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[Swowl]

I'm not using my Last resort.  I already said that.  I'm 100% sure that's why Faust is asking me to do it.

Faust is way more interested in lynching me to justify his own play than he is in listening or understanding.

We'll skip night if nobody is voting for me at the end of day.  Can't convince Faust to back down? Then enjoy night kill(s).

why would no one have to be voting you? Is that part of the role? do you mean just if not enough people are voting you to lynch you - or like literally... zero people?

It's my own personal bar, currently set out of frustration at faust

so I am gonna kind of require a more exact answer than that please.

[Swowl]

I'm not using my Last resort.  I already said that.  I'm 100% sure that's why Faust is asking me to do it.

Faust is way more interested in lynching me to justify his own play than he is in listening or understanding.

We'll skip night if nobody is voting for me at the end of day.  Can't convince Faust to back down? Then enjoy night kill(s).

why would no one have to be voting you? Is that part of the role? do you mean just if not enough people are voting you to lynch you - or like literally... zero people?

He's setting up an excuse for when the night phase doesn't get skipped.

you think he is fabricating that ability? if there was one part of the role I 100% believed he had, it was that portion. are you not the same way?

[Swowl]

So, why EFHW?  I'm down with that, because it's not me.  But I think you're gonna get more mileage out of skip.  Possibly e, but skip is my first choice for scum

how is skip on a list without MailMi? I don't think either should be, but like the whole education thing and the way they have protected said info makes it kind of hard to put them in separate pools.

[mail-mi]

Yeah, no, skip is not scum. I still think we probably have only one yellow left, but look to Eddie/EFHW if there is a red team.

[skip wooznum]

Well there has been a lot of information about shraeye's role and I've been having difficulty sorting it all out. Contributing to the difficulty is the problem of how much to believe him and that even if I do choose to believe him, I'm still only getting a secondhand version of his role because he can only paraphrase. So I'm fairly jumbled.

@shraeye, why, exactly don't you want to shoot somebody? Just take a potshot and hope you hit your hunter. Would you shoot somebody if we threatened to lynch you otherwise?

[Swowl]

Well there has been a lot of information about shraeye's role and I've been having difficulty sorting it all out. Contributing to the difficulty is the problem of how much to believe him and that even if I do choose to believe him, I'm still only getting a secondhand version of his role because he can only paraphrase. So I'm fairly jumbled.

@shraeye, why, exactly don't you want to shoot somebody? Just take a potshot and hope you hit your hunter. Would you shoot somebody if we threatened to lynch you otherwise?

if we threaten to lynch you if you don't tell us what an education is would you tell us?

[Swowl]

the previous was meant more to prove a point in the uselessness of the question.

[skip wooznum]

But shraeye had implied that he wouldn't do it even if we threatened to lynch him. I was just clarifying if I understood him correctly.

[Swowl]

also at skip and MailMi - If you are both so damn sure that each of you are town, then why would you not follow one and other on a same wagon in this spot?

[faust]

I'm not using my Last resort.  I already said that.  I'm 100% sure that's why Faust is asking me to do it.

Faust is way more interested in lynching me to justify his own play than he is in listening or understanding.

We'll skip night if nobody is voting for me at the end of day.  Can't convince Faust to back down? Then enjoy night kill(s).

why would no one have to be voting you? Is that part of the role? do you mean just if not enough people are voting you to lynch you - or like literally... zero people?

He's setting up an excuse for when the night phase doesn't get skipped.

you think he is fabricating that ability? if there was one part of the role I 100% believed he had, it was that portion. are you not the same way?

No, I think it's all made up.

[faust]

Request prod on Space

This is all going nowhere, and has been for like 5 days. Can we get another IC to step in?

[skip wooznum]

also at skip and MailMi - If you are both so damn sure that each of you are town, then why would you not follow one and other on a same wagon in this spot?

I just want to clearly state this: I have no information suggesting mail-mi is town. I never said I did.

[Swowl]

also at skip and MailMi - If you are both so damn sure that each of you are town, then why would you not follow one and other on a same wagon in this spot?

I just want to clearly state this: I have no information suggesting mail-mi is town. I never said I did.

fair enough. taken back then I suppose. it was only one way looking back at it.

[Swowl]

shraeye - I don't think I got an answer before, and if that was intentional then... well not ok I guess I kind of want one... but what is your win con?

[shraeye]

I'm not using my Last resort.  I already said that.  I'm 100% sure that's why Faust is asking me to do it.

Faust is way more interested in lynching me to justify his own play than he is in listening or understanding.

We'll skip night if nobody is voting for me at the end of day.  Can't convince Faust to back down? Then enjoy night kill(s).

why would no one have to be voting you? Is that part of the role? do you mean just if not enough people are voting you to lynch you - or like literally... zero people?

It's my own personal bar, currently set out of frustration at faust

so I am gonna kind of require a more exact answer than that please.

Whether I do it or not is my option.  Im getting frustrated at Faust.  Because of that I don't feel like doing it unless y'all can convince him to dismount this horse.

[shraeye]

shraeye - I don't think I got an answer before, and if that was intentional then... well not ok I guess I kind of want one... but what is your win con?

It's in my second big post from yesterday.  Phone quoting sucks.  #1523 I think?

[shraeye]

Yeah, no, skip is not scum. I still think we probably have only one yellow left, but look to Eddie/EFHW if there is a red team.

Even though Eddie's been harping on EFHW all day?

[Swowl]

shraeye - I don't think I got an answer before, and if that was intentional then... well not ok I guess I kind of want one... but what is your win con?

It's in my second big post from yesterday.  Phone quoting sucks.  #1523 I think?

ah yeah got it - so just to clarify.... you have no clue what it is that could possibly change your win con?

[shraeye]

I do have a clue (also in those posts).  But no clue what it becomes. That's different than in the previous falling skies game where I did know. Ash has provided no clarification

[faust]

@shraeye, why, exactly don't you want to shoot somebody? Just take a potshot and hope you hit your hunter. Would you shoot somebody if we threatened to lynch you otherwise?

Because he can't. This isn't rocket science. shraeye's claimed role offers 2 ways of confirming parts of it, yet faced with his outing and probable lynch he did not offer either; he agreed to skipping the Night only after I pointed it out to him, and is now walking it back. And even though there is no clear downside, and no upside to waiting, he is refusing to shoot.

The reason is obviously that he has neither of these abilities. He's a scum who's trying to weasel out at least another Night where he lives, and another lynch made with no certainty that his team exists.

He's also using the whole "ashersky is being super vague" excuse, the same one Galzria used to cover up inconsistencies in his fakeclaim.

[mail-mi]

Yeah, no, skip is not scum. I still think we probably have only one yellow left, but look to Eddie/EFHW if there is a red team.

Even though Eddie's been harping on EFHW all day?

Did you see my rereads of them? I think it's a bus.

[Uncleeurope]

Yeah, no, skip is not scum. I still think we probably have only one yellow left, but look to Eddie/EFHW if there is a red team.

Even though Eddie's been harping on EFHW all day?

Did you see my rereads of them? I think it's a bus.

Only two ways to find out.

Wait...

[faust]

Hey mail-mi, Eddie, how is that whole "close your eyes and pretend the lies aren't obvious" approach with regards to shraeye working out for you?

[mail-mi]

Hey mail-mi, Eddie, how is that whole "close your eyes and pretend the lies aren't obvious" approach with regards to shraeye working out for you?

I mean, he's getting more suspicious, but I think I still believe him for now

[SpaceAnemone]

Request prod on Space

This is all going nowhere, and has been for like 5 days. Can we get another IC to step in?

Wow, sorry for going prodable. I'm keeping up, and thought I'd made a post yesterday, but keep second-guessing myself about whether it's a good idea for me to express reads at this point.