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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #100 on: June 21, 2012, 05:34:18 pm »

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=21496

I like post 21 in this. Perhaps we should start a Mafia game here were everyone has to write in prose. Wouldn't that be fun for Galzria's essays? Who knows... he could be the next Shakespeare!

I spent close to ten years performing on stage. I grew up in the Michigan/Illinois area, and traveled up to Stratford in Canada every year to attend their Shakespeare festival (Along with the Festival in Oregon, they're some of the largest and most well known outside of the Globe Theatre in London). So... yeah. Can do.

Eh, don't do it!

It obscures what you're trying to say, which is helpful for Mafia and not Town... Gives convenient excuses for content-less posts and lurking, etc etc etc. Diverts attention to style rather than substance, even more than typical Mafia games do!

Suspicion on Yuma for suggesting it in the first place. Considering in that game, the poet was the mafia!

O is being... Uncannily helpful for D1.

Bad O. Stop it. Do I need to random vote based on timestamp?

Do I really need to add more chaos to this setup?

I don't think you do, unless you think it'll help you find a Mafia day 1. Because nobody's been so good at that yet...
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #101 on: June 21, 2012, 05:35:12 pm »

O is being... Uncannily helpful for D1.

Bad O. Stop it. Do I need to random vote based on timestamp?

Do I really need to add more chaos to this setup?

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #102 on: June 21, 2012, 05:53:39 pm »

prose/prōz/Noun:      Written or spoken language in its ordinary form, without metrical structure.

Wish I had use of the edit button, as such, thanks for the correction
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #103 on: June 21, 2012, 06:59:40 pm »

But O your town play is unrivaled and now your changing it

Vote: O

Why change a good thing if your not mafia?
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #104 on: June 21, 2012, 07:13:31 pm »

But O your town play is unrivaled and now your changing it

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Why change a good thing if your not mafia?

I'll take it as a compliment  :).

Because my town play is "unrivaled" in normal setups, not necessarily nutty setUps.

Plus it's tiring....
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #105 on: June 22, 2012, 10:20:15 am »

So is there something of a plan at this point? Are we using our roles, or just hiding, or does nobody have any idea yet?

Just posting because it kind of died here.
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #106 on: June 22, 2012, 10:44:57 am »

So is there something of a plan at this point? Are we using our roles, or just hiding, or does nobody have any idea yet?

Just posting because it kind of died here.

I tend to think that the night powers should be used, and that we should claim in advance who we used them on, so that when people die, we can start to piece what happened together.  For example, the weak doctor's "power" is damn near useless if we don't know who he targeted when he dies.  Whether that means we intentionally stack up multiple people on 1 person to maximize chance of real doctor protection, or we spread out to maximize the information gained, I don't know.

I tried to model out the probabilities of how many Town / Mafia kills we might have if we no-lynched and each did our night action on the person to our left and it got ugly really quickly.  Looking purely at CPR doctor & Vig Equivalent, I'm pretty confident that we have at least a 39% chance of killing 1 mafia with that approach.  On the other hand, we have at least a 34% chance of killing 2 towns.
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #107 on: June 22, 2012, 12:54:03 pm »

My instinct was for us to not do anything in the night, but a brief glimpse at those other games and it looks like we should just go wild and try to piece things together tomorrow.
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #108 on: June 22, 2012, 01:12:32 pm »

I don't know what to do here honestly... Inn reading and listening closely though trying to figure it out.

In the meantime our Mod failed by not working this into his opening flavor setup:

 
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #109 on: June 22, 2012, 01:17:36 pm »

I'm pretty unsure about what we should do now since I thought the herbalist was gonna be able to get information.

UNVOTE

I'm not convinced that O isn't playing this game differently because he's mafia but I want to see more of what non-troll O looks like in mafia.
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #110 on: June 22, 2012, 01:18:26 pm »

Definitely using our roles.

Undecided as whether to predetermine who targets who; not sure either way.

Advantages of spreading out predetermined targets: slightly more info when somebody dies. But it's only slightly, since Mafia will mess with the spread. How much more info this is depends on how many people die, the more of a bloodbath we get the more a predetermined target helps.
Advantages of not publicly disclosing targets: Mafia are shooting in the dark and we might save somebody from a Mafia kill, we do have a few real doctors around!

And yeah, the thread went silent. We all had a few posts, I guess nothing jumped out at anybody as scummy, so nobody posted about it, which sucks. I'm starting to accumulate minor things to call reads/scumtells for doing this the old-fashioned way, good 'ol scumhunting work, but nothing definitive of course. I'd lean town for zxc and O. Insomniac has minor scumtells but meh, not putting my vote there.

vote: yuma
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #111 on: June 22, 2012, 01:33:05 pm »

Okay, I'll do it. No mafia is complete without it:

1 - Robz888
2 - Galzria
3 - O
4 - Thisisnotasmile
5 - ftl
6 - yuma
7 - Captain_Frisk
8 - Insomniac
9 - zxcvbn2

0 - O... Because they look the same and also because he didn't do it :(
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« Reply #112 on: June 22, 2012, 01:33:28 pm »

vote: ftl
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #114 on: June 22, 2012, 01:48:23 pm »

vote: ftl

Vote: ftl. 

Because i'm jumping on the wagon, and he was quick to use any excuse to vote for me.
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #115 on: June 22, 2012, 01:52:10 pm »

A few of you decide you can deduce who the Golem is by checking in each others' heads for pieces of paper. There is quite a bit of excitement when a piece of paper is found stuck to the back of ftl's head! But it turns out it's just one of the missing nametags, too muddy to read. Galzria looks around at the town and proclaims "My brain hurts."

Vote Count


Captain_Frisk [1] - O
Galzria [1] - Galzria
ftl [2] - Thisisnotasmile, Captain_Frisk
yuma[1] - ftl

not voting - Robz888, yuma, Insomniac, zxcvbn2

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #116 on: June 22, 2012, 03:04:32 pm »

Ohhhh I feel slow. That was a random vote by TINAS. I stared at that post for a long time wondering why O was on his suspicion list twice, and why he voted for me even though I was 5th on his list... it all makes sense now, TINAS is trying to be O. It fits.
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #117 on: June 22, 2012, 03:08:21 pm »

Random voting hits FTL twice?

It must be a sign... *twitches* arrggggghhhhhh *poof of smoke, transformation*

I AM O

Vote:FTL
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #118 on: June 22, 2012, 03:26:02 pm »

Random voting hits FTL twice?

It must be a sign... *twitches* arrggggghhhhhh *poof of smoke, transformation*

I AM O

Vote:FTL

So your going back to Mafia 1,3,4 O?
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« Reply #119 on: June 22, 2012, 03:28:46 pm »

Each O is a unique and special O, IDK what you're talking about.
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« Reply #120 on: June 22, 2012, 03:29:48 pm »

Each O is a unique and special O, IDK what you're talking about.

You'll get nothing and like it.

Vote: OTINAS
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« Reply #121 on: June 22, 2012, 03:42:20 pm »

And yeah, the thread went silent. We all had a few posts, I guess nothing jumped out at anybody as scummy, so nobody posted about it, which sucks. I'm starting to accumulate minor things to call reads/scumtells for doing this the old-fashioned way, good 'ol scumhunting work, but nothing definitive of course. I'd lean town for zxc and O. Insomniac has minor scumtells but meh, not putting my vote there.
vote: yuma

I take it your vote for me was based on ... Actually I can't tell since you didn't mention me at all beside the vote. Hopefully it is intended to illicit a response from me since I have been a bit quite. Good job. I you got a response. On that note: I should let everyone know I will be gone from this upcoming Wednesday through Saturday--I volunteer with the Boy Scouts and were are going on a river trip.

I am a bit curious--not necessarily suspicious yet--of Galz and Robz. Both are a bit more quiet then they were in Mafia III. In that game they were talking a lot even when there was nothing to talk about. (And I know I am doing exactly what I complained about in Mafia III, referencing previous games... my bad.)
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #122 on: June 22, 2012, 03:48:50 pm »

I disagree.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #123 on: June 22, 2012, 04:11:17 pm »

Galzria and Robz talk when they're mafia, they talk when they're not, the amount they talk isn't a good guage of whether or not they're mafia IMO.

Important note, I'm going to a GP this weekend for magic so will probably check far less as of 2pm PDT today until Monday. I'll still try to get on here and post but I can't promise much this weekend
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Re: MAFIA V: Emptying the Apothecary Pile (Day 1) PM MOD FOR DISCUSSION QT
« Reply #124 on: June 22, 2012, 05:43:15 pm »

The next attempt is to determine the identity of the Alchemist. Everyone grabs a piece of lead and starts trying to turn it into Gold.  Twenty minutes later, someone remembers that the actual Alchemist still hadn't figured that one out...

Vote Count


Galzria [1] - Galzria
ftl [3] - Thisisnotasmile, Captain_Frisk, O
yuma[1] - ftl
Thisisnotasmile[1] - Insomniac

not voting - Robz888, yuma, zxcvbn2

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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