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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1700 on: August 15, 2020, 01:53:10 pm »

I checked with Arch. I can redirect to/from dead people, but fixing is not a targeted action so I can’t keep Joth from being rezzed.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1701 on: August 15, 2020, 01:55:06 pm »

Vote: faust

It’s so weird to trust MiX, but such is life.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1702 on: August 15, 2020, 01:56:02 pm »

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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1703 on: August 15, 2020, 01:57:57 pm »

I checked with Arch. I can redirect to/from dead people, but fixing is not a targeted action so I can’t keep Joth from being rezzed.
Did you have to check to know whether you can target dead people? Did you not know before now?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1704 on: August 15, 2020, 03:29:45 pm »

I checked with Arch. I can redirect to/from dead people, but fixing is not a targeted action so I can’t keep Joth from being rezzed.
Did you have to check to know whether you can target dead people? Did you not know before now?

I hadn’t thought about it. I’d done it among living people before. I was really asking about redirecting the fix but asked that, too. I have discovered that there is do much I don’t know, but I’m also learning I can ask a ton of questions
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1705 on: August 15, 2020, 03:38:53 pm »

I checked with Arch. I can redirect to/from dead people, but fixing is not a targeted action so I can’t keep Joth from being rezzed.
Did you have to check to know whether you can target dead people? Did you not know before now?

I hadn’t thought about it. I’d done it among living people before. I was really asking about redirecting the fix but asked that, too. I have discovered that there is do much I don’t know, but I’m also learning I can ask a ton of questions

Ummm.....

Each role’s abilities will also name which types (Living/Dead) of players in the game it can target (if it’s a targeted action).

This should have been very obvious that you can target dead players.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1706 on: August 15, 2020, 03:39:50 pm »

Vote: Didds

I don't know anymore really, but that all seems fake.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1707 on: August 15, 2020, 03:41:15 pm »

Vote: Didds

I don't know anymore really, but that all seems fake.

Just vote yourself if you have to, Didds is town, we know this.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1708 on: August 15, 2020, 03:44:12 pm »

Vote: Didds

I don't know anymore really, but that all seems fake.

Just vote yourself if you have to, Didds is town, we know this.
I thought so, it's just knee-jerk. I would like an explanation of how she could not know she was able to target dead people. It seems weird and unlikely. It also seems a bit OP that she'd be able to target dead people in the first place.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1709 on: August 15, 2020, 04:30:19 pm »

Why would I want to target dead people?

I don’t understand what the utility would be. I used it to try to protect people. And then I stopped using it when it might mess someone results up.

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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1710 on: August 15, 2020, 04:31:56 pm »

And in my pm it doesn’t say living or dead, it just says players...I never went back and read the OP closely.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1711 on: August 15, 2020, 05:30:03 pm »

It seems like it would have been important to know if you could redirect to dead people, no? I mean you haven't redirected either of the last two nights, whereas you could have redirected from any living target to a dead target in order to stop the NK? That is very powerful tool to use.

Earlier someone suggested vote faust because blockers are usually scum. If that's a criteria to use, aren't redirectors usually scum, too?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1712 on: August 15, 2020, 05:31:06 pm »

It seems like it would have been important to know if you could redirect to dead people, no? I mean you haven't redirected either of the last two nights, whereas you could have redirected from any living target to a dead target in order to stop the NK? That is very powerful tool to use.

Earlier someone suggested vote faust because blockers are usually scum. If that's a criteria to use, aren't redirectors usually scum, too?

That's a terrible criteria to use. Also, given what we know of the game, yesterday we had 2 scum alive, and at least 1 scum is a human, ergo all hosts are town.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1713 on: August 15, 2020, 05:55:19 pm »

It seems like it would have been important to know if you could redirect to dead people, no? I mean you haven't redirected either of the last two nights, whereas you could have redirected from any living target to a dead target in order to stop the NK? That is very powerful tool to use.

Earlier someone suggested vote faust because blockers are usually scum. If that's a criteria to use, aren't redirectors usually scum, too?

That's a terrible criteria to use. Also, given what we know of the game, yesterday we had 2 scum alive, and at least 1 scum is a human, ergo all hosts are town.

I do agree it's a bad criteria.

But I don't see the certainty that 1 scum is human. I get most of you think it, but I'm going to stay stubborn on this. Which means it can't be so certain. :)
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1714 on: August 15, 2020, 05:58:46 pm »

Why would I want to target dead people?

I don’t understand what the utility would be. I used it to try to protect people. And then I stopped using it when it might mess someone results up.

You should no better than anyone that I’m never faking naïveté. It cones natural to me.
What better way is there to protect people than to redirect kills onto dead players?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1715 on: August 15, 2020, 06:19:53 pm »

And in my pm it doesn’t say living or dead, it just says players...I never went back and read the OP closely.

I believe thus to be true, BUT your maintenance definitely says "living", which implies that not saying anything means both. Or at least that you should ask, no?

If you had redirected the last two nights, MiX would still be alive! :)
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1716 on: August 15, 2020, 06:26:58 pm »

Do you have a particular redirection in mind? Or just try to keep a host safe? Or try to keep Joth from coming back (I am not sure I can do that, but I’ll ask)?

Redirect a human to...joth? Someone dead. I think that works.

I don’t redirect an actor. From a target to a target. From a human to Joth?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1717 on: August 15, 2020, 06:29:30 pm »

Do you have a particular redirection in mind? Or just try to keep a host safe? Or try to keep Joth from coming back (I am not sure I can do that, but I’ll ask)?

Redirect a human to...joth? Someone dead. I think that works.

I don’t redirect an actor. From a target to a target. From a human to Joth?

I'm confused. Choose your favourite scummy from LL/mail-mi, and redirect them to someone that is dead. You can also redirect scola into someone. Just do something that stops a kill and you'll be useful :P
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1718 on: August 15, 2020, 06:32:46 pm »

Do you have a particular redirection in mind? Or just try to keep a host safe? Or try to keep Joth from coming back (I am not sure I can do that, but I’ll ask)?

Redirect a human to...joth? Someone dead. I think that works.

I don’t redirect an actor. From a target to a target. From a human to Joth?

Why would you redirect from a human? scum doesn't seem able to kill them. Why not from MiX or me? And between those two, why not me, so joth can't massacre me, if he does come back to life?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1719 on: August 15, 2020, 06:33:57 pm »

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait...target?

Didds, can you go over what you did the first 2 nights?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1720 on: August 15, 2020, 06:35:40 pm »

Why would I want to target dead people?

I don’t understand what the utility would be. I used it to try to protect people. And then I stopped using it when it might mess someone results up.

You should no better than anyone that I’m never faking naïveté. It cones natural to me.
What better way is there to protect people than to redirect kills onto dead players?

Well, the first two nights I tried to direct onto scum. I succeeded, maybe, with Joth. And maybe I kept you safe by directing to Awaclus. No one died so maybe.

I couldn’t act N3. I was dead.

After that I was trying not to mess up the results because after the initial redirections there was much confusion and then Mix killed me for redirecting.

Ot maybe you just mean “why are so bad at using this power” and my answer to that is that I don’t know. I’m not as experiences as sone and I’m trying to be a good teammate.

PPE: agree, Scola. That’s why I was following up with MiX since it’s his plan.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1721 on: August 15, 2020, 06:36:54 pm »

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait...target?

Didds, can you go over what you did the first 2 nights?

I redirect actions from one target to another target.

On N1 I redirected actions targeting ADK to Joth
On N2 I redirected actions targeting faust to Awaclus
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1722 on: August 15, 2020, 06:52:22 pm »

Sighhhh that's bad then.

Just predict who's getting NK'd that isn't me or you, Didds. And uh, swap with someone dead at random. Good luck, I guess, but it's not as helpful as I thought.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1723 on: August 15, 2020, 08:12:54 pm »

Right?! It’s not as useful as I originally thought either! Lol!

But I think I have a plan-ish.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1724 on: August 15, 2020, 08:19:18 pm »

Right?! It’s not as useful as I originally thought either! Lol!

But I think I have a plan-ish.

Didds, do you think MiX could be scum?

MiX, same question about Didds?
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