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[Insomniac]

Ashersky if I have not yet covered the scenario which you consider to be true quote THIS post and ask a question

[Eevee]

Mod: I'd like to use my day-power to rid Ashersky of his post restriction!

I have not been explicitly told I dont have a power like that, and I dont remember anyone trying this yet. Having to decipher what ashersky means is getting distracting.

[eHalcyon]

Ashersky, quote the relevant sentences, bold the relevant modifiers.

I am sure/suspicious that Darth Vader is in this game.

I am sure/suspicious that Darth Vader is scum.

I am sure/suspicious that someone in this game has ominous background music.

I am sure/suspicious that Watno has ominous background music.

I am sure/suspicious that the Imperial March was playing last night.

I am sure/suspicious that Watno is Darth Vader.

I am sure/suspicious that Watno is scum.

[Voltgloss]

* usual disclaimer applies

[Insomniac]

Troll mod Voltgloss gets to reuse same meme twice changing only the name

[ashersky]

Did you guys know that only writing in questions gets really obnoxious?  And did you know that your suggestion of me quoting stuff only works if you are spot on?

So, isn't my vote enough to raise suspicions on Watno to start?  How can I convince you I know my music?  Did you know that the very recognizable song that plays when DV marches is called "The Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme)" and is by John Williams? Do you think I did?

Even though mods can lie, it all fits in flavor, right?  And if a mod didn't make a firm "statement" it might be tough to call it a lie, right?

Can you guess how many posts popped up while I tried to write this?

[ashersky]

Mod: I'd like to use my day-power to rid Ashersky of his post restriction!

I have not been explicitly told I dont have a power like that, and I dont remember anyone trying this yet. Having to decipher what ashersky means is getting distracting.

Eevee, I'm not sure this is better for anyone.
Now the questions are gone, but it isn't more fun.

At least I can say I know it was Vader last night,
And I can confirm he gave me quite a fright.

Whether or not it was Watno creeping around
I guess we can't know until more clues are found.

Still, there was enough there for me to vote Watno.
If there's a reason not to, then someone say so.

[Eevee]

Crap. Sorry ashersky. That will teach me to not try trolling our mod ever again.

[Cuzz]

Does Archetype have to use questions now?

[Voltgloss]

Closest I found to "scumbag mod":

[Insomniac]

Mod: I'd like to use my day-power to rid Ashersky of his post restriction!

I have not been explicitly told I dont have a power like that, and I dont remember anyone trying this yet. Having to decipher what ashersky means is getting distracting.

Eevee, I'm not sure this is better for anyone.
Now the questions are gone, but it isn't more fun.

At least I can say I know it was Vader last night,
And I can confirm he gave me quite a fright.

Whether or not it was Watno creeping around
I guess we can't know until more clues are found.

Still, there was enough there for me to vote Watno.
If there's a reason not to, then someone say so.

Vote: Watno

[cayvie]

Yeah, okay! Enough little bits of evidence are piling up for me to feel comfortable with a vote: Watno.

[Cuzz]

Long post ahead:

I dunno if I'm quite ready to hop on this Watno wagon. Some people seem a little eager to accept ashersky's story as if it directly implicates Watno, when there are still a lot of details missing. I went through and found a brief history of Watno and ashersky:

Here is Watno not wanting to participate in the universe claim, then conceding genre:

I know the mod might be lying, but since he said giving away fluff information in our pms might hurt, i don't see the point in doing that, so I wont give you the answer to my universe and everything, but maybe someone can explain this to me?

Oh, I just saw theorel had already explained his reasoning, I missed that somehow.
So I'll say this much: Genre: Science-Fiction

Watno then calls out a few people for lurking (he calls out me in the post directly following), and votes ashersky based on the quoted post (he actually votes me based on a counting error and then votes ashersky again but I'm condensing):

I looked through the posts again and noticed that the following people havent neither claimed their genre/universe
nor given a reason why they dont, even though they have been posting:
Captain_Frisk, Morgrim7, O, ashersky

Especially, I noticed this:

Is 10 votes a lynch?

And how do you define genre?  Isn't everyone saying fantasy a bit uninformative, since that could mean anything?

And is it geeky to think a buffyverse bastard role mafia game would be awesome?

with no mention of the genre/universeclaim later. This seems to be kinda dodgy to me. vote: ashersky

I'd like to know from all of you why youre ignoring this issue in your posts totally.

Watno then ended up on the pps wagon. Note that he was among the very few who never gave a universe claim on D1.

Meanwhile, ashersky also got away with never giving us a universe claim on D1. This is all he ever said:

Do I really need to genreclaim for anyone to guess?  Does literature count as a genre?

ashersky then put an odd vote on cayvie close to the deadline, which I mentioned I thought was suspicious:

Read through all the ftl posts and while nothing stuck out I can see why some might be uneasy about him. I get a completely neutral read and that troubles me for some reason.

Am I crazy for agreeing?

The deadline is creeping up, isn't it?  Anyone else think Cayvie's successfully ducked attention?  May I add a <b>Vote: Cayvie</b> even if it doesn't get us closer to a lynch?  Will you all be disappointed I didn't jump on a wagon?

I don't think people will be disappointed, but it's a matter of getting 9 people to agree with you in less than 5 hours. But the standard rules apply even under pressure: if you strongly feel that someone is town, don't vote for them.

I think the reason you guys are getting such a neutral read is because his posts are all fluff, there's no real content, just the illusion of content. Trust me, all scum wants/needs to do day one is to just skate through and survive.

Man this reeeeeaaaally makes me want to vote ashersky, since he's been flying under the radar too, and then comes in 5 hours before the deadline to cast a meaningless vote on someone with no chance of being lynched to appear involved. (btw, where's Archetype and Frisk in all this?) I'm not so much disappointed as suspicious, so I'll save a FoS: ashersky for D2.

Jump to today and we have this:

Is anyone Darth Vader?  Does that make sense to anyone?

and

I am not from Star Wars and I am not your father (i.e. Darth Vader)

Then asher votes Watno, gives us cryptic stuff about the Imperial March, others pile on, yada yada yada.


Sorry for the super long post. I'm not sure exactly what to make of all this but I wanted to go back and get this all in one place, and see what others think. I find both of them a bit suspicious overall, especially since neither has given a universe claim.

I'm also really curious about what Watno has to say about these recent accusations.

[eHalcyon]

Did you guys know that only writing in questions gets really obnoxious?  And did you know that your suggestion of me quoting stuff only works if you are spot on?

So, isn't my vote enough to raise suspicions on Watno to start?  How can I convince you I know my music?  Did you know that the very recognizable song that plays when DV marches is called "The Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme)" and is by John Williams? Do you think I did?

Even though mods can lie, it all fits in flavor, right?  And if a mod didn't make a firm "statement" it might be tough to call it a lie, right?

Can you guess how many posts popped up while I tried to write this?

Mod: I'd like to use my day-power to rid Ashersky of his post restriction!

I have not been explicitly told I dont have a power like that, and I dont remember anyone trying this yet. Having to decipher what ashersky means is getting distracting.

Eevee, I'm not sure this is better for anyone.
Now the questions are gone, but it isn't more fun.

At least I can say I know it was Vader last night,
And I can confirm he gave me quite a fright.

Whether or not it was Watno creeping around
I guess we can't know until more clues are found.

Still, there was enough there for me to vote Watno.
If there's a reason not to, then someone say so.

Given your new statements, how was it too difficult to quote and bold to fit?  It looks like it would be the following:

Ashersky, quote the relevant sentences, bold the relevant modifiers.

I am sure/suspicious that Darth Vader is in this game.

I am sure/suspicious that Darth Vader is scum.

I am sure/suspicious that someone in this game has ominous background music.

I am sure/suspicious that Watno has ominous background music.

I am sure/suspicious that the Imperial March was playing last night.

I am sure/suspicious that Watno is Darth Vader.

I am sure/suspicious that Watno is scum.

Is that accurate?  What's wrong with it?

By the way, someone had made a good suggestion earlier on with the questions restriction.  "Did you guys know that [insert statement]?"  Easy.  There are many ways to be clear while phrasing as a question.  Really seems like you were making it more difficult than it had to be.

[Archetype]

I have to post in questions now? Are ashersky and I the only ones that switched?

Does anyone else believe ashersky? Watno, care to defend yourself?

Does ashersky's info seem convincing? I think…yes?

May I Vote: Watno?

[theorel]

Hi, I'm here.  MVIII is more interesting, and smaller.  I was out of town Friday through Monday evening.  I don't have anything to add to the current situation.  Interested in hearing from Watno.

[ashersky]

Ashersky, quote the relevant sentences, bold the relevant modifiers.

I am sure/suspicious that Darth Vader is in this game.

I am sure/suspicious that Darth Vader is scum.

I am sure/suspicious that someone in this game has ominous background music.

I am sure/suspicious that Watno has ominous background music.

I am sure/suspicious that the Imperial March was playing last night.

I am sure/suspicious that Watno is Darth Vader.

I am sure/suspicious that Watno is scum.

Is that accurate?  What's wrong with it?

By the way, someone had made a good suggestion earlier on with the questions restriction.  "Did you guys know that [insert statement]?"  Easy.  There are many ways to be clear while phrasing as a question.  Really seems like you were making it more difficult than it had to be.

In your list above, I would change only the second line,
But even as it stands, I think I can say it's fine.

You make a good point about how I could have worked around the restriction...
Most of those suggestions came in while I was typing in that strict diction...

Then the change to my voice came before I could use them
Thanks to Eevee's attempt to simplify the problem...

I see Archetype is stuck with my style...
Anyone else get to take on that trial?

[eHalcyon]

I have to post in questions now? Are ashersky and I the only ones that switched?

Does anyone else believe ashersky? Watno, care to defend yourself?

Does ashersky's info seem convincing? I think…yes?

May I Vote: Watno?

I am intrigued but not convinced.  Though it is a little confusing due to questions and then rhymes, it sounds like ashersky does not actually know if Watno is the source of the music.  He knows Darth Vader frightened him last night, but it's not linked to Watno.  Or if it is, ash hasn't clarified how.  Best I can tell, Watno's unspecific sci-fi claim is the main link.

Watno could be lying.  Or maybe ash is lying or misinterpreting something.  Or possibly even another ability is interfering, e.g. "You may play music of your choice in the night.  People will hear it if (some sort of trigger)".


By the way, Archetype is showing how easy it is to get around a question restriction.  So a mild FoS: ashersky for being so ambiguous about everything when he really did not need to be.

PPE: ash, how would you change the second line?  You are sure that DV is scum?  If it's purely through flavour, I can see an argument for DV being townie, based on how he died...

(Also, Darth Vader and Donald Vaccarino share initials.  Relevant to conspiracies?!)

[jotheonah]

Back-up mods, will one of you do a vote count? I feel like we should have one, but I'm lazy and a little drunk. (And no town, that doesn't mean I'll answer set-up questions, don't even try.)

[Voltgloss]

Vote Count 3.3

eHalcyon (2): Galzria, O
Watno (5): ashersky, Eevee, Insomniac, cayvie, Archetype

Not Voting (9): eHalcyon, Robz888, Cuzz, Watno, Captain_Frisk, Dsell, theorel, Morgrim7, ftl

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch. Deadline is September 7th at 3 p.m. forum time. 2 and a half Days.

[ftl]

quick everyone ask joth a question! Joth you said you won't answer town questions but what about scum?

Rereading last few pages. Summary: ash claims rolecop/cop/flavorcop/investigator and points at Watno. Vote: Watno .

We're waiting for watno here? Did anything else happen that I missed?

[Eevee]

quick everyone ask joth a question! Joth you said you won't answer town questions but what about scum?

Rereading last few pages. Summary: ash claims rolecop/cop/flavorcop/investigator and points at Watno. Vote: Watno .

We're waiting for watno here? Did anything else happen that I missed?

Me and Insomniac got mod-confirmed as townies. I expressed trust in O and Robz.

[O]

Basically if I did what I think I did I would have to be working very hard against my wincon for me to be scum, and Eevee knows this.

[Eevee]

Basically if I did what I think I did I would have to be working very hard against my wincon for me to be scum, and Eevee knows this.

This is true. But you might not have had a say in the matter.

You know, your major arcana role was kind of working against your wincon in that game and that wasnt even a bastard game.

But as I said, O not being town would be very bastardly of jot, and kind of for no reason too.

[O]

Basically if I did what I think I did I would have to be working very hard against my wincon for me to be scum, and Eevee knows this.

This is true. But you might not have had a say in the matter.

You know, your major arcana role was kind of working against your wincon in that game and that wasnt even a bastard game.

But as I said, O not being town would be very bastardly of jot, and kind of for no reason too.

1) MIX is ongoing shush
2) But yes, I've already yelled at Cayvie for this