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[Glooble]

The sphere protection program.

[cayvie]

Dustbringers can compose a message up to 500 characters that the mod will include in bold in their next post. If I had been on and seen Faust's post before more people had already went along with the plan, I'd have pushed back against it. As it is, I would have been able to tell if people lied once they fake claimed it once they couldn't actually use this ability. I guess it would have been hard to communicate that without claiming anyway, so I don't know. I'm pretty salty and don't think people would have gone along with that if anyone other than Faust proposed it... Also, there are 2 surges that give access to the vig surge and to the ninja/drain surge. Why not just have all 3 surges claim. I get that ninja vig would be really bad, but it takes quite a few spheres to do each, and it would likely take long enough to have both available the same night (including having to steal) that it wasn't likely to happen, at the very least not for a few days.

This was a contradiction when I saw it and it's a contradiction now.

Dylan what's your win condition?

Vote: Dylan

I don't see what you see as a contradiction. I did say surge when I meant order, but if I had used the right word, then there was no contradiction there.

But there's no "ninja/drain" surge. There's a vig/drain surge, and a ninja surge. And a Dustbringer would know that.

Wait, you think Dylan is lying about being a dust bringer?

[Dylan32]

The sphere protection program.

Well if that's the case, he was still assuming the number of spheres that I have and implying based on that (incorrect) assumption, that I didn't do the only reasonable thing. Well, so many of his assumptions that I laid out were wrong that his conclusions are also very wrong. I won't say more because doing so gives scum too much info about me.

[MiX]

What I called a contradiction is actually proof Dylan's town. I rest my case.

Vote: hypercube

[MiX]

The sphere protection program.

Well if that's the case, he was still assuming the number of spheres that I have and implying based on that (incorrect) assumption, that I didn't do the only reasonable thing. Well, so many of his assumptions that I laid out were wrong that his conclusions are also very wrong. I won't say more because doing so gives scum too much info about me.

I just assumed the reporter ability cost 15 for...some reason. That muddied my conclusions. Using the Reporter ability is now NAI instead of just a bad play regardless of alignment.

What I was saying is that by spending 15 spheres you would be signaling you couldn't vig, because if you could vig then you wouldn't spent 15 spheres. Obviously this is wrong if it costs less.

[Dylan32]

To circle back to a different topic, people (maybe faust) made comments like there's no pro-town reason to not claim to Eddie, even if it's a claim, die, replaced scenario. There is.

Eddie said he gets the wincon of the claimer, he didn't say anything about the abilities. In fact I think it's unlikely that he would start the game as not a knight radiant and then become one later, even if he does kill the person who claims to take their spot. So taking a town-controlled kill out of the game would not be pro-town, and thus is a good reason for me NOT to be the person that recruits Eddie.

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[Dylan32]

The sphere protection program.

Well if that's the case, he was still assuming the number of spheres that I have and implying based on that (incorrect) assumption, that I didn't do the only reasonable thing. Well, so many of his assumptions that I laid out were wrong that his conclusions are also very wrong. I won't say more because doing so gives scum too much info about me.

I just assumed the reporter ability cost 15 for...some reason. That muddied my conclusions. Using the Reporter ability is now NAI instead of just a bad play regardless of alignment.

What I was saying is that by spending 15 spheres you would be signaling you couldn't vig, because if you could vig then you wouldn't spent 15 spheres. Obviously this is wrong if it costs less.

Understatement of the game haha

[Dylan32]

Actually, with the thieving service (which is a phrase that doesn't appear in any public descriptions or flavor), I think that's actually a scum slip and Vote: MiX

He was pretty clearly talking about the protection service.

I was busy replying to content a second ago and just realized, this is some nice white knighting you're doing here.

[MiX]

To circle back to a different topic, people (maybe faust) made comments like there's no pro-town reason to not claim to Eddie, even if it's a claim, die, replaced scenario. There is.

Eddie said he gets the wincon of the claimer, he didn't say anything about the abilities. In fact I think it's unlikely that he would start the game as not a knight radiant and then become one later, even if he does kill the person who claims to take their spot. So taking a town-controlled kill out of the game would not be pro-town, and thus is a good reason for me NOT to be the person that recruits Eddie.

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Really? My first assumption was that he was a Squire.

Actually, with the thieving service (which is a phrase that doesn't appear in any public descriptions or flavor), I think that's actually a scum slip and Vote: MiX

He was pretty clearly talking about the protection service.

I was busy replying to content a second ago and just realized, this is some nice white knighting you're doing here.

Gimme a break, people trying to understand what I mean is NAI. I'm pretty confusing.

[Jimmmmm]

faust

There are a lot more note-worthy posts here than for other re-reads. I have them saved if I need to use them down the track, but I'm not going to use them now; I'll just give my overall thoughts.


I'd like to know why faust is scumreading and calling for votes on EFHW. Is that still a thing?

I'm not convinced that the Dustbringer thing was pro-Town, but I don't think it makes faust scummy.

faust's feeling on Galz, cayvie and the GHS wagon are somewhat similar to mine.

I need to better understand the whole Eddie/Dylan thing.


Overall I would put faust as moderately Towny. I'm not sure I would ever fully trust him because I think he's more than capable of seeming very Towny as scum, but I'm not interesting in lynching him Today.

[Glooble]

MiX, I don’t follow your sudden change of heart on Dylan.

[Glooble]

To circle back to a different topic, people (maybe faust) made comments like there's no pro-town reason to not claim to Eddie, even if it's a claim, die, replaced scenario. There is.

Eddie said he gets the wincon of the claimer, he didn't say anything about the abilities. In fact I think it's unlikely that he would start the game as not a knight radiant and then become one later, even if he does kill the person who claims to take their spot. So taking a town-controlled kill out of the game would not be pro-town, and thus is a good reason for me NOT to be the person that recruits Eddie.

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This is what I was trying to say earlier.

[MiX]

MiX, I don’t follow your sudden change of heart on Dylan.

Without a mechanical result on Dylan, which I tried to find and failed, I think he's townie for using 5 stormlight to do nothing. As town he has no use for it, as scum he might.

[Dylan32]

MiX, I don’t follow your sudden change of heart on Dylan.

My guess is that he realized I was right that a real dustbringer is more likely to make the specific mistake he saw than someone who was lying about it.

[Dylan32]

MiX, I don’t follow your sudden change of heart on Dylan.

My guess is that he realized I was right that a real dustbringer is more likely to make the specific mistake he saw than someone who was lying about it.

Or not. I wonder how your last post showed up without me seeing a ppe

[MiX]

MiX, I don’t follow your sudden change of heart on Dylan.

My guess is that he realized I was right that a real dustbringer is more likely to make the specific mistake he saw than someone who was lying about it.

I mean, yes, and then I realized there can be scum dustbringers...then I came up with the reasoning I gave Glooble. I was townreading you before, so after my accusations are proven to be baseless I still think you're town. Overall the way you defended yourself was NAI, sadly.

[Glooble]

Ok I’m also going back to

Vote: hypercube

[EFHW]

Have we heard from Eddie about Dylan's report on their QT? I'd like to hear what he has to say about it.

I'm very confused about Dylan saying he didn't full claim to Eddie. What is left to claim? Was there more Eddie wanted included?

Someone just suggested Eddie could be a squire. That's a good idea, but I think it's pretty clear he is Wit. I said as much and Eddie confirmed it. Wit is the king's insulter in chief. In the books he is pretty clearly aligned with good and I wouldn't expect him to have nefarious powers. Maybe Wit is his fake-claim and that's the reason for all the rhyming?

[EFHW]

Eddie did the QT thing two times. Who did he contact the first time around?

[MiX]

Have we heard from Eddie about Dylan's report on their QT? I'd like to hear what he has to say about it.

I'm very confused about Dylan saying he didn't full claim to Eddie. What is left to claim? Was there more Eddie wanted included?

Someone just suggested Eddie could be a squire. That's a good idea, but I think it's pretty clear he is Wit. I said as much and Eddie confirmed it. Wit is the king's insulter in chief. In the books he is pretty clearly aligned with good and I wouldn't expect him to have nefarious powers. Maybe Wit is his fake-claim and that's the reason for all the rhyming?

I'm fairly certain he denied it...although I would have to go back and check. We don't actually know much about his powers, so he could be faking that he's a bard.

Eddie did the QT thing two times. Who did he contact the first time around?

Me.

[MiX]

Nice details mail-mi!

Sounds like Eddie is claiming Wit, a mysterious fellow who also goes by Hoid and appears in all the cosmere books, not just this series.

vote: joth. No lynch seems bad for town and his reasons were strange.

The little man gave an exaggerated act of embarrassment.

"It seems that my reputation hath extended its way into your mind. Although, I must say, many of those writings approach legend more-so than fact. Primarily because I have not read them, and am making no attempt to recreate the character depicted in them."

He can still be Wit, but it seems he's denying knowing what that is.

[EFHW]

oh! Did he ask you to full claim so he could join your alignment?

PPE: I read that as a confirmation. I guess it could be interpreted either way.

[MiX]

oh! Did he ask you to full claim so he could join your alignment?

PPE: I read that as a confirmation. I guess it could be interpreted either way.

Sadly no.

Interesting. In any other circumstance I would argue endlessly how that cannot be seen as a confirmation, and yet the response is weird for someone that knows nothing.

[WestCoastDidds]

Eddie did the QT thing two times. Who did he contact the first time around?

Me. In the first 24 hours of the game day.

He asked questions, but said nothing about the information allowing him to do anything. I did not answer all of his questions because I wasn’t sure I could trust him. He said he can talk to anyone, but only one at a time.

I think there have been more targets than just me and Dylan. When he told people to check their QTs the first time,  I had already spoken with him.

[EFHW]

What did he want to know?