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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2125 on: June 20, 2020, 11:38:53 pm »

Okay, I think I understand most of what's going on with the claims.

My evidence supports LaLight's claim (that joth targeted cube) over joth's claim (that he targeted faust).

So either joth is lying or he was redirected. If he's Town then his Town result should be taken to be on cube.

can you explain why it should be on cube?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2126 on: June 20, 2020, 11:42:49 pm »

Hot take: there are >=5 scum in this game.

are there?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2127 on: June 20, 2020, 11:45:26 pm »

can you explain why it should be on cube?

If joth is telling the truth it seems that his investigation was redirected from faust to cube.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2128 on: June 20, 2020, 11:48:28 pm »

Okay, I think I understand most of what's going on with the claims.

My evidence supports LaLight's claim (that joth targeted cube) over joth's claim (that he targeted faust).

So either joth is lying or he was redirected. If he's Town then his Town result should be taken to be on cube.

can you explain why it should be on cube?


to clarify my question- how would redirecting make sense with glooble getting an alerter and with Lalight not seeing the redirector target cube?

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2129 on: June 20, 2020, 11:53:40 pm »

to clarify my question- how would redirecting make sense with glooble getting an alerter and with Lalight not seeing the redirector target cube?

Okay, maybe it doesn't.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2130 on: June 20, 2020, 11:54:36 pm »

to clarify my question- how would redirecting make sense with glooble getting an alerter and with Lalight not seeing the redirector target cube?

Okay, maybe it doesn't.

are you willing to state for the record that you watched cube?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2131 on: June 20, 2020, 11:56:28 pm »

to clarify my question- how would redirecting make sense with glooble getting an alerter and with Lalight not seeing the redirector target cube?

Okay, maybe it doesn't.

are you willing to state for the record that you watched cube?

No.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2132 on: June 20, 2020, 11:56:44 pm »

I hope everyone else was right and I was wrong.  It if Joth does flip town, we probably go for LaLight tomorrow? And if Joth flips scum we should go for cube.

why cube over Faust?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (PMs sent!)
« Reply #2133 on: June 21, 2020, 03:04:16 am »

You do not agree with my quest. I understand that, so much as it is possible to understand someone with whom I disagree so completely.

Final Vote Count


hypercube (2): Uncleeurope, Swowl
jotheonah (9): faust, Galzria, chairs, LaLight, Rhand, Dylan32, hypercube, scolapasta, MiX
LaLight (2): jotheonah, Glooble

Not Voting (3): GreatHallScout, Jimmmmm, WestCoastDidds

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Twilight starts now and will last 6 hours or until all players have checked in, whichever comes first. Any post in the main game thread or a qt constitutes a check-in.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2134 on: June 21, 2020, 03:13:57 am »

I hope everyone else was right and I was wrong.  It if Joth does flip town, we probably go for LaLight tomorrow? And if Joth flips scum we should go for cube.

why cube over Faust?
Because joth alignment inverting cube makes more sense if he's scum.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2135 on: June 21, 2020, 03:42:40 am »

I understand but hate the intentional Twilight :(

Here's hoping we nailed it again.

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2136 on: June 21, 2020, 04:14:21 am »

Okay, I think I understand most of what's going on with the claims.

My evidence supports LaLight's claim (that joth targeted cube) over joth's claim (that he targeted faust).

So either joth is lying or he was redirected. If he's Town then his Town result should be taken to be on cube.

can you explain why it should be on cube?


to clarify my question- how would redirecting make sense with glooble getting an alerter and with Lalight not seeing the redirector target cube?

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Does a cube/faust busdrive work in the claims?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2137 on: June 21, 2020, 04:39:12 am »

Okay, I think I understand most of what's going on with the claims.

My evidence supports LaLight's claim (that joth targeted cube) over joth's claim (that he targeted faust).

So either joth is lying or he was redirected. If he's Town then his Town result should be taken to be on cube.

can you explain why it should be on cube?


to clarify my question- how would redirecting make sense with glooble getting an alerter and with Lalight not seeing the redirector target cube?

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Does a cube/faust busdrive work in the claims?
Only if it was GHS. He's the only one to have targeted both of us.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2138 on: June 21, 2020, 04:41:41 am »

Only if it was GHS. He's the only one to have targeted both of us.
With more thinking, it doesn't really work. it would mean that joth would have been redirected to hypercube, sure, but also LaLight would have been redirected to me, so it would still not be possible for LaLight to see joth.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2139 on: June 21, 2020, 04:43:20 am »

It could work if someone also Strengthened either joth or LaLight. But that seems fairly unlikely.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2140 on: June 21, 2020, 05:40:12 am »

MiX's theory is a good one, that it could provide cover for me. It's wrong though.

My other action was to track MiX. (result: no result, which does corroborate his claim)

Both Rhand and LL can confirm this.

I am an Edgecaller.




Here's a question for joth that may have been asked, but I can't remember, why cop faust?

According to the theory, his wagon is good proof that he is town. So why not cop someone else?

I guess the case against joth is that he was trying to get towncred with Gloobie? Except that he would'nt have known he'd have that neighbhood today. So feels risky.

vote: LaLight

I confirm, that scola did Tracker and Inventor actions.

Did you see who they targeted?

no. Follower picks a person and just see what actions they performed
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2141 on: June 21, 2020, 07:31:58 am »

See I was right. I even asked for L-?, you could've seen that coming.

Joth, how many spheres of each type did you start with?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2142 on: June 21, 2020, 08:29:00 am »

I hope everyone else was right and I was wrong.  It if Joth does flip town, we probably go for LaLight tomorrow? And if Joth flips scum we should go for cube.

why cube over Faust?
Because joth alignment inverting cube makes more sense if he's scum.

I don't understand this. Are you saying that scum would invert a scum player over inverting a town player? I don't see why that would be true.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2143 on: June 21, 2020, 08:29:40 am »

It could work if someone also Strengthened either joth or LaLight. But that seems fairly unlikely.

What do you mean?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2144 on: June 21, 2020, 08:30:04 am »

I hope everyone else was right and I was wrong.  It if Joth does flip town, we probably go for LaLight tomorrow? And if Joth flips scum we should go for cube.

why cube over Faust?
Because joth alignment inverting cube makes more sense if he's scum.

I don't understand this. Are you saying that scum would invert a scum player over inverting a town player? I don't see why that would be true.

Really? Godfather's much better than framer because it's really hard to know who's getting copped.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2145 on: June 21, 2020, 08:41:13 am »

I hope everyone else was right and I was wrong.  It if Joth does flip town, we probably go for LaLight tomorrow? And if Joth flips scum we should go for cube.

why cube over Faust?
Because joth alignment inverting cube makes more sense if he's scum.

I don't understand this. Are you saying that scum would invert a scum player over inverting a town player? I don't see why that would be true.
Because it's more important for scum to go undetected than it is for them to frame a town player.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2146 on: June 21, 2020, 08:42:09 am »

It could work if someone also Strengthened either joth or LaLight. But that seems fairly unlikely.

What do you mean?
I mean the power from the Tension surge.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2147 on: June 21, 2020, 08:48:43 am »

Good morning friends!

Twilight in the morning is a weird thing...and tonight is likely not nearly as interesting because we’re all broke! Ha! But happy Sunday! Happy Father’s Day! Happy summer solstice!
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2148 on: June 21, 2020, 09:07:23 am »

It could work if someone also Strengthened either joth or LaLight. But that seems fairly unlikely.

What do you mean?
I mean the power from the Tension surge.
I don't see a scenario where that would explain what happened.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2149 on: June 21, 2020, 09:12:01 am »

It could work if someone also Strengthened either joth or LaLight. But that seems fairly unlikely.

What do you mean?
I mean the power from the Tension surge.
I don't see a scenario where that would explain what happened.
Ah, I assumed Strengthening also protects against redirection. Apparently it doesn't... so no, that wouldn't explain it.
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