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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #225 on: September 25, 2024, 09:21:47 am »

I join the chorus of people saying EFHW's claim is hella suspicious, but let's give them one night to either get nightkilled or get a result.

This is a good point efhw can at least provide results
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #226 on: September 25, 2024, 09:23:01 am »

If mafia didn’t pick a bunch of mods fake claiming is relatively safe and tracker is by far the most dangerous role which they at least get to take out in the event of a counterclaim.

I would also pivot to scola but I’m not sold efhw is really tracker

Me neither but I don’t think it’s safe to go through with an exile at this point
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #227 on: September 25, 2024, 09:40:14 am »

If mafia didn’t pick a bunch of mods fake claiming is relatively safe and tracker is by far the most dangerous role which they at least get to take out in the event of a counterclaim.

I would also pivot to scola but I’m not sold efhw is really tracker

Me neither but I don’t think it’s safe to go through with an exile at this point

Exile or no exile?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #228 on: September 25, 2024, 09:43:55 am »

It seems like we lose the most when we no exile. And if there is ever a day we choose to no exile, I would prefer we do it as a time that moves the nights to the weekend so we actually get 5 days out of our days.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #229 on: September 25, 2024, 09:48:50 am »

If mafia didn’t pick a bunch of mods fake claiming is relatively safe and tracker is by far the most dangerous role which they at least get to take out in the event of a counterclaim.

I would also pivot to scola but I’m not sold efhw is really tracker

Me neither but I don’t think it’s safe to go through with an exile at this point

Exile or no exile?

Not safe to exile efhw
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #230 on: September 25, 2024, 09:55:15 am »

even if we wanted to get rid of EFHW, I think too many people have moved off her wagon by now. With less than 2 hours to go, it's scola or bust.

We do have an even number of players, so failing to exile here isn't the worst thing in the world. In fact I'm a little surprised no one suggested it.

yes, but there also might not be a nightkill
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #231 on: September 25, 2024, 09:55:48 am »

Deadline is in about 50 minutes.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #232 on: September 25, 2024, 09:57:54 am »

No-exiling and then successfully preventing a NK would be the lamest thing ever, we should consider no-exiling later when we have a better idea if a kill is ever going to be prevented.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #233 on: September 25, 2024, 10:06:28 am »

unofficial vote count:

Cuzz (1): Awaclus
EFHW (2): mcmcsalot, Galzria
jotheonah (1): Swowl
Galzria (2): shraeye, scolapasta
scolapasta (6): Robz888, Cuzz, LaLight, EFHW, WestCoastDidds, jotheonah

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People who can get an exile for us right now: Awaclus, mcmcsalot, Galzria, Swowl, shraeye -- at least three of whom have been around posting in the last couple of hours.

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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #234 on: September 25, 2024, 10:11:43 am »

If mafia didn’t pick a bunch of mods fake claiming is relatively safe and tracker is by far the most dangerous role which they at least get to take out in the event of a counterclaim.

I would also pivot to scola but I’m not sold efhw is really tracker

Me neither but I don’t think it’s safe to go through with an exile at this point

Exile or no exile?

Not safe to exile efhw

Ah!
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #235 on: September 25, 2024, 10:14:35 am »

Yea I am here and will hammer scola just waiting to see if they show up as they said they would
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #236 on: September 25, 2024, 10:15:58 am »

My role came as a mod. I started out as VT.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #237 on: September 25, 2024, 10:16:24 am »

I'm town, so should not be exiled. That said, I don't like the end of no exile either, so...

At least if I get x out. Hopefully you can learn some information from who's suddenly decided to vote for me. It seems pretty suspicious how quickly the wagon on me got created.

For what reason? Because I didn't post much on day one which I've admitted every game I played that I'm not good at. Weird.

Problem. I also don't see anyone likely to be exiled today. Which kind of sucks for me.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #238 on: September 25, 2024, 10:19:38 am »

I do hope efhw is at least really a tracker, and survives the night with some information.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #239 on: September 25, 2024, 10:21:30 am »

At least efhw exiling me. This game won't lose it for us like it did last time. 🙂

Clearly, i am still bitter about that.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #240 on: September 25, 2024, 10:23:59 am »

At least efhw exiling me. This game won't lose it for us like it did last time. 🙂

Clearly, i am still bitter about that.

I think it’s totally fair to stay salty awhile. I feel ya
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #241 on: September 25, 2024, 10:24:14 am »

well i don't love it but vote: scola

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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #242 on: September 25, 2024, 10:25:43 am »

well i don't love it but vote: scola

Spoken like a scum player. One of the brothers I'd say for sure.

Good luck town!
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #243 on: September 25, 2024, 10:26:51 am »

At least efhw exiling me. This game won't lose it for us like it did last time. 🙂

Clearly, i am still bitter about that.

I think it’s totally fair to stay salty awhile. I feel ya

salty about that game where he lurked for the first 2 days, claimed a pr at l-3 and then later lied to town about the use of his pr. Are we supposed to be shocked that that player gets exhiled in an endgame?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #244 on: September 25, 2024, 10:28:37 am »

At least efhw exiling me. This game won't lose it for us like it did last time. 🙂

Clearly, i am still bitter about that.

I think it’s totally fair to stay salty awhile. I feel ya

Mwhahahahaha. Yep, lessons learned for sure. But that last day did go down really fast before he got to say much
salty about that game where he lurked for the first 2 days, claimed a pr at l-3 and then later lied to town about the use of his pr. Are we supposed to be shocked that that player gets exhiled in an endgame?
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #245 on: September 25, 2024, 10:29:05 am »

I have yet to post much about last game, but I think lying as town is perfectly acceptable. As it's a tool town has since Mafia has more information.

It backfired me last ti, me since I had the role detective, otherwise it probably would have worked

Also, I don't recall lurking day two of last game. I do seem to lurk d1s, because I don't like day one, hopefully people will stop exiling me for that
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #246 on: September 25, 2024, 10:29:55 am »

well i don't love it but vote: scola

Spoken like a scum player. One of the brothers I'd say for sure.

Good luck town!

If I was scum I would just exhile you before you even came back. perhaps this is town!mcmc frustrated because I think there is a decent chance you are town and your exhile doesnt tell us anything about the rest of the players in the game since you have zero interactions with them.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #247 on: September 25, 2024, 10:31:36 am »

For future game, I'll also add not posting, doesn't necessarily mean lurking. I have times where I'm busy and just don't have time, and then times where I can post lots of things. It does seem as my posting time's off and come when others can't, late night East Coast.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #248 on: September 25, 2024, 10:32:20 am »

I have yet to post much about last game, but I think lying as town is perfectly acceptable. As it's a tool town has since Mafia has more information.

It backfired me last ti, me since I had the role detective, otherwise it probably would have worked

Also, I don't recall lurking day two of last game. I do seem to lurk d1s, because I don't like day one, hopefully people will stop exiling me for that

I explained it in the speccy qt of that game, while lying as town can be beneficial for town lying as scum is extremely beneficial for scum. Hence allowing lying as town opens the door to lie as scum and say well I was lying as town for X or Y reason. The upside is so much bigger for scum collectively its better for town to refuse to allow town to lie thus preventing scum from lying.
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Re: M142: Spiel des Jahres Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #249 on: September 25, 2024, 10:33:16 am »

well i don't love it but vote: scola

Spoken like a scum player. One of the brothers I'd say for sure.

Good luck town!

If I was scum I would just exhile you before you even came back. perhaps this is town!mcmc frustrated because I think there is a decent chance you are town and your exhile doesnt tell us anything about the rest of the players in the game since you have zero interactions with them.

I don't believe the I would Exile without letting you post.
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