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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1625 on: June 15, 2020, 12:43:08 pm »

That doesn't work like that and you know it.

Why would it be unlikely?

What doesn't work like what and I know what?

As for the second question, we know there were 17 people alive last night. So we're talking about the chances that out of all the people in town chairs happened to cop a scum. That's already prima facie unlikely -- he had a 3 in 17 chance (assuming 4 scum). But for the inverter theory to work, we now have to assume that Alignment-Inverting scum chose MiX out of all their choices to invert -- a 1 in 14 chance. And you're saying we live in the world where both of those things happened. It's totally possible, but 235 times out of 238 it just doesn't line up that way. And I know there are possibly multiples of everything, but whatever assumptions you make you're stuck with the fundamental truth that an Alignment Inverter and a cop happened to pick the same person. And MiX frankly isn't even in the top 3 of people I would have chosen to investigate.

It doesn't work like that because of the alignment inverters.

chairs has made a claim of townslipping and hasn't actually came through. That for me says he's scum. The scum result's a bonus.

chairs could've known 2 people targeted me, and thus with Rhand's claim he can easily claim this happened.

How could he have known that?

(also why are cube and squire faust town?)


By 2 scum targeting me.

chairs could've known 2 people targeted me, and thus with Rhand's claim he can easily claim this happened.

How could he have known that?

(also why are cube and squire faust town?)


Because they were the counterwagons to EFHW's wagon.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1626 on: June 15, 2020, 12:43:37 pm »

That doesn't work like that and you know it.

Why would it be unlikely?

What doesn't work like what and I know what?

As for the second question, we know there were 17 people alive last night. So we're talking about the chances that out of all the people in town chairs happened to cop a scum. That's already prima facie unlikely -- he had a 3 in 17 chance (assuming 4 scum). But for the inverter theory to work, we now have to assume that Alignment-Inverting scum chose MiX out of all their choices to invert -- a 1 in 14 chance. And you're saying we live in the world where both of those things happened. It's totally possible, but 235 times out of 238 it just doesn't line up that way. And I know there are possibly multiples of everything, but whatever assumptions you make you're stuck with the fundamental truth that an Alignment Inverter and a cop happened to pick the same person. And MiX frankly isn't even in the top 3 of people I would have chosen to investigate.
This is bad logic. We already know that we are in the world where chairs targeted MiX (unless you think he's lying in which case uh you probably shouldn't be voting for MiX). You also assume that there is only one scum Alignment-inverter.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1627 on: June 15, 2020, 12:44:38 pm »

wait, 3 in 16, and 1 in 15, I forgot to exclude people targeting themselves, but that's largely beside the point.

er 1 in 13

Did you...what...did you count scum!self twice when doing the 1 in 13 math?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1628 on: June 15, 2020, 12:46:27 pm »

Because they were the counterwagons to EFHW's wagon.

why can't counterwagons also be scum? I still think scum is MiX and at least one of {faust, cube, rhand}.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1629 on: June 15, 2020, 12:46:38 pm »

I'm phone posting so it is hard for me to go back to where I felt the breadcrumb turned into a slip but I don't feel that I "didn't come through" - I gave what information I can without spending more time than I have.

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1630 on: June 15, 2020, 12:46:56 pm »

It really won't be surprising to find a scum between MiX and chairs.

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1631 on: June 15, 2020, 12:48:27 pm »

Cube voting for mix makes me feel less good about it  :-\

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1632 on: June 15, 2020, 12:49:57 pm »

It really won't be surprising to find a scum between MiX and chairs.

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I'm phone posting so it is hard for me to go back to where I felt the breadcrumb turned into a slip but I don't feel that I "didn't come through" - I gave what information I can without spending more time than I have.

Fine, I believe you are town.

I am a survivor and if I said anything more you wouldn't believe me.

I have claimed as such to Uncle when I got to him and made the hood QT into a makeshift third-party masonry.

We've killed scum, there's no reason to lynch me.

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1633 on: June 15, 2020, 12:51:55 pm »

I was the person that Uncle was in contact with which we couldn't account for: specifically I was in the hood when Dylan said whoever fullclaimed to him gave Uncle their win condition. So, I fullclaimed to Uncle. He knows absolutely everything I do. He has been lying about me to Glooble, as you can see you can't trust him. Uncle was unaccounted for at night, and is in the hood with me as we speak.

We need a highstorm.

Third-party AMA.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1634 on: June 15, 2020, 12:52:38 pm »

Third-party AMA.

Why shouldn't we lynch you?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1635 on: June 15, 2020, 12:53:09 pm »

Third-party AMA.

Why shouldn't we lynch you?

I'm fairly certain town's win condition is to kill all threats to town. I'm not a threat to town.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1636 on: June 15, 2020, 12:55:54 pm »

Third-party AMA.

Why shouldn't we lynch you?

I'm fairly certain town's win condition is to kill all threats to town. I'm not a threat to town.

Why should we believe your claim?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1637 on: June 15, 2020, 12:56:19 pm »

You're a survivor AND a knight?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1638 on: June 15, 2020, 12:57:24 pm »

Third-party AMA.

Why shouldn't we lynch you?

I'm fairly certain town's win condition is to kill all threats to town. I'm not a threat to town.

Why should we believe your claim?

Because it's pretty convoluted. Also I'm not in an order. Also Uncle can vouch for everything I claim here.

You're a survivor AND a knight?

No, I'm a Singer in slaveform.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1639 on: June 15, 2020, 12:58:28 pm »

Yet you claimed D1 to have Surge powers and an order specific power, yes?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1640 on: June 15, 2020, 12:59:09 pm »

Ok, frustrating thing about being an IC in this game- everyone trusts you with their piece of the puzzle but you can’t trust anyone else to help you put them all together.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1641 on: June 15, 2020, 01:00:39 pm »

Yet you claimed D1 to have Surge powers and an order specific power, yes?

Yes. I was planning to fakeclaim Edgedancer if we did a massclaim. Every little slip I did was to this goal.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1642 on: June 15, 2020, 01:01:31 pm »

Third-party AMA.

Why shouldn't we lynch you?

I'm fairly certain town's win condition is to kill all threats to town. I'm not a threat to town.

Why should we believe your claim?

Because it's pretty convoluted. Also I'm not in an order. Also Uncle can vouch for everything I claim here.

It doesn't seem that convoluted so far to me. I don't see why you didn't just full claim.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1643 on: June 15, 2020, 01:01:39 pm »

MiX-

Did you full claim to Eddie before Glooble? Does he share your wincon?

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1644 on: June 15, 2020, 01:03:10 pm »

MiX-

Did you full claim to Eddie before Glooble? Does he share your wincon?



No, he's a survivor. This all originated with something he said in bard speak that Dylan misinterpreted. He's a survivor and has claimed as such to Glooble.

It doesn't seem that convoluted so far to me. I don't see why you didn't just full claim.

I'm getting around to that, I don't think it's pro-me to say everything immediately, I would rather have this questioning.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1645 on: June 15, 2020, 01:03:36 pm »

MiX-

Did you full claim to Eddie before Glooble? Does he share your wincon?

Well, yes, he does, but it's a mere coincidence, lol.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1646 on: June 15, 2020, 01:10:45 pm »

MiX-

Did you full claim to Eddie before Glooble? Does he share your wincon?



No, he's a survivor. This all originated with something he said in bard speak that Dylan misinterpreted. He's a survivor and has claimed as such to Glooble.

It doesn't seem that convoluted so far to me. I don't see why you didn't just full claim.

I'm getting around to that, I don't think it's pro-me to say everything immediately, I would rather have this questioning.

Well, I don't think it's pro-town to give you more time to figure out your claim.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1647 on: June 15, 2020, 01:15:07 pm »

MiX-

Did you full claim to Eddie before Glooble? Does he share your wincon?



No, he's a survivor. This all originated with something he said in bard speak that Dylan misinterpreted. He's a survivor and has claimed as such to Glooble.

It doesn't seem that convoluted so far to me. I don't see why you didn't just full claim.

I'm getting around to that, I don't think it's pro-me to say everything immediately, I would rather have this questioning.

Well, I don't think it's pro-town to give you more time to figure out your claim.

I claimed everything to Uncle already. But fine.

As I said I'm a Singer in slaveform. During a highstorm, I can choose to change my form to nimbleform, warform or stormform. Given the flavor I read, nimbleform feels like survivor-y, warform some sort of SK maybe, and stormform traitor or SK. After this I will gain role powers.

I have 20 dun spheres.

There, that's my fullclaim.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1648 on: June 15, 2020, 01:17:05 pm »

Of course I forgot about the most meaningless thing about my fakeclaim: I'm a Parshman.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1649 on: June 15, 2020, 01:17:15 pm »

MiX-

Did you full claim to Eddie before Glooble? Does he share your wincon?



Why would we want to keep this role alive?

No, he's a survivor. This all originated with something he said in bard speak that Dylan misinterpreted. He's a survivor and has claimed as such to Glooble.

It doesn't seem that convoluted so far to me. I don't see why you didn't just full claim.

I'm getting around to that, I don't think it's pro-me to say everything immediately, I would rather have this questioning.

Well, I don't think it's pro-town to give you more time to figure out your claim.

I claimed everything to Uncle already. But fine.

As I said I'm a Singer in slaveform. During a highstorm, I can choose to change my form to nimbleform, warform or stormform. Given the flavor I read, nimbleform feels like survivor-y, warform some sort of SK maybe, and stormform traitor or SK. After this I will gain role powers.

I have 20 dun spheres.

There, that's my fullclaim.
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