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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #575 on: March 20, 2020, 01:42:08 pm »

i think this game in particular is proving to be a fascinating personality test.

Aren't they all?
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #576 on: March 20, 2020, 01:42:30 pm »

So, while I am still against the thought that round claim was a positive, since 13/16 already have, I'm no longer convinced that it's beneficial to hold on to it. So I'm willing to reveal - I was a 2nd rounder.
What changed your mind?

Well, again not quite changed mind. I still maintain that round claim was more positive for scum than town, so would have preferred no claim at all. However, after 13 of 16 claimed (and knowing only one of the three left was 1st round), I do think the calculus changed and that it makes more sense for town to also get the info.

I also wanted people to know I wasn't #1. Knowing I'm a 2nd rounder is supporting evidence for that.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #577 on: March 20, 2020, 01:59:19 pm »

We have heard a lot from a relatively few people it seems. Where is everyone else?
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #578 on: March 20, 2020, 02:19:56 pm »

I am #1.

That will be clear if you go back and read me asking MiX and Shraeye why they keep making assumptions about what #1 would do, when they would die, why they won't be killed N1. It is also clear because you know me and I am always town, so it makes sense that I'd be the towniest mctownerson to ever town.

Despite MiX's incredulity, I did not want to be Katniss, which is the best proof that I am town (although my guess is that he can toatlly see ME making that decision). A vig shot doesn't play to my skill set, so I was really pleased that e got it. Totally plays to his skill set.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #579 on: March 20, 2020, 02:21:40 pm »

I am #1.

That will be clear if you go back and read me asking MiX and Shraeye why they keep making assumptions about what #1 would do, when they would die, why they won't be killed N1. It is also clear because you know me and I am always town, so it makes sense that I'd be the towniest mctownerson to ever town.

Despite MiX's incredulity, I did not want to be Katniss, which is the best proof that I am town (although my guess is that he can toatlly see ME making that decision). A vig shot doesn't play to my skill set, so I was really pleased that e got it. Totally plays to his skill set.

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How much do you know about the flavor...actually don't answer. This is indeed good proof you're town.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #580 on: March 20, 2020, 02:25:03 pm »

I am #1.

That will be clear if you go back and read me asking MiX and Shraeye why they keep making assumptions about what #1 would do, when they would die, why they won't be killed N1. It is also clear because you know me and I am always town, so it makes sense that I'd be the towniest mctownerson to ever town.

Despite MiX's incredulity, I did not want to be Katniss, which is the best proof that I am town (although my guess is that he can toatlly see ME making that decision). A vig shot doesn't play to my skill set, so I was really pleased that e got it. Totally plays to his skill set.

I don't know why we were opposed to draft order, I'm sure we could've guessed this if (post restriction)

How much do you know about the flavor...actually don't answer. This is indeed good proof you're town.

Can someone explain why not wanting to be Katniss is proof of being town?
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #581 on: March 20, 2020, 02:27:07 pm »

I am #1.

That will be clear if you go back and read me asking MiX and Shraeye why they keep making assumptions about what #1 would do, when they would die, why they won't be killed N1. It is also clear because you know me and I am always town, so it makes sense that I'd be the towniest mctownerson to ever town.

Despite MiX's incredulity, I did not want to be Katniss, which is the best proof that I am town (although my guess is that he can toatlly see ME making that decision). A vig shot doesn't play to my skill set, so I was really pleased that e got it. Totally plays to his skill set.

I don't know why we were opposed to draft order, I'm sure we could've guessed this if (post restriction)

How much do you know about the flavor...actually don't answer. This is indeed good proof you're town.

Can someone explain why not wanting to be Katniss is proof of being town?

Scum really likes vig. Other than that, no, it's not proof she's town. But it helps, I think.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #582 on: March 20, 2020, 02:29:49 pm »

I don't know why we were opposed to draft order, I'm sure we could've guessed this if (post restriction)

How much do you know about the flavor...actually don't answer. This is indeed good proof you're town.

Can someone explain why not wanting to be Katniss is proof of being town?
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If I was scum, I wouldn't pass up a weapon like a bow and arrow.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #583 on: March 20, 2020, 02:31:37 pm »

Now, why Shraye is so sure that #1 would not be nightkilled right off the bat is still something we need to sort out.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #584 on: March 20, 2020, 02:55:12 pm »

Can someone explain why not wanting to be Katniss is proof of being town?

If I was scum, I wouldn't pass up a weapon like a bow and arrow.

OK, that makes sense. Though if you thought #2 would also try for bow and arrow - which in fact is what happened (or at least what e is claiming) - you might have chosen something else so as to not get shut out.

OR you wanted to be able to say that you didn't pick bow and arrow so that we would think you less likely to be scum.

(all this feels very "princess bride")

All that said, you're still on my current shortlist for being town.

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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #585 on: March 20, 2020, 03:12:20 pm »

Can someone explain why not wanting to be Katniss is proof of being town?

If I was scum, I wouldn't pass up a weapon like a bow and arrow.

OK, that makes sense. Though if you thought #2 would also try for bow and arrow - which in fact is what happened (or at least what e is claiming) - you might have chosen something else so as to not get shut out.

OR you wanted to be able to say that you didn't pick bow and arrow so that we would think you less likely to be scum.

(all this feels very "princess bride")

All that said, you're still on my current shortlist for being town.

We have a name for the princess bride feeling...WIFOM which stands for Wine In Front Of Me.  :)
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #586 on: March 20, 2020, 04:12:33 pm »

And the role conveniently provides a cover for when you're caught killing someone.
I fully believe e.  100%
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #587 on: March 20, 2020, 04:14:47 pm »

And the role conveniently provides a cover for when you're caught killing someone.
I fully believe e.  100%
You believe that he's a vig or that he's town?
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« Reply #588 on: March 20, 2020, 04:26:17 pm »

And the role conveniently provides a cover for when you're caught killing someone.
I fully believe e.  100%

is it, in your opinion, a good idea to continue claiming?

are you still certain that #1 won't be nightkilled?
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« Reply #589 on: March 20, 2020, 04:35:06 pm »

If I was scum, I wouldn't pass up a weapon like a bow and arrow.

i mean maybe you picked a weapon like trident or nightlock berries instead. there wasn't a shortage of weapons to choose from :)
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #590 on: March 20, 2020, 06:59:51 pm »

Vote Count 1.4:


E! (3): faust, Cayvie, Mail-Mi
Ashersky (2): EFHW, Glooble
LaLight (2): E!, WCD
EFHW (2): ADK, MiX
Shraeye (2): Scolapasta, RaptorSlayer
faust (1): Ashersky
Scolapasta (1): Shraeye
RaptorSlayer (1): LaLight
Mail-Mi (1): Jimmm


Not Voting (1):  Lekkit,



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« Reply #591 on: March 20, 2020, 07:04:32 pm »

Right now:

Preferred lynches: raptor, wcd, scolapasta, e, lalight, mail-mi
Neutral-ish: lekkit, jimmm, glooble, Ash, adk
Would rather not lynch: mix, faust, shraeye, EFHW
Will not lynch: cayvie

PPE, of course, the fact that 2 people I distrust are voting for lalight makes me less suspicious of him
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« Reply #592 on: March 20, 2020, 07:05:25 pm »

Right now:

Preferred lynches: raptor, wcd, scolapasta, e, lalight, mail-mi
Neutral-ish: lekkit, jimmm, glooble, Ash, adk
Would rather not lynch: mix, faust, shraeye, EFHW
Will not lynch: cayvie

PPE, of course, the fact that 2 people I distrust are voting for lalight makes me less suspicious of him

why wcd?
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #593 on: March 20, 2020, 07:07:08 pm »

vote: ash until he comes to our QT
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« Reply #594 on: March 20, 2020, 07:09:45 pm »

Right now:

Preferred lynches: raptor, wcd, scolapasta, e, lalight, mail-mi
Neutral-ish: lekkit, jimmm, glooble, Ash, adk
Would rather not lynch: mix, faust, shraeye, EFHW
Will not lynch: cayvie

PPE, of course, the fact that 2 people I distrust are voting for lalight makes me less suspicious of him

why wcd?

I'm actually curious about this as well; I have the benefit of seeing how she's been posting in our district QT but she's pretty much my top townread right now
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« Reply #595 on: March 20, 2020, 07:14:34 pm »

Right now:

Preferred lynches: raptor, wcd, scolapasta, e, lalight, mail-mi
Neutral-ish: lekkit, jimmm, glooble, Ash, adk
Would rather not lynch: mix, faust, shraeye, EFHW
Will not lynch: cayvie

PPE, of course, the fact that 2 people I distrust are voting for lalight makes me less suspicious of him

why wcd?

I'm actually curious about this as well; I have the benefit of seeing how she's been posting in our district QT but she's pretty much my top townread right now

This actually makes me feel better about her actually.

Because I'm used to (after two games) wcd just filling the thread with townie stuff. And she's not doing that here.

But if she's filling her qt with townie stuff instead, that could explain the difference
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« Reply #596 on: March 20, 2020, 07:15:17 pm »

i currently have many townreads but not very many scumreads. I need to do a reread, which I hope I can get to tonight or tomorrow.
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« Reply #597 on: March 20, 2020, 07:55:02 pm »

Right now:

Preferred lynches: raptor, wcd, scolapasta, e, lalight, mail-mi
Neutral-ish: lekkit, jimmm, glooble, Ash, adk
Would rather not lynch: mix, faust, shraeye, EFHW
Will not lynch: cayvie

PPE, of course, the fact that 2 people I distrust are voting for lalight makes me less suspicious of him

So... my list is almost opposite of yours!

Preferred lynches: faust, shraeye,, ash, lalight, mail-mi, mix
Neutral-ish: lekkit, glooble, e, adk, raptor
Would rather not lynch:, wcd, EFHW, cayvie, jimmm
Will not lynch: scolapasta

I don't specifically remember what made me put lalight, mail-mi, mix in the first group, so they might be more neutral.

Also interesting to note that my Would rather not lynch is all people I've played codenames with. Hmm....
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« Reply #598 on: March 20, 2020, 08:36:24 pm »

As a more contrete (maybe) counter to shraeye: I made guesses prior to drafting on what powers 13 of the 20 items give, and I wasn't very far off based on what I know now.

The post in question.  You said you made guesses and 13 items. You said you weren’t very far off based on what you knew at the time of posting.

I am not putting words in your mouth.  You are saying in the post above that you made guesses and then you were not “very far off” on those 13 guesses. That is what your sentences say.  Another way of saying not very far off would be “pretty close” right?

So then your explanation for how you were able to be pretty close on 13 guesses was saying you knew two items.

I am saying that is weaksauce.  How does knowing two items tell you that you were not “very far off” on 13? 

I did not put words in your mouth.  And how does this counter shraeye?  It makes his point — you can’t know for sure what any items are before getting them.  To counter that point, you need to show that players did or do know what all the items are without gaining them. I thought you were doing that by claiming to know 13 items somehow based on guesses.  The only way that works is clairvoyance, hyper intelligence, hacking, or cheating.  Or you have a greater number of data points due to your alignment or role.

So, as I’ve established not putting words in your mouth, please explain how you were so close on exactly 13, items, why only 13 and not 20, and who your scum partners are.

And no, my district mate told me his item is not an explanation for anything.  Nor is your own item, as that only confirms one out of the 13 that you clearly claim you were very close on. Please tell us how you know all 13 are very close.
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Re: RMM54: Hunger Games Mafia - Arena Opening Today!!
« Reply #599 on: March 20, 2020, 08:57:03 pm »


This actually makes me feel better about her actually.

Because I'm used to (after two games) wcd just filling the thread with townie stuff. And she's not doing that here.

But if she's filling her qt with townie stuff instead, that could explain the difference

I’m trying not to spam the thread since the game is so big and I don’t want to be annoying! Well, and there is a whole lot of nothing going on in my world right now. ADK I gets way more of the random musing in the QT. Left to my own devices, I have all kinds of questions for everyone about how they are holding up, but I don’t want to make life harder for anyone who is struggling right now. Also, funny Ashersky is awesome. I had no idea he had it in him.
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