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Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« on: October 27, 2023, 11:37:50 am »
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Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2

I love the Mixed Box expansion in which Guilds and Cornucopia are combined. I think there was a missed opportunity to add in a promo card that could blend the mechanics. So that's the competition! Create your own Mix Box 2 by Picking two expansions, and design a new card that fits with both. I'd like to see you blending mechanics/themes/sub-themes from both expansions. You may choose Guilds and Cornucopia for your expansions, or you may choose totally different ones. Some expansions have overlapping sub-themes, those are still fine to use!

Contest Guidelines
  • *No Plunder* -- I simply don't know the expansion well enough to judge properly.
  • Anything else goes, including kingdom cards, landscapes, non-Supply cards, and all mechanics before Plunder.
  • Please say which two expansions you are using for your "Mixed Box" and briefly explain how it fits with both.
  • I strongly prefer that your entry has a mock-up. You don't need to add card art, but I want to see the text fit on a card. I recommend using this mock-up tool.
  • Make a new post if you update your entry, please do not edit posts. I include this because I might miss your update!

Examples
  • Valid: A Hinterlands/Intrigue victory-action (Intrigue main-theme) that when you gain (Hinterlands main-theme), it gives you a choice (Intrigue sub-theme) of things to do.
  • Valid: An Allies/Empires Liaison (Allies mechanic) that costs debt (Empires mechanic) and does something with Gold (Empires sub-theme) and gives you a choice (Allies sub-theme).
  • NOT Valid: A Way (Menagerie mechanic), that during the Night phase (Nocturne mechanic), gives you Platinums (Prosperity). That would require a mixed box of three expansions, so it does not work.

Judgment Details:
  • The contest will close roughly one week from today. However, at work there's been some heavy layoffs which may potentially affect my personal timeline on judging
  • I will judge the entries based on balance, how well it fits in your new Mixed Box 2, how well it fits in existing Dominion design-practices (for example, attacks are not political), how fun I think the card is, and simplicity where possible.


Entries:
  • Way of the Opposum by Will(ow|iam). Renaissance+Menagerie. A way that Gives you Coffers and everyone else a Villager
  • Horse Trainer by BryGuy. Intrigue+Menagerie. A non-terminal horse gainer with a discard for draw or more horses
  • Priestess by segura. Nocturne+Alchemy. A cantrip boon gainer or hexer
  • Sneak Theif by Builder_Roberts. Nocturne+Menagerie. A night drawer/exiler
  • Bezoar Stone by majiponi. Alchemy+Cornucopia. In in-hand harvest treasure with setup of adding more variety ala young witch's bane
  • Ghostly Steed by JW. Nocturne+Menagerie. A night-time Haunting attack and horse gainer
  • Group of Farriers/url] by X-tra. Allies+Menagerie. An ally that gives horses for different favor thresholds
  • Raiders Base by NoMoreFun. Dark Ages+Renaissance. A project that discards treasures for spoils
  • Zoo by 4444. Empires+Menagerie. A landmark that rewards early Way plays, which adds a second Way
  • Mass Produced Resource by Cutepelican126. Reniassance+Menagerie. A Project that that can turn a given card into two different Ways
  • Faerie Village by Augie279. Guilds + Nocturne Village Coffer gainer that top decks, with an over-pay for spirit-gaining
  • Corral by grep. Adventures+Menagerie. A reserve that exiles with horse gaining depending on exile
  • Kelpie by D782802859. Nocturne+Menagerie. Night-time hand-gainer (or horse hand-gainer) with reaction to play
  • Night Owl by fika monster. Nocturne+Renaissance. Night-time leftover-action -> villager and leftover $ -> coffer converter *note: this broke the contest rules when you said it was Renaissance and guilds; however, this doesn't use overpay so it's a valid renaissance/nocturne fusion*
  • Deposit by RovingBear. Prosperity+Adventures. A sort of reserve super-plunder
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2023, 02:04:11 pm »
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For a Renaissance+Menagerie mixed box. Renaissance because coffers and villagers and simplicity. Menagerie because Way.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2023, 02:46:24 pm »
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Update: v2 in another post below.

Guilds + Nocturne! Set up some cards for next hand, or put two on top to be immediately drawn back with one of those Will O' Wisps you overpaid for. Or cheat and use Draw-to-X to just get them back. Either way.

Side note: Discord is soon going to be unusable as an image host for this. If you upload cards to Discord and then copy-paste the link here like I do, switch to a different site. This also means cards I submitted for past fan-card contests are likely to be inaccessible by the end of the year.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2023, 05:18:10 pm »
+1

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Horse Trainer • $5 • Action
+1 Action
+1 Buy
Gain two Horses.
You may choose one: discard two cards for +3 Cards; or discard a Horse to gain two Horses.
.            :)
This combines choices from Intrigue and Horses from Menagerie.
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Horse Trainer • $5 • Action
+1 Action
+1 Buy
+$1
Gain two Horses.
You may choose one: discard a Silver to gain a Horse; or discard a Horse to gain two Horses.
.            :)
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Horse Trainer • $5 • Action
Gain a Horse.
Choose one: gain a Horse; or discard a Silver or Horse to gain two Horses.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2023, 10:22:12 pm »
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Horse Trainer • $5 • Action
Gain a Horse.
Choose one: gain a Horse; or discard a Silver or Horse to gain two Horses.
.            :)
This combines Horses from Menagerie with choices from Intrigue. Hopefully i was able to get the cost right.
.            :)

I would prefer the wording "You may discard a silver or a horse to gain 3 horses. If you don't, gain 2 horses."
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2023, 03:11:57 am »
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This is a $3. Gain a Horse is fairly similar in strength to +1 Card which implies that this is weaker than Smithy.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2023, 03:22:53 am »
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Nocturne & Alchemy
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2023, 03:27:31 am »
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Nocturne and Menagerie-
Night card from Nocturne, Exiling from Menagerie
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Sneak Thief $3
+2 Cards.

Exile a card from your hand.

Super simple, I know, but that's what works sometimes.
Im not that good at theming, I hope it's not counted too bad against me.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2023, 03:36:55 am »
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Nocturne and Menagerie-
Night card from Nocturne, Exiling from Menagerie
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Sneak Thief $3
+2 Cards.

Exile a card from your hand.

Super simple, I know, but that's what works sometimes.
I think that this a genius way to use draw during the Night.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2023, 03:41:50 am »
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I think that this a genius way to use draw during the Night.

Thank you!
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2023, 06:36:04 pm »
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Im not that good at theming, I hope it's not counted too bad against me.

To clarify -- I will judge based on theme-fit; however, I mean mechanical theme, not card-flavor. I won't give bonus points if a Nocturne/Menagerie card is some sort of fantasy(nocturne flavor) animal(menagerie flavor). If you called this card "Wheel Barrow", I would not count that negatively in final judgement.

I am judging based on meeting the mechanical themes and sub-themes of those sets. I've listed a few examples in the opening posts of cards that would hypothetically fit in well with the expansions themes and sub-themes. If you have questions on what the mechanical themes and sub-themes are for expansions the wiki is a good source, and I can also try to provide my perspective for any specific ones!
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2023, 03:18:31 am »
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Bezoar Stone
cost 2P - Treasure
+1 Buy
Reveal your hand.  +$1 for differently named card revealed.
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Setup: Add 2 extra Kingdom cards pile costing P or more to the Supply.


Alchemy and Cornucopia.  I like Potion cards, but you don't buy Potion just for Transmutes or Philosopher's Stones, do you?  Cornucopia is a good expansion to combine, since it has both "reveal for variety" mechanic and "add extra cards to games" theme.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2023, 01:41:01 pm »
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Nocturne and Menagerie-
Night card from Nocturne, Exiling from Menagerie
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Sneak Thief $3
+2 Cards.

Exile a card from your hand.

Super simple, I know, but that's what works sometimes.
Im not that good at theming, I hope it's not counted too bad against me.

i think this should be $4 cost, but otherwise i think this looks great
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2023, 06:55:04 pm »
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Nocturne and Menagerie-
Night card from Nocturne, Exiling from Menagerie
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Sneak Thief $3
+2 Cards.

Exile a card from your hand.

Super simple, I know, but that's what works sometimes.
Im not that good at theming, I hope it's not counted too bad against me.

i think this should be $4 cost, but otherwise i think this looks great
Why? Exiling is on average slightly better than trashing as you can Exile your starting Estates and other green which is on average more than the purple you would prefer to trash. But it is also less powerful than Monastery and at $4 you would rather have Exorcist.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2023, 04:50:35 am »
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Question about the prompt: If you use a mechanic that appears in multiple but not all expansions like Events or Durations, do you have to pick one of the expansions it appears in for the Mixed Box?
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2023, 09:29:22 am »
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Question about the prompt: If you use a mechanic that appears in multiple but not all expansions like Events or Durations, do you have to pick one of the expansions it appears in for the Mixed Box?

Yes.

If your card only uses one mechanic or sub-theme of an expansion it doesn’t feel super fitting in with that mixed box specifically. So a card that is an event (various) that gives coffers (guilds/renaissance) won’t do very well with the second judgement criteria specifically, Unless it incorporates other aspects of the two sets like it is simple (renaissance) and helps
Play cards at unusual times (menagerie sub theme)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2023, 02:34:28 pm »
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Ghostly Steed
- Night Attack
Each other player with 5 or more cards in hand puts one onto their deck.
Gain two Horses.

Notes: Not quite sure of the power level.

From Nocturne / Menagerie. Which would be released tomorrow, in honor of Halloween! (And little kids like mine who love both animals and spooky things).
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #17 on: October 30, 2023, 05:15:42 pm »
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Just a thought here, feel free to disregard: I once playtested a card similar to this, and it just gained way too many Horses. It really slowed the game down, much like Donald said the Smithy and Cellar for Horses did. It might be worth it to change some of the Horses on this card to +Cards.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2023, 06:58:19 pm »
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I hesitated between 3 and 4 favors, but I decided to go with the former because it's more fun.

Yes, every player gain a Horse at the start of each of their turns with Importer. Like I said, fun!

(From Allies and Menagerie, by the way.)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2023, 01:05:46 am »
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Raiders Base
Project - $5
At the start of your buy phases, discard a Treasure (or reveal a hand with no Treasures) then gain a Spoils.

Dark Ages/Renaissance

Note: The discard isn't optional
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2023, 09:48:41 pm »
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Not 100% on the wording of the bottom text, but the idea is that Zoo comes into the game with its own Way that doesn't count towards the number of landscapes selected during setup.

(Landmarks from Empires, Ways from Menagerie)
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2023, 07:37:25 am »
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Not 100% on the wording of the bottom text, but the idea is that Zoo comes into the game with its own Way that doesn't count towards the number of landscapes selected during setup.

(Landmarks from Empires, Ways from Menagerie)

Oh, it kills engines too easily.  You can't get +Actions too often.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2023, 12:46:35 pm »
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The pig and the mule disagree.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2023, 05:29:05 pm »
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Not 100% on the wording of the bottom text, but the idea is that Zoo comes into the game with its own Way that doesn't count towards the number of landscapes selected during setup.

(Landmarks from Empires, Ways from Menagerie)

Clarification, does “extra way” mean that you would potentially have 2 ways? Or is this meant to ensure at least one Way?
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #203: Mixed Box 2
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2023, 06:53:32 pm »
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Clarification, does “extra way” mean that you would potentially have 2 ways? Or is this meant to ensure at least one Way?

It's to ensure that a Way is in the game, but 2 Ways could occur. The idea is (assuming you are playing with two landscapes), that if one of the two landscapes is Zoo, then you add a third landscape which is guaranteed to be a Way. The other of the two normally selected landscapes could also be a Way, but could be another Landmark or a Trait or an event etc. etc.
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