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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1425 on: May 10, 2020, 07:47:27 pm »

I'd just like to say that either I'm confirmed town, or if I give my item I'm confirmed town, or this setup is wack, or Glooble is a tricky son of a bitch.

Which is to say, luck has not been on my side this game.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1426 on: May 10, 2020, 08:30:27 pm »

At the bar, there was another heated conversation going on. Seemed like everyone thought they knew exactly who the mafiosos were. Only problem was, no two people had the same suspect in mind. I kept an eye on the door, but there was no sign of Natalia or the Russian and his goons. Was one of their accomplices hiding in this very bar? Or were these patrons getting ready to string up another innocent townie?

And more importantly, where was the rest of that owl?.


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faust (1): LaLight
Joseph2303 (2): Eevee, skip wooznum
MiX (1): Joseph2303
Eevee (1): A Drowned Kernel
A Drowned Kernel (1): mail-mi
Jotheonah (1): faust
LaLight (1): MiX
Skip wooznum (1): scolapasta
Not voting (2): sudgy, jotheonah
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Day 3 will end at 2:30 pm ET on Wednesday, May 13th.

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1427 on: May 10, 2020, 11:47:09 pm »

Everyone but Joseph has claimed to start with exactly 1 item. This seems to make sense. For me it clears the chance he's scum, although I'm fairly sure there's more items than what have been claimed.

For example, I can't find what Didds wanted. Maybe Swan had it?
To my memory nobody has claimed to have any item on swan's list either.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1428 on: May 11, 2020, 01:12:41 am »

@faust, are you also talking about an owl piece too?
Dunno if it's an owl, I just know it's for some kind of bird. It got stolen from me last night. MiX was the only person who knew I had it.

How did you not know it was for an owl? What DID you know?

Whoever doesn't want me to make 1 post per quote+question, just say so.
As stated, I know that it was made of Copper, and that it belonged to a bird. I suppose I am not ornithologist enough to deduce what bird based on the piece of the bird I had.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1429 on: May 11, 2020, 04:04:08 am »

I think I need to make a post about all the item movements.

MiX
Role: ? but non-GT
Starting item: unknown
Item needed: something Didds had, presumably
Transactions: unknown

mail-mi
Role: Sailor (Jailkeeper)
Starting item: baseball cap
Item needed: Rope
Transactions: none (?)

Galzria
Role: Graverobber
Starting item: unknown
Item needed: none (?)
Transactions: unknown

skip
Role: Sailor
Starting item: Codebook
Item needed: Rope
Transactions: gave codebook to joth N1

Didds
Role: Modified Doctor
Starting item: what MiX needs, presumably
Item needed: some item, unknown which
Transactions: refused trade with LaLight, tried to give item to MiX but was intercepted N1

scolapasta
Role: unknown
Starting item: owl piece #1
Item needed: unknown
Transactions: gave owl piece #1 to joth N1

LaLight
Role: Pawnbroker
Starting item: Knife
Item needed: none
Transactions: Tried to trade knife with Didds N1, gave it to sudgy N2

Awaclus
Role: Compulsory Fruit Vendor
Starting item: Ugly Hat (makes you hated)
Item needed: unknown (maybe none?)
Transactions: none

DatSwan
Role: Modified Motion Detector/Tracker
Starting item: unknown
Item needed: one of Driver's License, Inhaler, Wedding Ring, Sunscreen, Telescope
Transactions: unknown

joth
Role: unknown, but non-GT
Starting item: Notebook
Item needed: Probably none except for the codebook, which was only needed because of the notebook
Transactions: no transaction N1, received codebook and owl piece #1 N2, gave codebook to MiX N2

faust
Role: Pawnbroker
Starting item: owl piece #2
Item needed: none
Transactions: tried to trade owl piece #2 with MiX N1, tried to give owl piece #2 to Joseph N2 but was intercepted

Joseph
Role: third party Pawnbroker/Graverobber/Thief
Starting item: unknown
Item needed: the owl pieces
Transactions: received owl piece #3 from sudgy N1, stole item from Didds N1, stole owl piece #1 from joth N2

sudgy
Role: unknown
Starting item: owl piece #3
Item needed: unknown
Transactions: gave owl piece #3 to Joseph N1, received knife from LaLight N2

ADK
Role: unknown
Starting item: Magnifying Glass
Item needed: unknown
Transactions: gave Magnifying Glass to ? N1

Eevee
Role: unknown
Starting item: Rope
Item needed: unknown
Transactions: tried to give Rope to mail-mi N1, but was intercepted

Please check your entry for any errors.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1430 on: May 11, 2020, 04:13:02 am »

Items unaccounted for: The items Didds and Swan needed.
Items without known function: Magnifying Glass (ADK), Baseball Cap (mail-mi), Knife (LaLight)

We can be relatively certain that the Baseball Cap and the Knife were not the things that Didds needed, or she would have said something. The Magnifying Glass might have been. It is reasonable to assume that Awaclus did not need an item, since a) his role did not have a "Modified" part, and b) he would have claimed so

We also know that there is a least one Generous Townie in the game, and there are only 4 people left who could be Generous Townies.

The Knife is confirmed to be in the game. Unlike the Baseball Cap, for which we have no reason to assume it is even a thing.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1431 on: May 11, 2020, 04:13:13 am »

Vote: mail-mi
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1432 on: May 11, 2020, 06:18:58 am »

I am also going to assume that there are at least 2 Generous Townies, which means 2 out of 4 from Eevee/ADK/sudgy/scola would be town. Most of these are who MiX pushes as scum, which doesn't leave me with a great feeling either.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1433 on: May 11, 2020, 07:00:33 am »

Galzria
Role: Graverobber
Starting item: unknown
Item needed: none (?)
Transactions: unknown

Galzria started with money.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1434 on: May 11, 2020, 07:11:12 am »

Also I think ADK has to be town based on claims.

If anyone started with more than 1 item, now would be the time to claim as such.

sudgy or scola is scum, mail-mi or skip is scum, LL is scum, this looks correct.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1435 on: May 11, 2020, 07:37:37 am »

Joseph, what's your full win condition?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1436 on: May 11, 2020, 07:43:38 am »

Hm. The money is a second item we have no clear use for. It could well be something scum needs.

There is also an angle where scum needs the baseball cap, I suppose.

Vote: LaLight
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1437 on: May 11, 2020, 08:37:43 am »

vote: LaLight

Mostly because (A) we need a wagon today and (B) I am ridiculously sure MiX is town and I like his reasoning, and faust is generally a strong player who I’m also townreading, though less strongly, so this seems like the right place to sheep. If I have time to do some rereading of LaLight of my own I’ll do that today.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1438 on: May 11, 2020, 09:10:52 am »

i missed why knife is confirmed to be in the game
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1439 on: May 11, 2020, 09:39:05 am »

i missed why knife is confirmed to be in the game
I mean sudgy hasn't denied receiving it to my knowledge. Of course you could be partners.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1440 on: May 11, 2020, 09:40:32 am »

i missed why knife is confirmed to be in the game
I mean sudgy hasn't denied receiving it to my knowledge. Of course you could be partners.

I like the casual drop of "I know who you gave it to". Very faust.

Also a truck load of scumpoints for LL.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1441 on: May 11, 2020, 10:42:09 am »

If I have time today, I'm going to do a reread.

But I think I'm okay with vote: LaLight at least for now.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1442 on: May 11, 2020, 12:07:39 pm »

Okay so based on the claims, I'm town reading sudgy and faust. Because they both wanted to give me owl pieces. I think joth is fine too , as they had a use for the owl piece
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1443 on: May 11, 2020, 12:12:10 pm »

Both faust and mail-mi voting for lalight is making uneasy about lynching there
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1444 on: May 11, 2020, 12:20:56 pm »

Both faust and mail-mi voting for lalight is making uneasy about lynching there
It's the best to be voting for someone that noone else wants to lynch, that way you avoid the bad company!
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1445 on: May 11, 2020, 01:07:24 pm »

Okay so based on the claims, I'm town reading sudgy and faust. Because they both wanted to give me owl pieces. I think joth is fine too , as they had a use for the owl piece

That's not how you get townreads...

I suppose you want to scumread scola because he didn't know that a part of a metal bird constituted as a statue?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1446 on: May 11, 2020, 01:22:56 pm »

Both faust and mail-mi voting for lalight is making uneasy about lynching there

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1447 on: May 11, 2020, 01:42:31 pm »

Okay so based on the claims, I'm town reading sudgy and faust. Because they both wanted to give me owl pieces. I think joth is fine too , as they had a use for the owl piece

That's not how you get townreads...

I suppose you want to scumread scola because he didn't know that a part of a metal bird constituted as a statue?

I mean I didn't know it was a part of a statue, I did assume it was the statue and didn't trust Joseph enough.

I would've kept it myself, but I had to give an object away each night; I am a generous townie.

(hopefully claiming today make sense)

If what Joseph says is true, why don't we have him stick around and help us lynch scum? i.e. have him give one piece to someone who is most town (MiX). After we've gotten rid of some scum, we'll give him that piece. Win / win.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1448 on: May 11, 2020, 01:44:15 pm »

That's what I'm doing.

I like how I'm most town. I feel like I've worked for that, and I like that I'm being rewarded for my effort.

Scola, did you give anything N2? Did you recieve anything N1?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1449 on: May 11, 2020, 01:51:25 pm »

I have been item less since after N1.

Also, this is why I don't trust the anyone can win with the three pieces of the owl. I mean I started with a piece, how am I supposed to collect the other 2, if I have to give it away?

That said, not sure why joth would mislead on that.
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