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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #875 on: May 03, 2020, 12:39:08 pm »

This makes me believe that Didds is town too, stealing items seeming like a scum power. Could be different scum factions of course, so not definitive but pretty strong evidence.

If scum potentially has to pass items to each other then there could be utility to a town stealer. The fact that there's apparently two stealing roles makes me doubt that they're both scum
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #876 on: May 03, 2020, 12:56:20 pm »

This makes me believe that Didds is town too, stealing items seeming like a scum power. Could be different scum factions of course, so not definitive but pretty strong evidence.
Seems towny enough for the people who had items stolen to not be lynch options for today at least
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #877 on: May 03, 2020, 12:58:06 pm »

Also joth, was the you needed both the codebook and notebook to decode correct? Are both items that can be passed? Could anyone decode if they had both items? or just you?

Is this at all tied in with a PR or will this just provide us with some info?

My assumption based on the info I have is that anyone with both could have decoded the message.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #878 on: May 03, 2020, 12:59:17 pm »

vote: Galzria
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #879 on: May 03, 2020, 01:01:07 pm »

Also joth, was the you needed both the codebook and notebook to decode correct? Are both items that can be passed? Could anyone decode if they had both items? or just you?

Is this at all tied in with a PR or will this just provide us with some info?

My assumption based on the info I have is that anyone with both could have decoded the message.

How many items did you start with?

vote: Galzria

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #880 on: May 03, 2020, 01:01:19 pm »

Also joth, was the you needed both the codebook and notebook to decode correct? Are both items that can be passed? Could anyone decode if they had both items? or just you?

Is this at all tied in with a PR or will this just provide us with some info?

My assumption based on the info I have is that anyone with both could have decoded the message.

Does that mean you could pass both to people who you think are town and selectively reveal the message?

Oh, and

vote: skip

I meant to say that last time.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #881 on: May 04, 2020, 12:00:48 am »

Looking at eod yesterday, I'm a little confused. @Faust, what was your lynch preference yesterday?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #882 on: May 04, 2020, 02:43:49 am »

Looking at eod yesterday, I'm a little confused. @Faust, what was your lynch preference yesterday?
mail-mi > skip > Awaclus > no lynch
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #883 on: May 04, 2020, 02:48:55 am »

This makes me believe that Didds is town too, stealing items seeming like a scum power. Could be different scum factions of course, so not definitive but pretty strong evidence.
Well Didds could easily be lying, so "strong evidence" seems like a bit of a stretch, it's just Didds' word that something vaguely towny happened to her.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #884 on: May 04, 2020, 07:15:08 am »

This makes me believe that Didds is town too, stealing items seeming like a scum power. Could be different scum factions of course, so not definitive but pretty strong evidence.
Well Didds could easily be lying, so "strong evidence" seems like a bit of a stretch, it's just Didds' word that something vaguely towny happened to her.

Only town can start with the item I need, so they're...town. They're town for me.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #885 on: May 04, 2020, 08:58:35 am »


Does that mean you could pass both to people who you think are town and selectively reveal the message?


I suppose I could. Not sure that that has a ton of utility though.

I could do a skip lynch. I'm not like dead sure he's scum, but he has certainly been scummy and people made some convincing cases yesterday.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #886 on: May 04, 2020, 08:59:24 am »

Crap these short days are short. We have like 53 hours as of now.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #887 on: May 04, 2020, 09:00:19 am »


Does that mean you could pass both to people who you think are town and selectively reveal the message?


I suppose I could. Not sure that that has a ton of utility though.

I could do a skip lynch. I'm not like dead sure he's scum, but he has certainly been scummy and people made some convincing cases yesterday.

Do you get a PR by having both books or just info?

Also don't answer this if you don't want to, I'm just wondering.

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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #888 on: May 04, 2020, 09:19:53 am »


Does that mean you could pass both to people who you think are town and selectively reveal the message?


I suppose I could. Not sure that that has a ton of utility though.

I could do a skip lynch. I'm not like dead sure he's scum, but he has certainly been scummy and people made some convincing cases yesterday.

Like what?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #889 on: May 04, 2020, 09:30:52 am »

Well well well.

Vote: mail-mi
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #890 on: May 04, 2020, 09:37:48 am »

skip, did you have any indication that if you had the codebook, you would have been able to decipher the notebook?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #891 on: May 04, 2020, 09:53:18 am »

I am somewhat regretting my decision to make the days 5 days instead of seven, but it seems unfair to change it now. I also don’t want to derail conversation by having people talk about whether they want longer days. So if you have feelings let me know if your QT.

I’ll try and get a vote count out this afternoon but Monday’s are rough for me work-wise.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #892 on: May 04, 2020, 09:55:15 am »

I am somewhat regretting my decision to make the days 5 days instead of seven, but it seems unfair to change it now. I also don’t want to derail conversation by having people talk about whether they want longer days. So if you have feelings let me know if your QT.

I’ll try and get a vote count out this afternoon but Monday’s are rough for me work-wise.


It's fine. We're just dropping the ball. I know I am.

I don't have the energy for day phases anymore. Also I lost will to do things after Didds got blocked :(

I have a ton of townreads, however. ICs abound.

Well well well.

Vote: mail-mi

Can you explain this vote more than you have?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #893 on: May 04, 2020, 10:05:18 am »

Well well well.

Vote: mail-mi

Can you explain this vote more than you have?
Looking at the end of the Day, skip's reaction to the double role claim seemed genuine. mail-mi just sort of dropped off the skip wagon and joined on Awaclus for no apparent reason, and I don't see why town!mail-mi would do that. From skip's point of view, mail-mi called out the exact role that he had, and that made him reconsider. From mail-mi's point of view, skip just parroted his claim and there was no reason to change his read.

Also the bit where skip thought he was lynched and scrambled to get his item where it needed to go seemed genuine, so I'm not too interested in that lynch.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #894 on: May 04, 2020, 10:12:30 am »


Also the bit where skip thought he was lynched and scrambled to get his item where it needed to go seemed genuine, so I'm not too interested in that lynch.

That's true. I momentarily forgot that Skip gave me the notebook. Dunno why scum!skip would do that.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #895 on: May 04, 2020, 10:12:58 am »


Also the bit where skip thought he was lynched and scrambled to get his item where it needed to go seemed genuine, so I'm not too interested in that lynch.

That's true. I momentarily forgot that Skip gave me the notebook. Dunno why scum!skip would do that.

Doesn't he kinda have to?
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #896 on: May 04, 2020, 10:29:22 am »

thinking  about it, i am willing to vote mail-mi/skip today (with slight preference over mail-mi), but also I think faust is scum.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #897 on: May 04, 2020, 10:39:14 am »

thinking  about it, i am willing to vote mail-mi/skip today (with slight preference over mail-mi), but also I think faust is scum.
I am also not done with you yet.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #898 on: May 04, 2020, 11:06:19 am »

Presenting, for your edification, the Awaclus wagon:

Anyone interested in vote: awaclus?

Fits scum avoiding doing anything controversial and just skating by to a T.

Eevee's vote notably before the mail-mi claim which derailed the skip/mail-mi thing.

ADK asks why Awaclus, MiX says lurking, Galz says there's no particular reason to think he's scum

skip expresses a willingness to vote Awa

Vote: Awaclus

I figure it’s somewhat better than random

vote: awaclus

I will not vote Awaclus.

vote: awaclus

(After a couple posts saying that he will vote Awaclus to get a lynch and hoping that something else happens)

Vote: Awaclus - let's see.

vote: awaclus

faust shows up and votes skip, prompting mail-mi and LaLight to move to skip. Then he realizes the skip wagon was smaller at that point than MiX was making it out to be.

Yikes, was this wrong?

Vote: Awaclus

(followed by a mail-mi re-vote)

Vote: Awaclus

vote: awaclus

Note the time stamp, based on Glooble's stated deadline these were basically last possible second votes.

Posting this now, then I'll do analysis.
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Re: BM30: MacGuffin Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #899 on: May 04, 2020, 11:15:37 am »

Vote: mail-mi

Looks around

Vote: small-mi
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