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[scolapasta]

I get that. This might just be my inexperience with the group (and probably just in general). It might also be my recent quarantine playing of games like Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detectives and looking for more of a Moriarty type playing games with us.

Also, my only game with y'all with Hunger Games, and look how that turned out with LaLight.

[MiX]

I get that. This might just be my inexperience with the group (and probably just in general). It might also be my recent quarantine playing of games like Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detectives and looking for more of a Moriarty type playing games with us.

Also, my only game with y'all with Hunger Games, and look how that turned out with LaLight.

Why do you think they were lynched this game?

[WestCoastDidds]

I get that. This might just be my inexperience with the group (and probably just in general). It might also be my recent quarantine playing of games like Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detectives and looking for more of a Moriarty type playing games with us.

Also, my only game with y'all with Hunger Games, and look how that turned out with LaLight.

Yeah, LaLight is a stinker and he has done that to me twice in LyLo.  I obviously have a soft spot for emotional responses.

[Swowl]

I think we are all rather done at this point... I am following Swan because I don't have much enthusiasm for anything else at the moment

vote: scola

Please do not follow Swan.

That's a request. From a friend.

Please.

What is your preference? I'm in a state of torpor, so anything, really.

Just unvote or w/e, I prefer ash but who cares.

Just don't listen to Swan. He's pushed 2 mislynches and will again. He's crazy when going unchecked, look at D3.

I just want you to trust ny judgement of Swan.

everyone is forgetting the two lynches that I successfully got behind as well here.

Also, obviously the intent was to put pressure for the claim.

Unvote

[MiX]

I was scared someone else would hammer by putting scola at L-1.

Hi Swan. Ready to lynch in the ash/MiX set yet?

[Swowl]

fair enough. yep from my pov we win or WCD is playing the most amazing skum game of the year lol.

done thinking about the game.

I am going to wait for Ash really really quick to check in before voting tho.

[WestCoastDidds]

Ha! Yeah, I do not have that in me. Definitely not now, maybe not ever.

[Swowl]

Ha! Yeah, I do not have that in me. Definitely not now, maybe not ever.

the part of me that loves you hopes your trolling the shit out of me rn lol

[A Drowned Kernel]

Vote Count 6.2

ashersky (1): MiX
MiX (1): ashersky

Not Voting (4): Dylan32, scolapasta, WestCoastDidds, DatSwan

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch. Day Six ends at 12 am forum time May 11th.

[WestCoastDidds]

Both you and MiX, respecting a level of gameplay that I’ve not yet achieved. It’s much appreciated, but entirely unfounded. #goals

And when I do fool you so profoundly, I’m making this my signature:

The part of me that loves you hopes you’re trolling the shit out of me rn lol

[MiX]

Both you and MiX, respecting a level of gameplay that I’ve not yet achieved. It’s much appreciated, but entirely unfounded. #goals

And when I do fool you so profoundly, I’m making this my signature:

The part of me that loves you hopes you’re trolling the shit out of me rn lol

Claiming scum O.o

The moment that quote becomes real, you're no longer the Didds I used to know.

[WestCoastDidds]

Both you and MiX, respecting a level of gameplay that I’ve not yet achieved. It’s much appreciated, but entirely unfounded. #goals

And when I do fool you so profoundly, I’m making this my signature:

The part of me that loves you hopes you’re trolling the shit out of me rn lol

Claiming scum O.o

The moment that quote becomes real, you're no longer the Didds I used to know.

Right? I just don’t think it’s in me. I’m much likely to be the sacrificial lamb and take one for the team. I just can’t see me being the genius mastermind playing it low key.

But the good news is that I am 100% authentically the Didds you know and have slowly, slowly come to appreciate. Who else would so predictably get you to throw up your hands and yell about quitting it with the oversharing?!

[MiX]

Both you and MiX, respecting a level of gameplay that I’ve not yet achieved. It’s much appreciated, but entirely unfounded. #goals

And when I do fool you so profoundly, I’m making this my signature:

The part of me that loves you hopes you’re trolling the shit out of me rn lol

Claiming scum O.o

The moment that quote becomes real, you're no longer the Didds I used to know.

Right? I just don’t think it’s in me. I’m much likely to be the sacrificial lamb and take one for the team. I just can’t see me being the genius mastermind playing it low key.

But the good news is that I am 100% authentically the Didds you know and have slowly, slowly come to appreciate. Who else would so predictably get you to throw up your hands and yell about quitting it with the oversharing?!

Double slowly hurts. Hurts because it's true.

I kinda want this game to end but I guess it's been alright. Definitely feeling better about it since scola claimed and Order is restored.

Put up on the "waiting for ash" queue.

[Swowl]

I mean... So I was waiting for Ash because of the way they worded their claim about UB.... but in reality there is no way in hell scola ever claims UB instead of VT if they are skum... so scola is town.

when does ash normally check in?

[MiX]

I mean... So I was waiting for Ash because of the way they worded their claim about UB.... but in reality there is no way in hell scola ever claims UB instead of VT if they are skum... so scola is town.

when does ash normally check in?

Yes, I caught onto that Swan. You can start by saying what your ideas are so I can say that, uh, if ash counterclaims the game is over, so your should proceed as if he's not going to.

No idea!

[ashersky]

No counterclaim from me, as I already claimed.  It was fairly clear scola was UB, wasn't it?

You all seemed fairly exasperated there for a bit.

None of that made any impact on the game.  Lynch MiX.  If you need me to make a possible scummy list of the others, I'll do it if I was somehow to be wrong.  I mean, I have my gut feels, I guess, but I'd need to reread the entire game again.

I think the handful of "ash over mix" random reads helps solidify my case against MiX, which has been laid out multiple times with multiple layers of evidence and exposition.  MiX's case on me has been a blend of WIFOM, stress, and "he's ash and good at scum" which is not a case but a prejudice.

I truly, honestly believe I am right here.  I also don't know that there's much more for me to do.  Yes, I've probably underplayed the dangers of incorrectness here, because I really want to get this right and win.  If we lynch MiX and I'm wrong, lynching me results in a loss, so I would have to go back on that promise (although you could lynch me without me anyway).  I very much don't want to lose what might be my last mafia game ever.

If people want to label me a good player, don't punish me for it.  Being good at scum doesn't make me scum.  I haven't played in years, so I haven't even had a scum alignment in years.  But I have been a town alignment in all my games since returning, including the only game to have ended.

Help me win this game.

[MiX]

No counterclaim from me, as I already claimed.  It was fairly clear scola was UB, wasn't it?

You all seemed fairly exasperated there for a bit.

None of that made any impact on the game.  Lynch MiX.  If you need me to make a possible scummy list of the others, I'll do it if I was somehow to be wrong.  I mean, I have my gut feels, I guess, but I'd need to reread the entire game again.

I think the handful of "ash over mix" random reads helps solidify my case against MiX, which has been laid out multiple times with multiple layers of evidence and exposition.  MiX's case on me has been a blend of WIFOM, stress, and "he's ash and good at scum" which is not a case but a prejudice.

I truly, honestly believe I am right here.  I also don't know that there's much more for me to do.  Yes, I've probably underplayed the dangers of incorrectness here, because I really want to get this right and win.  If we lynch MiX and I'm wrong, lynching me results in a loss, so I would have to go back on that promise (although you could lynch me without me anyway).  I very much don't want to lose what might be my last mafia game ever.

If people want to label me a good player, don't punish me for it.  Being good at scum doesn't make me scum.  I haven't played in years, so I haven't even had a scum alignment in years.  But I have been a town alignment in all my games since returning, including the only game to have ended.

Help me win this game.

It was to the trained eye, yes.

(this sentence intentionally left blank so I can answer each of yours separately)

You're right. If you're town, town should definitely lynch me.

There's no evidence, simply using my words against me. You know me better than to say those things you said must come from scum actually do. The setup lies or whatever regarding D3 is NAI. There was no need for scum!me to do so nor was I forced to do it, so how is it alignment indicative? The rest seem to just come from confirmation bias on top of this. Whereas I have a pretty solid case for you: no one else would forego 3 NKs. I don't even need that, I can also go for how cayvie didn't help scum D1, how they flipped into scumreading town shortly before leaving after having both other scum in their PoE, how you showed up D2 with saying you were scumread and you townread faust, following by his NK which is a clear ash move from the reads faust had, and how you never tried to lynch scum D3, which unlike yuma, may he rest in peace, you certainly have better reads than that. Your insistence that there was a Doctor for so long is also reaching for straws and overall misdirection and lies, and let's not forget the part where you tunneled me from D3, a day where town was focused on winning the 1v1, yet you wanted none of it. This is a real case, and it's much, much more than you have on me. The "ash over mix" comments are coming from town, how can they have any impact on either of our alignments?

I agree with this paragraph completely. Except the last sentence. Luckily for me, I don't have to consider a world where you quit mafia because of this game. That would be the worst outcome of the game of yuma's revival.

You're not playing a good scum game this...game...given you're skipping NKs. I think you underestimated how many mislynches were possible before you were next. Although I don't think you were going to win this game, so if you have a secondary objective, maybe it's been working. I presume it's to lynch me first, but obviously it doesn't have to do with me.

Help us win this game.

[MiX]

Oh boy, I just realized something.

This is essentially the kingmaker scenario of my second game all over again. Town wins instead of losing this time, but both of us want to "win", which is to say lynch the other first.

I've changed since then. Hopefully the result's different.

[WestCoastDidds]

Oh boy, I just realized something.

This is essentially the kingmaker scenario of my second game all over again. Town wins instead of losing this time, but both of us want to "win", which is to say lynch the other first.

I've changed since then. Hopefully the result's different.

The deep space nine game? That is the game I think of when I think about Ash’s scum skill. He was scum in the doomsday game later last year, too, and also won (I was watching/co-modding that game).

All good reasons that Ash should keep playing!

[Swowl]

Vote: Ash

very much hope that Ash continues to play as well.

[ashersky]

Vote: Ash

very much hope that Ash continues to play as well.

Why me?  I really fail to understand the votes other than from scum!MiX.  How am I the one that is likely to be scum here?

If I fail in this game, I definitely will see it as a sign that I definitely should not have returned.  It basically shows no personal growth as a human -- I'm still the auto-voted assumed scummy person I was when I played in the past.

I thought Hunger Games went pretty well, too.  Blip in the road I guess.

[ashersky]

I mean, I guess someone could be like "I really scumread Cayvie on D1, so sorry."

But then, you would be ignoring five full days of town!ash to lynch one day of scummy!cayvie, which seems like bad reasoning.  Plenty of players have one scummy day and are given the benefit of the doubt.

I think that's what I seem to have lost.  No one gives me the benefit of the doubt, ever.  Even in Hunger Games, very few players trusted me on faust.  Here, it's MiX who is preferred over me.

I like to think of myself as a Winger, but I guess the honest truth is I'm the Pierce Hawthorne of the group.  Or the Chang.

[ashersky]

MiX is literally the only person who's vote I understand and accept, because his is linked directly to his alignment.  Just as his willful participation in the other mislynches while supposedly only focusing on me.

It's the votes from others, who are actively choosing MiX over me, that I am not comprehending.  I mean, some of you know MiX better, so would prefer him through familiarity, or convenience, or whatever, but those are not game-related reasons to make this decision.

If you limit your scope to this game, and made a reasoned decision, I don't think the majority of you would choose MiX over me as town.

[Swowl]

I mean, I guess someone could be like "I really scumread Cayvie on D1, so sorry."

But then, you would be ignoring five full days of town!ash to lynch one day of scummy!cayvie, which seems like bad reasoning.  Plenty of players have one scummy day and are given the benefit of the doubt.

I think that's what I seem to have lost.  No one gives me the benefit of the doubt, ever.  Even in Hunger Games, very few players trusted me on faust.  Here, it's MiX who is preferred over me.

I like to think of myself as a Winger, but I guess the honest truth is I'm the Pierce Hawthorne of the group.  Or the Chang.

faust was town in hunger games.

[ashersky]

vote: ash

Screw it, good game MiX.

Remaining town, don't lynch MiX tomorrow.  Just let him win the game.  Getting a post-mortem town win here is more insulting to me than none of you believing me now.

I'm definitely done playing mafia games.

Sorry yuma.