's because it wasn't your scum buddy bussing so he couldn't tell you.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1721 on: September 14, 2012, 11:06:23 am »

What makes you sure I didn't day bus you? Oh didn't get informed you were day bussed? I guess it's because it wasn't your scum buddy bussing so he couldn't tell you.

I'm highly confused by this statement...you're accusing Robz of lying because you daybussed him and he doesn't know?  BUT you want us to lynch him...which if he's been daybussed will lynch some other person of your choice?
This is either:
1. NOT evidence that Robz is lying (because you didn't bus him). OR
2. Evidence that we should NOT lynch Robz even though he's lying scum (because you did bus him).

If 1. Then we can still lynch Robz, but I'm slightly more suspicious of it, since known scum is trying to push town in that direction.  Maybe because you're vulnerable to lynch today for some reason?
If 2. we should not lynch Robz because it will just result in a random town-death.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1722 on: September 14, 2012, 11:06:44 am »

What makes you sure I didn't day bus you? Oh didn't get informed you were day bussed? I guess it's because it wasn't your scum buddy bussing so he couldn't tell you.

I'm not just going to repeat myself, I said why already. If you don't believe me, I don't care. It's not like I'm going to survive this madness anyway.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1723 on: September 14, 2012, 11:08:10 am »

Captain_Voltaire is now mod-confirmed town. He is an innocent child. The intro post is being updated to include this information.
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Re: BMV - Truly Bastard Role Madness Mafia - Day 5, PM mod for QT
« Reply #1724 on: September 14, 2012, 11:11:06 am »

Now that that's out there, I am comfortable with Vote: Robz888. Robz is willing to state he wasn't bussed, which is weird, as it seems to be resigning himself to death, but Insom has pulled some weird crap and I'd rather have more information before trying to lynch him again. So that'll be the goal for tomorrow.
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