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[EFHW]

@DatSwan,  looking for inconsistencies. ashersky would definitely have been specific about a matter of alignment. Yet the same scenario she is claiming is the one without an alignment.

I mean... no alignment + win con changes is just "survivor with non-fixed win con". I don't put that anywhere outside Ash's depth.

You are assuming things that are probably right but aren't stated. The alignment is stated for the other 3.

[EFHW]

Shraeye said actions couldn't affect him.  That could have been a lie,  but why risk it? So he could be responsible for an N1 kill.

In any cas, we have two players with questionable claims. Agree mass claim is in order.

No because as said, the very same action that got him in a QT with me also blocked him. If it didn't affect him, he would not have ended up in the QT.

Ok, but that means he made a weirdly specific claim that was very likely to be contradicted

are you referring to his "2 actions kill me" bit?
BC if it was true... and he saw green text on faust... and he was alive... he would kind of have a certainty that he was only targeted by one action. cuz alive.

He said he was immune to actions, except that 2 would kill him.

[faust]

Shraeye said actions couldn't affect him.  That could have been a lie,  but why risk it? So he could be responsible for an N1 kill.

In any cas, we have two players with questionable claims. Agree mass claim is in order.

No because as said, the very same action that got him in a QT with me also blocked him. If it didn't affect him, he would not have ended up in the QT.

same same right? like exactly one command input to the mod?

Yes.

[faust]

Shraeye said actions couldn't affect him.  That could have been a lie,  but why risk it? So he could be responsible for an N1 kill.

In any cas, we have two players with questionable claims. Agree mass claim is in order.

No because as said, the very same action that got him in a QT with me also blocked him. If it didn't affect him, he would not have ended up in the QT.

Ok, but that means he made a weirdly specific claim that was very likely to be contradicted

Yes. I'm not sure why you bring this up. It seems to be to discredit the idea that there is another killing faction out there. But then you don't offer up an alternative explanation.

[Swowl]

Shraeye said actions couldn't affect him.  That could have been a lie,  but why risk it? So he could be responsible for an N1 kill.

In any cas, we have two players with questionable claims. Agree mass claim is in order.

No because as said, the very same action that got him in a QT with me also blocked him. If it didn't affect him, he would not have ended up in the QT.

Ok, but that means he made a weirdly specific claim that was very likely to be contradicted

are you referring to his "2 actions kill me" bit?
BC if it was true... and he saw green text on faust... and he was alive... he would kind of have a certainty that he was only targeted by one action. cuz alive.

He said he was immune to actions, except that 2 would kill him.

ok yeah assuming truth in my scenario, then that does not check out you right.

[faust]

I would like to hear more about EFHW's thought process for Roleblocking mail-mi.

[Uncleeurope]

Are we still wanting me to claim here?

Does it change anyone’s mind that my power has ~0 impact on helping town win if Scum know it’s a thing? It requires scum to make certain choices, choices that they are less likely to make if they know my power.

Does it also change anyone’s mind that my role is confirmable once I use it?

As in, it is announced, and obvious?

[faust]

Are we still wanting me to claim here?

Does it change anyone’s mind that my power has ~0 impact on helping town win if Scum know it’s a thing? It requires scum to make certain choices, choices that they are less likely to make if they know my power.

Does it also change anyone’s mind that my role is confirmable once I use it?

As in, it is announced, and obvious?

Please claim.

[Uncleeurope]

Fine.

Just know that I am annoyed that my role was only helpful in niche circumstances, and now those are gone.

Tom Mason.

I’m your president, Y’all.

- Once per game I can reset the votes to everyone not voting, but only if I am voting on the largest wagon. And the wagon has to be larger than L-2.

- Once per game I can toggle on the ability to cancel a lynch, but the lynch will only be canceled if I am not voting for the person who would have died when it happens. After the cancelation occurs, everyone only gets 1 vote for the rest of the day, and then at the end of the day whoever has the most votes is lynched, redaress of the required amount of votes.

The power is expended only if the power is turned on when someone would be lynched. So I can turn it off before that happens if I change my mind.

The only use for this, as far as I was able to see, was to use the dissolving ability right as deadline to force a no-lynch, or I can trick scum into quick hammering someone and have them not die, which would let us kill them.

So now that’s not a thing.

My powers suck.

[faust]

Can you cancel your own lynch?

[Uncleeurope]

Can you cancel your own lynch?

Yup, although there is nothing stopping all players from voting for me immediately after.

Just know I plan to use those abilities to save my own life if it comes to that today.

It’s futile to try in most cases, but what else can I do?

[faust]

I’m writing down EFHW’s evilness and Pubby’s Towny-ness in my handy dandy notebook.

Why didn't you use your powers to save pubby?

[faust]

Vote: Eddie

Let's get the confirming over with.

[Uncleeurope]

I’m writing down EFHW’s evilness and Pubby’s Towny-ness in my handy dandy notebook.

Why didn't you use your powers to save pubby?

Because you all would just kill him again, or at least I had to assume that would be the case. I saw the only value in my role was getting to the final stages of the game.

Better question, why wouldn’t I save pubby as scum? I definitely would have had reason to.

[faust]

- Once per game I can reset the votes to everyone not voting, but only if I am voting on the largest wagon. And the wagon has to be larger than L-2.

Is "larger than L-2" in any way functionally different form "L-1"?

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: Eddie

Let's get the confirming over with.

I mean, sure, but why would I lie.

Which one do you want me to use? Because it impacts how I have to vote here.

[faust]

Vote: Eddie

Let's get the confirming over with.

I mean, sure, but why would I lie.

Which one do you want me to use? Because it impacts how I have to vote here.

You choose.

[Uncleeurope]

- Once per game I can reset the votes to everyone not voting, but only if I am voting on the largest wagon. And the wagon has to be larger than L-2.

Is "larger than L-2" in any way functionally different form "L-1"?

I have no idea, I just assumed it was L-1 with wording to help with Hated/Loved or something weird.

I dunno what it means.

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: Eddie

Let's get the confirming over with.

I mean, sure, but why would I lie.

Which one do you want me to use? Because it impacts how I have to vote here.

You choose.

Oh, yay, I have some player agency here.

How exciting.

Thank you, mister Faust, sir.

[Uncleeurope]

- Once per game I can reset the votes to everyone not voting, but only if I am voting on the largest wagon. And the wagon has to be larger than L-2.

Is "larger than L-2" in any way functionally different form "L-1"?

I have no idea, I just assumed it was L-1 with wording to help with Hated/Loved or something weird.

I dunno what it means.

Although I wonder if it would work after someone hammered (L-0)

I dunno.

[faust]

Although I wonder if it would work after someone hammered (L-0)

I dunno.

You didn't think about it until now?

[EFHW]

I would like to hear more about EFHW's thought process for Roleblocking mail-mi.

Nothing very profound. He was claiming to be Shraeye's hunter. So either he was telling the truth and had a killing power with non-town motivation, or he was scum with a killing power with non-town motivation.

[WestCoastDidds]

Long story short - I think there is still a red team out there. We need to massclaim. Here is the order:

Eddie
DatSwan
e
mail-mi claims what he knows about skip
Didds claims the rest of her role
skip

Okay...although timing-wise id put e before Swan since e is likely awake now and available for the next several hours, and Swan isn’t typically around for several more hours yet, and when he is e will be heading to what we sleep he gets with a tiny baby e in the house.

[faust]

I would like to hear more about EFHW's thought process for Roleblocking mail-mi.

Nothing very profound. He was claiming to be Shraeye's hunter. So either he was telling the truth and had a killing power with non-town motivation, or he was scum with a killing power with non-town motivation.

Did you think it plausible that he wasn't telling the truth?

[skip wooznum]

Are we voting eddie? vote: eddie