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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2100 on: June 20, 2020, 04:00:16 pm »

I guess the case against joth is that he was trying to get towncred with Gloobie? Except that he would'nt have known he'd have that neighbhood today. So feels risky.
Glooble would have still seen joth targeting him if there was no neighborhood.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2101 on: June 20, 2020, 04:23:02 pm »

*sigh*

It doesn’t matter. I’m town and I’m a cop but town is so far ahead right now you can lynch me and still win. At least hem you’ll know I was telling the truth about everything.

Well that's a scumslip, cool. So what else should we do with the rest of our day?

Where's the scumslip?

"you"
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2102 on: June 20, 2020, 04:37:02 pm »

*sigh*

It doesn’t matter. I’m town and I’m a cop but town is so far ahead right now you can lynch me and still win. At least hem you’ll know I was telling the truth about everything.

Well that's a scumslip, cool. So what else should we do with the rest of our day?

Where's the scumslip?

"you"

Ha. Well, he's not voting himself.

MiX's theory is a good one, that it could provide cover for me. It's wrong though.

My other action was to track MiX. (result: no result, which does corroborate his claim)

Both Rhand and LL can confirm this.

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Here's a question for joth that may have been asked, but I can't remember, why cop faust?

According to the theory, his wagon is good proof that he is town. So why not cop someone else?

I guess the case against joth is that he was trying to get towncred with Gloobie? Except that he would'nt have known he'd have that neighbhood today. So feels risky.

vote: LaLight

Why does everyone make slips?

How do you know it's wrong? Because you're not scum?

It's definitely convenient that you saw me target no one and you said nothing about it. I'll reread D2, but such a result is a third-party slip instantly. The massclaim should be proof enough of this. In fact, I cannot withstand Trackers...I couldn't actually fakeclaim anything in this setup. There's way too many investigative results.

Cop faust as it's the safest thing to tell Glooble! Another reason is he alignment inverted him, so GHS would get "hyper and faust are of the same alignment". Cool, right?

The case against joth is that he's partners with EFHW. The fact that he's in a conflict with LL is just gravy.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2103 on: June 20, 2020, 05:20:42 pm »

Claims keep trickling in. We should probably just massclaim toMorrow at this point.

I can confirm Scola targeted MiX.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2104 on: June 20, 2020, 06:48:54 pm »

MiX's theory is a good one, that it could provide cover for me. It's wrong though.

My other action was to track MiX. (result: no result, which does corroborate his claim)

Both Rhand and LL can confirm this.

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Here's a question for joth that may have been asked, but I can't remember, why cop faust?

According to the theory, his wagon is good proof that he is town. So why not cop someone else?

I guess the case against joth is that he was trying to get towncred with Gloobie? Except that he would'nt have known he'd have that neighbhood today. So feels risky.

vote: LaLight

I confirm, that scola did Tracker and Inventor actions.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2105 on: June 20, 2020, 06:53:50 pm »

If Joth is scum, hypercube’s probably also scum, right? Jonah’s not lying about being a lightweaver, since he knew their order power. So wombat could he have been targeting hyper with other than an alignment inverter?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2106 on: June 20, 2020, 07:41:34 pm »

If Joth is scum, hypercube’s probably also scum, right? Jonah’s not lying about being a lightweaver, since he knew their order power. So wombat could he have been targeting hyper with other than an alignment inverter?

I think it would be one of Faust and cube are scum instead, because the result was those two have the same alignment, but it could be either way, so if cube was flipped we know they are opposite. Wasn't Joth the one with the town result on Faust? On mobile or I'd go look before posting this.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2107 on: June 20, 2020, 07:50:33 pm »

yes, Joth claimed he copped faust and got a town result.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2108 on: June 20, 2020, 08:48:15 pm »

Okay, I think I understand most of what's going on with the claims.

My evidence supports LaLight's claim (that joth targeted cube) over joth's claim (that he targeted faust).

So either joth is lying or he was redirected. If he's Town then his Town result should be taken to be on cube.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2109 on: June 20, 2020, 09:48:27 pm »

I might be ready to exile joth now.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2110 on: June 20, 2020, 09:52:40 pm »

I think if he was town he would be trying harder to convince me in our QT.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2111 on: June 20, 2020, 10:01:12 pm »

So, joth, then cube tomorrow?

vote: joth

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2112 on: June 20, 2020, 10:04:06 pm »

It's definitely convenient that you saw me target no one and you said nothing about it. I'll reread D2, but such a result is a third-party slip instantly. The massclaim should be proof enough of this. In fact, I cannot withstand Trackers...I couldn't actually fakeclaim anything in this setup. There's way too many investigative results.

Cop faust as it's the safest thing to tell Glooble! Another reason is he alignment inverted him, so GHS would get "hyper and faust are of the same alignment". Cool, right?

The case against joth is that he's partners with EFHW. The fact that he's in a conflict with LL is just gravy.

I didn't say anything because I still wanted to keep my role still hidden at the time.

And yeah, that's my thinking on joth claiming copping faust. But I would like to hear his reason for why he did it.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2113 on: June 20, 2020, 10:29:54 pm »

I copped faust because (1) he’s a very good player who I have a hard time reading, (2) his info was going to tell us a lot because of the hyper connection and (3) knowing there were potentially a lot of investigative roles I was trying to avoid overlap by picking someone less obvious.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2114 on: June 20, 2020, 10:31:55 pm »

Vote: joth

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2115 on: June 20, 2020, 10:32:47 pm »

I think if he was town he would be trying harder to convince me in our QT.

I thought you were the one person I didn’t have to convince.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2116 on: June 20, 2020, 10:33:22 pm »

Vote: joth

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Good night everyone!

I think I’m still at L-1?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2117 on: June 20, 2020, 10:37:10 pm »

Intent to hammer Joth in the morning.



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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (PMs sent!)
« Reply #2118 on: June 20, 2020, 10:54:02 pm »

Vote Count 2.Dylan

hypercube (2): Uncleeurope, Swowl
GreatHallScout (3): hypercube, scolapasta, Rhand
jotheonah (4): faust, Galzria, chairs, LaLight
WestCoastDidds (1): Glooble
LaLight (1): Jotheonah

Not Voting (5): Dylan32, GreatHallScout, Jimmmmm, WestCoastDidds, MiX

Assuming this was correct...

Vote: Joth

Vote: Joth

vote: joth

vote: joth

Vote: joth

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2119 on: June 20, 2020, 10:57:48 pm »

I hope everyone else was right and I was wrong.  It if Joth does flip town, we probably go for LaLight tomorrow? And if Joth flips scum we should go for cube.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2120 on: June 20, 2020, 10:58:51 pm »

Welp, I was town. Good job guys. Exile LaLight tomorrow.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2121 on: June 20, 2020, 11:16:36 pm »

@scolapasta why not give an alerter or the good painrail thing to glooble? why a qt? seems odd to me.

Also, I assume you meant elsecaller.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2122 on: June 20, 2020, 11:18:32 pm »

MiX's theory is a good one, that it could provide cover for me. It's wrong though.

My other action was to track MiX. (result: no result, which does corroborate his claim)

Both Rhand and LL can confirm this.

I am an Edgecaller.




Here's a question for joth that may have been asked, but I can't remember, why cop faust?

According to the theory, his wagon is good proof that he is town. So why not cop someone else?

I guess the case against joth is that he was trying to get towncred with Gloobie? Except that he would'nt have known he'd have that neighbhood today. So feels risky.

vote: LaLight

I confirm, that scola did Tracker and Inventor actions.

Did you see who they targeted?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2123 on: June 20, 2020, 11:29:16 pm »

@scolapasta why not give an alerter or the good painrail thing to glooble? why a qt? seems odd to me.

Also, I assume you meant elsecaller.

Yes, I meant Elsecaller. I didn't do the good painrail because docsot is stronger and should have saved him.

Alerter also makes sense, but I thought having a QT to talk with someone who I thought was town for coordination was better.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #2124 on: June 20, 2020, 11:33:40 pm »

wait. if a scum!lightweaver hid behind joth and alignment inverted hypercube, doesn't it explain how joth maybe town?

From the way it sounds I would be surprised that someone would have enough starlight for that. 30 for inverting and "a lot" for the mod-hider.
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