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[jotheonah]

*lightweaver

[jotheonah]

The Lightweaver Order special power might be relavent here. It’s not just a hider, it’s a modified hider. We can disguise ourselves as another player and attempts to target us target the player we disguise ourselves instead.

You should know if it's relevant or not. Did you target Didds?

I didn’t use it. It costs a lot of stormlight that I wanted to save for investigations.

[jotheonah]

I fullclaimed to Didds at the start of the day in the QT. My suggestion, btw. All I did last night was cop faust and give Glooble the Alerter.

[MiX]

joth wasn't redirected, or otherwise LaLight would have seen the redirector target hypercube.

Unless they were a Ninja?

Which order has redirection?

EFHW claimed that Willshapers did.

Willshapers don't have Ninja.

The Lightweaver Order special power might be relavent here. It’s not just a hider, it’s a modified hider. We can disguise ourselves as another player and attempts to target us target the player we disguise ourselves instead.

So if hyper is a Lightweaver who lied about his order, that could explain the redirect. That seems really unlikely because of he and Faust’s QT though.

The other reason I mention that power is that I find it suspicious that when Didds was asked about our order’s special power she just said “Hider”. Why does town need to keep the rest of that role to themselves? I definitely understand why scum would.

Unfortunately I couldn’t point it out at the time without claiming.

Okay so let's see what happened:

You copped faust and gave Glooble the Alerter. Someone else independently neighborhooded the bros, which means Glooble knows who they are as he has the Alerter. Then you give Glooble your Cop info.

In a seperate world, LL watches hypercube, and sees you (and who else? I forgot). Is this everything that has been challenged?

I fullclaimed to Didds at the start of the day in the QT. My suggestion, btw. All I did last night was cop faust and give Glooble the Alerter.

How?

[hypercube]

OK, so there's no possible way joth was redirected on to me then.

[MiX]

Unvote

Let's play town for a bit.

Tell me more theories about how joth and LL could both be town. Otherwise I'm just gonna vote either of them, and I suspect so will town.

[jotheonah]

I fullclaimed to Didds at the start of the day in the QT. My suggestion, btw. All I did last night was cop faust and give Glooble the Alerter.

Obviously I mean to Glooble not to Didds. Sorry, very much pre-coffee!

[hypercube]

Unvote

Let's play town for a bit.

Tell me more theories about how joth and LL could both be town. Otherwise I'm just gonna vote either of them, and I suspect so will town.

I don't think there's any way, unless one of them is town and lying.

[MiX]

I fullclaimed to Didds at the start of the day in the QT. My suggestion, btw. All I did last night was cop faust and give Glooble the Alerter.

Obviously I mean to Glooble not to Didds. Sorry, very much pre-coffee!

Then this makes no sense. It's scummier to do things without the IC telling you to do them than not.

Unvote

Let's play town for a bit.

Tell me more theories about how joth and LL could both be town. Otherwise I'm just gonna vote either of them, and I suspect so will town.

I don't think there's any way, unless one of them is town and lying.

That's lazy, there has to be a way.

Do you remember every investigative action performed today? Who was watched? Who was tracked?

So far I have:

LaLight watches hypercube
faust watches
hypercube watches Eddie and is roleblocked
Glooble watches themselves

Feels incomplete.

[hypercube]

Or, I suppose EFHW could have been lying about being a redirector and a ninja redirector is possible, but that seems unlikely.

[hypercube]

Do you remember every investigative action performed today? Who was watched? Who was tracked?

So far I have:

LaLight watches hypercube
faust watches
hypercube watches Eddie and is roleblocked
Glooble watches themselves

Feels incomplete.

Rhand watches you, no-one has claimed tracker yet.

[Glooble]

 Joth did full claim to me at the start of the day, including order power.

[MiX]

Do inventors know what their things do?

[LaLight]

You should definitely believe that I am a light caller regardless of my alignment. So I am a cop who has a QT with the IC for the rest of the day. I also have sufficient storm light to cop again, even without a high storm. And I’m perfectly willing to let Glooble direct my night actions. So there is a lot of extra downside to lynching me tonight, above and beyond the fact that I’m town.

Vote: LaLight

so, what's the upside to lynch me?

also you can always lie about the results. or even tell the truth - you know the alignments.

[MiX]

You should definitely believe that I am a light caller regardless of my alignment. So I am a cop who has a QT with the IC for the rest of the day. I also have sufficient storm light to cop again, even without a high storm. And I’m perfectly willing to let Glooble direct my night actions. So there is a lot of extra downside to lynching me tonight, above and beyond the fact that I’m town.

Vote: LaLight

so, what's the upside to lynch me?

also you can always lie about the results. or even tell the truth - you know the alignments.

If you flip town then we get to lynch joth.

Do you have enough stormlight to watch? Don't answer this, I'm not town, sometimes I forget.

[jotheonah]

You should definitely believe that I am a light caller regardless of my alignment. So I am a cop who has a QT with the IC for the rest of the day. I also have sufficient storm light to cop again, even without a high storm. And I’m perfectly willing to let Glooble direct my night actions. So there is a lot of extra downside to lynching me tonight, above and beyond the fact that I’m town.

Vote: LaLight

so, what's the upside to lynch me?

also you can always lie about the results. or even tell the truth - you know the alignments.

In fact I don’t. But fine, keep me alive for a night, lynch me tomorrow. If I’m scum, my investigations don’t tell you much (though it still forces me to give a result which is not great for scum). But if I flip town, which I will, you’ll have enough results to basically solve the game probably.

Uh and the upside to lynching you is you’re probably scum.

[LaLight]

You should definitely believe that I am a light caller regardless of my alignment. So I am a cop who has a QT with the IC for the rest of the day. I also have sufficient storm light to cop again, even without a high storm. And I’m perfectly willing to let Glooble direct my night actions. So there is a lot of extra downside to lynching me tonight, above and beyond the fact that I’m town.

Vote: LaLight

so, what's the upside to lynch me?

also you can always lie about the results. or even tell the truth - you know the alignments.

In fact I don’t. But fine, keep me alive for a night, lynch me tomorrow. If I’m scum, my investigations don’t tell you much (though it still forces me to give a result which is not great for scum). But if I flip town, which I will, you’ll have enough results to basically solve the game probably.

Uh and the upside to lynching you is you’re probably scum.

your investigation result will be the one you want us to know, so it is not helpful at all.

[faust]

It's joth. We get rid of him, we get rid of hypercube, we'lll be in a pretty decent position.

I feel sorry for the scum team.

[MiX]

It's joth. We get rid of him, we get rid of hypercube, we'lll be in a pretty decent position.

I feel sorry for the scum team.

I still don't understand why hypercube is scum.

Don't forget, I'm here to ash hammer. Just gotta give me an opportunity.

[WestCoastDidds]

The Lightweaver Order special power might be relavent here. It’s not just a hider, it’s a modified hider. We can disguise ourselves as another player and attempts to target us target the player we disguise ourselves instead.

So if hyper is a Lightweaver who lied about his order, that could explain the redirect. That seems really unlikely because of he and Faust’s QT though.

The other reason I mention that power is that I find it suspicious that when Didds was asked about our order’s special power she just said “Hider”. Why does town need to keep the rest of that role to themselves? I definitely understand why scum would.

Unfortunately I couldn’t point it out at the time without claiming.

Two reasons....when faust asked the question, I was being asked to reveal things about the Lightweavers that hadn’t previously been shared and I was wary of doing so, especially because I was being questioned about a result on me that wasn’t true (turns out it was an error). I wanted to provide enough information that it could be verified, but not so much that scum would know everything. I also didn’t realize that it could skew results as you’ve detailed....perhaps not surprisingly I have no experience with this kind of role and thought it too expensive to use so I didn’t think about it too carefully

Other reason was I was on my phone and just answered quickly

[WestCoastDidds]

I fullclaimed to Didds at the start of the day in the QT. My suggestion, btw. All I did last night was cop faust and give Glooble the Alerter.

Huh? Typo, maybe? Because no, you didn’t.

[WestCoastDidds]

I fullclaimed to Didds at the start of the day in the QT. My suggestion, btw. All I did last night was cop faust and give Glooble the Alerter.

Huh? Typo, maybe? Because no, you didn’t.

See it now, sorry for not reading first

[MiX]

I fullclaimed to Didds at the start of the day in the QT. My suggestion, btw. All I did last night was cop faust and give Glooble the Alerter.

Huh? Typo, maybe? Because no, you didn’t.

I fullclaimed to Didds at the start of the day in the QT. My suggestion, btw. All I did last night was cop faust and give Glooble the Alerter.

Obviously I mean to Glooble not to Didds. Sorry, very much pre-coffee!

PPE: Town!me would've deleted this post. Third-party me doesn't care at all!

I think this is the first time I've been non-SK third-party. I love/hate it.

[WestCoastDidds]

Do inventors know what their things do?

Yes....we have 4 choices, and we have 2 of each available but can only give one per night. It’s not as pricey as the cop action.
Give a qt to 2 people
Delay a kill by a day and night
Give someone a weak modifier...if they target someone non town they die
Tell someone who targeted them at night

[MiX]

Do inventors know what their things do?

Yes....we have 4 choices, and we have 2 of each available but can only give one per night. It’s not as pricey as the cop action.
Give a qt to 2 people
Delay a kill by a day and night
Give someone a weak modifier...if they target someone non town they die
Tell someone who targeted them at night

Gee, thanks past-me for not trying to fakeclaim this. That's fairly different from the surge power in the setup post.

Thanks for this information, I'm sure it was both pro-town and anti-town.