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[WestCoastDidds]

Space, I had something to do with that.

Did you do the good thing and the bad thing, or just the good thing, or just the bad thing?

I had something to do with the thing that will help Space with aliens, which is good for her.

[WestCoastDidds]

I flipped maroon because when I died, my win condition had not been set. It was set when I died....

So... what would have been your win condition if you hadn't died by the end of the game?

Like I said at the start, there were lots of moving parts. There were 4 different scenarios that could have set my wincon that mostly hinged on when/if/how I died

Yes, well, please go on. What were they?

I could have given up what I have space, and my revival capabilities and just been town. I thought that sounded boring.

If I had Not been killed by D5, I was just a survivor and had to stay alive.

If I was on the wagon of three town lynches, I’d become town.

If was lynched or killed, I have to avenge my death

There is another part of these scenarios that I need to check on before I share, but that is the meat of the conditions.

Space has the best evidence that my goal is to help town win.

[faust]

Here's how I see things:

We probably have another member of the Humanists out there. We have currently no evidence of a third faction with killing capabilities.

We have one non-town alien, and another non-town (mail-mi) who is by shraeye's account also probably an alien.

Seems like we could just let them fight it out.

[WestCoastDidds]

My first best guess for killerz is Eddie or EFHW

[faust]

Vote: No Lynch

[mail-mi]

If we had a town who threw up an IC on death, as well as a town that can revive themselves, then scum start way behind.

Definitely reason to still suspect Didds.

Or it’s reason to suspect a larger scum team, or that there are actually two scum teams, and we just haven’t found one of them yet.

Also, one of these days people will trust me on the EFHW business.

Also also, what was with the mail-mi pile-on after shraeye’s lynch? That weirded me out.

And the primary culprit was Skip.

Pretty sure I was arguing to switch everything to Mail-mi at the end after we'd reached L+1 on Shraeye just in case Shraeye was lynchproof, since without feedback on the lynch from the mod, it seemed prudent to try to cover all our bases before deadline hit.

Also, mail-mi is a claimed non-town with some kind of hidden agenda, isn't he?

The agenda is only mildly hidden, since it appears to me that killing Shraeye was the majority of it.

That being said, @mail-mi, can you lose still?

Yes, now I need to survive to the end of the game.

[Uncleeurope]

Here's how I see things:

We probably have another member of the Humanists out there. We have currently no evidence of a third faction with killing capabilities.

We have one non-town alien, and another non-town (mail-mi) who is by shraeye's account also probably an alien.

Seems like we could just let them fight it out.

Who has killed who each night?

[Uncleeurope]

My first best guess for killerz is Eddie or EFHW

We have a similar list. Only a few minor difference.

[faust]

Here's how I see things:

We probably have another member of the Humanists out there. We have currently no evidence of a third faction with killing capabilities.

We have one non-town alien, and another non-town (mail-mi) who is by shraeye's account also probably an alien.

Seems like we could just let them fight it out.

Who has killed who each night?

My working theory is that the Humanists have killed the people who were shot, and shraeye killed the others.

[mail-mi]

Hey I just started a new job, so my availability is gonna be lower. Just letting y'all know

[faust]

Hey I just started a new job, so my availability is gonna be lower. Just letting y'all know

You could help us out by claiming right now.

[faust]

Vote: mail-mi

No lynch is good, but lynching uncooperative non-town is gooder.

[mail-mi]

Hey I just started a new job, so my availability is gonna be lower. Just letting y'all know

You could help us out by claiming right now.

Let me claim at lunchtime, if you please.

[EFHW]

Also vote: efhw

This is becoming tiresome.  vote: mail-mi

He keeps throwing shade on me for no reason. Kind of like you, but scummier.

I don’t understand.

[EFHW]

Also vote: efhw

This is becoming tiresome.  vote: mail-mi

I don’t understand.

Quotefail. He keeps throwing shade on me for no reason. Kind of like you, but scummier.

[EFHW]

Space, I had something to do with that.

Did you do the good thing and the bad thing, or just the good thing, or just the bad thing?

I had something to do with the thing that will help Space with aliens, which is good for her.

Have you said what that is?

[EFHW]

FYI: I blocked mail-mi last night. Maybe that's the reason there was no nk.

[WestCoastDidds]

Space, I had something to do with that.

Did you do the good thing and the bad thing, or just the good thing, or just the bad thing?

I had something to do with the thing that will help Space with aliens, which is good for her.

Have you said what that is?

I have not. I will let Space say or no.

[skip wooznum]

So Didds, if I understand correctly, you have the ability to revive yourself after death, regardless of how you die, and that ability is not conditional on any other events needing to happen in the game?

Also, I'm not really buying that your wincon is as vague as "avenging your death". You must have specific concrete goal(s) that should be reached, no? You're really given no information other than "avenge your death"?

[skip wooznum]

Also in spirit I'm voting mail-mi.

[WestCoastDidds]

So Didds, if I understand correctly, you have the ability to revive yourself after death, regardless of how you die, and that ability is not conditional on any other events needing to happen in the game?

Also, I'm not really buying that your wincon is as vague as "avenging your death". You must have specific concrete goal(s) that should be reached, no? You're really given no information other than "avenge your death"?

1. It was not unconditional, and it was one-shot. I need to check on some things before I can say more about the resurrection conditions. But the gist of it is that I was shot and killed N2, and then resurrected N3. If Shraeye had been able to skip a night, my guess is that I'd have not come back today.

2. My specific, concrete goal is to see the person who killed me dead. I don't have any ability to kill other than participating in a lynch. I was not and will not be told who it was, even once they have been killed.  I have some hope that Shraeye killed me, but I am going to scum hunt in case it was someone else.

[skip wooznum]

So Didds, if I understand correctly, you have the ability to revive yourself after death, regardless of how you die, and that ability is not conditional on any other events needing to happen in the game?

Also, I'm not really buying that your wincon is as vague as "avenging your death". You must have specific concrete goal(s) that should be reached, no? You're really given no information other than "avenge your death"?

1. It was not unconditional, and it was one-shot. I need to check on some things before I can say more about the resurrection conditions. But the gist of it is that I was shot and killed N2, and then resurrected N3. If Shraeye had been able to skip a night, my guess is that I'd have not come back today.

2. My specific, concrete goal is to see the person who killed me dead. I don't have any ability to kill other than participating in a lynch. I was not and will not be told who it was, even once they have been killed.  I have some hope that Shraeye killed me, but I am going to scum hunt in case it was someone else.

So you might have already won?

[WestCoastDidds]

So Didds, if I understand correctly, you have the ability to revive yourself after death, regardless of how you die, and that ability is not conditional on any other events needing to happen in the game?

Also, I'm not really buying that your wincon is as vague as "avenging your death". You must have specific concrete goal(s) that should be reached, no? You're really given no information other than "avenge your death"?

1. It was not unconditional, and it was one-shot. I need to check on some things before I can say more about the resurrection conditions. But the gist of it is that I was shot and killed N2, and then resurrected N3. If Shraeye had been able to skip a night, my guess is that I'd have not come back today.

2. My specific, concrete goal is to see the person who killed me dead. I don't have any ability to kill other than participating in a lynch. I was not and will not be told who it was, even once they have been killed.  I have some hope that Shraeye killed me, but I am going to scum hunt in case it was someone else.

So you might have already won?

As far as I know, that is correct. I don't have to be alive when it is all over, but my killer can't be alive longer than I am.

It's a pretty weak position to be in. What I have going for me is that you all have seen my flip, you KNOW that I am not scum.  I want to lynch scum, it is my only goal.

[faust]

What I have going for me is that you all have seen my flip, you KNOW that I am not scum.  I want to lynch scum, it is my only goal.

This is evidently not true. You flipped without alignment reveal, there is no reason to suspect you're non-scum other than believing what you say.

[SpaceAnemone]

Space, I had something to do with that.

Did you do the good thing and the bad thing, or just the good thing, or just the bad thing?

I had something to do with the thing that will help Space with aliens, which is good for her.

Have you said what that is?

I have not. I will let Space say or no.

It's a type of weapon, so not something I'd really expect someone scummy to hand to an IC.