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[Nukatha]

Edit: wrong board, thanks J Reggie.

[J Reggie]

I'm curious what a proper price for a 'regular-sized' turnip would be. 
That is:
Turnip
+1 coffers
+1$ per coffers you have. 
It would then be a strictly better silver, so probably $5?

https://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?board=11.0

[DaveColMD]

The changes to Cornucopia/Guilds are on online Dominion.

Removed:
Doctor
Farming Village
Fortune Teller
Harvest
Horse Trader
Masterpiece
Taxman
Tournament

Of these I was only sad to see 2 of them go.
Farming Village was a good 2 action sifter. It let you bypass victory cards, curses, ruins, etc.
Taxman - upgrade a treasure and cause an opponent to discard one of the same.

2 of the replacements give me concern:

Ferryman: 2 cards, 1 action, discard a card. Setup  add a kingdom card pile costing 3 or 4. When you gain this, take a card from that pile.
To me this seems like a card that leads to a 3 pile end strategy.
Ill Gotten Gains set up a similar strategy and was gotten rid of because of that.

Footpad 2 coffers, each other player discards down to 3 cards. In games using this, when you gain a card in an action phase, +1 card.

The discard down to 3 cards is a bit too powerful IMO. 2 coffers and +1 card when you gain a card in the action phase is plenty.
Does the +1 card when a card is gained during the action phase apply to everyone the entire game?


I don't have a problem with any of the other replacements.

Joust replaces Tournament and works similarly except you automatically get 1 card and 1 coin in addition to the 1 action. There is no blocking the 1 coin and 1 card if someone else has a province. The rewards are similar to Tournament's Prizes, except there are 6 instead of 5 and one of them is a victory card that gives you 2 actions, 2 buys, gain a gold, and 1 VP per gold you have.

[GendoIkari]

Ferryman: 2 cards, 1 action, discard a card. Setup  add a kingdom card pile costing 3 or 4. When you gain this, take a card from that pile.
To me this seems like a card that leads to a 3 pile end strategy.
Ill Gotten Gains set up a similar strategy and was gotten rid of because of that.

No, it doesn't work like that (I originally read it that way as well). You choose an unused pile, but you don't add that unused pile to the supply. It's just a non-supply pile that can only be gained with Ferryman, and so it wouldn't count towards the 3 empty piles.

[GendoIkari]

Footpad 2 coffers, each other player discards down to 3 cards. In games using this, when you gain a card in an action phase, +1 card.

The discard down to 3 cards is a bit too powerful IMO. 2 coffers and +1 card when you gain a card in the action phase is plenty.
Does the +1 card when a card is gained during the action phase apply to everyone the entire game?

The +1 card when you gain a card is just an "in games using this" effect, so it doesn't tie into the card's power at all; it just changes the rules for that game in general (and not even in a way that makes Footpad better since it doesn't gain a card). The actual effect is just Militia with Coffers instead of . That seems like should be perfectly fine for that; you're going to get attacked by it less often than you would get the exact same attack in a game with Militia.

[AJD]

The changes to Cornucopia/Guilds are on online Dominion.

Removed:
Doctor
Farming Village
Fortune Teller
Harvest
Horse Trader
Jester
Masterpiece
Taxman
Tournament

Jester isn't removed.

[DaveColMD]

AJD is correct. Jester is NOT removed. Merchant Guilds is. I have corrected my post.

[kieranmillar]

Merchant Guild isn't removed either! Only 8 cards were removed.

[DaveColMD]

Added Card

What looks like a double headed hammer is now the symbol for the combined Cornucopia/Guilds.

You can sort of  figure out what they replaced.

Farrier(2) 1 card, 1 action, 1 buy. Overpay: +1 card next turn per 1c overpaid.
Infirmary(3) +1 card. You may trash a card from your hand. Overpay: Play this once per 1c overpaid.
Shop(3) 1 card, 1 coin. Play an action card you do not have in play
Farmhands(4) 1 card, 2 actions. When gained you may set aside an action or treasure from your hand and play it at the start of next turn.
Carnival(5) Reveal the top 4 cards of your deck. Put one of each differently named cards into your hand.
Ferryman(5) 2cards, 1 action. Discard a card.  Setup: Choose an unused Kingdom pile costing 3 or 4. Gain one when  you gain a Ferryman.
Footpad(5) +2 coffers. Each other player discards down to 3 cards. In games using this, when you gain a card in the action phase, +1 card.
Joust(5) 1 card, 1 action, 1c. You may set aside a province to gain a reward to your hand. Discard the province at clean up.

[DaveColMD]

Wow, I need to clean my glasses. Kieranmillar is correct. Merchant Guild is NOT removed.

[Honkeyfresh]

Infirmary looks really weird.  The overpay part is just odd.? So when you buy this you spend coins, to essentially draw new cards, that you can only then spend most of the time if they are bigger coins. I guess overpaying is probably mostly drawing for trashing, have to play this one a little to feel it out.

[kieranmillar]

You can't play any more treasures after buying something, so when overpaying it will be drawing to find things to trash, outside of all the usual edge cases.

[Jack Rudd]

Night cards being a big edge case there.

[Honkeyfresh]

Infirmary looks really weird.  The overpay part is just odd.? So when you buy this you spend coins, to essentially draw new cards, that you can only then spend most of the time if they are bigger coins. I guess overpaying is probably mostly drawing for trashing, have to play this one a little to feel it out.

After playing it a little bit, it's actually pretty strong.  Even the overpay that felt odd at first is really nice, especially if you spike 5 or 6 early. Spiking 6 on t3 with Infirmary pretty much guarantees you get to trash 3 estates, and is a huge early advantage.

[DooWopDJ]

Cornucopia & Guilds second edition is coming! It's the original two small expansions in one box, with replaced cards like the other second editions. We expect the physical version in mid-March. You will be able to get just the new cards as a 100-card update pack. We expect previews online, possibly from March 11-13. After that we expect the new expansion Rising Sun in April or May; the art for it is still not all in.

" ... We expect previews online, possibly from March 11-13 ...".  Any updates on a physical cards release date?

[Death By Dominion]

On March 8 Donald X said:

Still on schedule, should be in the warehouse within a week, and propagate outwards from there.

Marchland will be slower because it goes to BoardGameGeek and then they release it on their own schedule. But it was on the same boat.

I think this is the most recent update

[J410]

From Discord, ~13 hours ago:

Some people have physical C&G2E now. I don't know when exactly anyone first got it.

[Death By Dominion]

In that case does anyone know where it is available for purchase online? I have only found websites offering pre orders.

[Nukatha]

I just put in an order at my FLGS. I like supporting my local businesses.

[enfynet]

In that case does anyone know where it is available for purchase online? I have only found websites offering pre orders.

There was a seller on Amazon briefly. As I'm waiting for the update pack, I didn't order one. I didn't look at who the seller was on Amazon either.

[Hockey Mask]

Received my physical copy today from Amazon.

[Nukatha]

I find it amusing that Footpad is roughly the replacement attack for Taxman, but in a game with Footpad, Taxman actually becomes usable as a full mine+attack, since you get to immediately draw the treasure you just topdecked.

[Tmanchester606]

Anyone know why this upgrade pack is twice the cost of the other ones on Amazon right now?  Is it just because it’s new?

[Death By Dominion]

Anyone know why this upgrade pack is twice the cost of the other ones on Amazon right now?  Is it just because it’s new?

Probably. I would assume so because it is still semi-difficult to get.

[BryGuy]

I found the best price at Game Nerdz. I ordered it seven days ago and got it today.