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Re: Weekly Design Contest #187: The Law Falls Silent
« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2023, 07:18:02 pm »
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FAQ: if blocked by Moat, you don't get to move/place the token.

I think what makes sense for Moat is that the token is still there but you don't take the debt if you blocked the attack (the debt is the attack, not an inherent feature of the token which is used for tracking).

This will be brutal Sanctioning Copper as written

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Re: Weekly Design Contest #187: The Law Falls Silent
« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2023, 07:29:39 pm »
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FAQ: if blocked by Moat, you don't get to move/place the token.

I think what makes sense for Moat is that the token is still there but you don't take the debt if you blocked the attack (the debt is the attack, not an inherent feature of the token which is used for tracking).

This will be brutal Sanctioning Copper as written
This is true, but I think the card would be better reworded to reflect this. The current form is not ideal anyways, as it has a dividing line that shouldn't be there. I would suggest
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Move your Sanction token to a supply pile. At the start of your next turn, take it back and +$3.
Until then, when any player plays a card from that pile, they first take 2D.
The Copper sanctioning is still a problem and can lock people out of the game if you have a $5/$2 opening.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #187: The Law Falls Silent
« Reply #52 on: May 23, 2023, 01:39:00 am »
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Obviously the card should only be able to punish Action cards. Hitting Silver or Golds can be brutal as well. Suppose Alice hits Silvers and Bob hits Golds. No way Charlie can do anything useful in his turn in a Kingdom without few virtual Coin cards.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #187: The Law Falls Silent
« Reply #53 on: May 23, 2023, 03:28:52 am »
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This is true, but I think the card would be better reworded to reflect this. The current form is not ideal anyways, as it has a dividing line that shouldn't be there. I would suggest
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Move your Sanction token to a supply pile. At the start of your next turn, take it back and +$3.
Until then, when any player plays a card from that pile, they first take 2D.
The Copper sanctioning is still a problem and can lock people out of the game if you have a $5/$2 opening.

Whelp I really was tired when I made this. Missed both the horizontal line (?!) and the fact that it can hit Coppers. I very much want it to hit custom Treasure cards but not Copper/Silver/Gold. So "Kingdom supply pile" should do it.  And it shouldn't have the attack type; it's an attack like Embargo that doesn't have the type bc the interaction with moat is awkward

Updated Version (it's fine if this doesn't make it into the contest anymore).

« Last Edit: May 23, 2023, 03:31:12 am by silverspawn »
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #187: The Law Falls Silent
« Reply #54 on: May 23, 2023, 11:49:24 am »
+1

This is true, but I think the card would be better reworded to reflect this. The current form is not ideal anyways, as it has a dividing line that shouldn't be there. I would suggest
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Move your Sanction token to a supply pile. At the start of your next turn, take it back and +$3.
Until then, when any player plays a card from that pile, they first take 2D.
The Copper sanctioning is still a problem and can lock people out of the game if you have a $5/$2 opening.

Whelp I really was tired when I made this. Missed both the horizontal line (?!) and the fact that it can hit Coppers. I very much want it to hit custom Treasure cards but not Copper/Silver/Gold. So "Kingdom supply pile" should do it.  And it shouldn't have the attack type; it's an attack like Embargo that doesn't have the type bc the interaction with moat is awkward

Updated Version (it's fine if this doesn't make it into the contest anymore).



I think it could be an Attack just like the other duration attacks Blockade and Swamp Hag are. The only difference to those two cards is that TB can also hurt the player themself, but this is rarely relevant when sanctioning an Action, and Moat clearly states that it only reacts to another player playing an Attack, not to your own Attack. TB hurts the opponents badly e.g. when sanctioning the only village or a strong cantrip.

Unrelatedly, you don't need a token if TB sets aside a copy from the pile instead (like Blockade, but returning it to the pile next turn).
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #187: The Law Falls Silent
« Reply #55 on: May 23, 2023, 03:19:23 pm »
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Unrelatedly, you don't need a token if TB sets aside a copy from the pile instead (like Blockade, but returning it to the pile next turn).
I thought about this, but you'd often want to Sanction empty piles, so if you disallow that it would be a significant nerf.
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Re: Weekly Design Contest #187: The Law Falls Silent
« Reply #56 on: May 24, 2023, 09:13:16 am »
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Sorry for the delay. COVID hit me.

I would like to nominate
Winner: Horse Lord by LTaco
Runner-up:
Port Embezzler by Xen3k
Ransom by 4est

Sorry again for the absence of detailed comments, I will make it up when I recovered :(.
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