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[skip wooznum]

I am in total agreement with Faust that galz is hiding something. Unfortunately, since nobody else expressed that opinion, we haven't really made a compelling incentive for him to tell the truth.

Well, I should say more that I was in total agreement with Faust initially, but galz's subsequent posts have shifted me a little, but not that much because we haven't really made an incentive for him to tel the truth.

[skip wooznum]

Also, mail-mi has claimed to have hard evidence that points to me being town, which is more than can be said for anybody else so I don't really get how I'm on the table at this point.

[skip wooznum]

Vote: Eddie

Could you explain this vote?

[faust]

Vote: Eddie

Could you explain this vote?

I thought his defense of Galz scummy. Also, at the time I thought he was the one to sign the petition, or at the very least he defended someone who did. And I currentyl didn't want to be voting for Galzria because I was afraid of a self-hammer.

[mail-mi]

Also, mail-mi has claimed to have hard evidence that points to me being town, which is more than can be said for anybody else so I don't really get how I'm on the table at this point.

Yeah, as I've thought more about this, there's no way that Skip's rolepower is scum. I mean, if it is, gg Ash, you tricked us. I will not be voting for skip today.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.8:

Galzria (5): EFHW, 2.7, WCD, skip, faust
skip (2): shraeye, cayvie
WCD (3): Galzria, uncle, mail-mi
uncleeurope (1): DatSwan

Not Voting (1): SpaceAnemone

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.  Day 2 ends on April 19 at 21:30 forum time.

[ashersky]

@mod, as of post 750 I have been voting for galz

Sorry, I missed it.  Fixed.

[cayvie]

ok. time to catch up (pant pant).

[cayvie]

The first is that she has a tell. If I’m correct, which I believe I am, I’m not really interested in divulging it as it’s usefulness ceases to exist the moment she can alter it - and it’s not so prevalent yet that she can’t simply say “nun-uh!” here and now, change it going forward, and it would get overlooked. Anybody that’s actually interested in finding it has access to all the same data points that I do.

Isn't your survival more important to you than whether or not WCD may do something more damning if you are not upfront about your accusations? Why would you even care whether your scumread is correct?

This point by faust got my attention. Why are you scumhunting, Galz?

Having read further, I see that you think there must be aliens among the scum. I think alien/human was probably assigned randomly.

There could be a delusional human faction. Seeing as we were given a free IC, I think there must be pretty significant threats against town. More than a mafia team and a weakened vig. Unless the mafia team is unusually large, I guess.

i am not a threat against town >:| stop that

[skip wooznum]

And e is scummy for wanting to lynch galz even though he believes the claim. Just an easy way of not committing to a lynch by hiding behind a policy-survivor-lynch.

[cayvie]

The first is that she has a tell. If I’m correct, which I believe I am, I’m not really interested in divulging it as it’s usefulness ceases to exist the moment she can alter it - and it’s not so prevalent yet that she can’t simply say “nun-uh!” here and now, change it going forward, and it would get overlooked. Anybody that’s actually interested in finding it has access to all the same data points that I do.

Isn't your survival more important to you than whether or not WCD may do something more damning if you are not upfront about your accusations? Why would you even care whether your scumread is correct?

This point by faust got my attention. Why are you scumhunting, Galz?

Having read further, I see that you think there must be aliens among the scum. I think alien/human was probably assigned randomly.

There could be a delusional human faction. Seeing as we were given a free IC, I think there must be pretty significant threats against town. More than a mafia team and a weakened vig. Unless the mafia team is unusually large, I guess.

i am not a threat against town >:| stop that

actually grr i'm right around to vote: EFHW after rereading this post. i think calling a "vig" a "threat" is a genuine scumslip.

[WestCoastDidds]

When I put it through Google translate, I get: "Samurai, this war will soon end. Our victory will be brilliant. Until humans surrender, food is cut in half due to transportation problems. Feel free to eat local animals and supplement your diet. The winged animals called owls are especially delicious. Glory to Spheny!"

WHAT?!?

The winged animals called owls are especially delicious?! What kind of outrage is this?! We have been reduced to eating owls?

[WestCoastDidds]

Catching up with the catching up.

I’ll be interested to hear what Space is thinking. I appreciate the meaningful questions, so I’ll hold off on anything further until she has had time to assess

[faust]

We have been reduced to eating owls?

You shouldn't claim alien, it means Galz will want to kill you even more.

[faust]

I’ll be interested to hear what Space is thinking. I appreciate the meaningful questions, so I’ll hold off on anything further until she has had time to assess

That's not how it works. The IC does stuff in the background, and we're supposed to post and stuff.

[EFHW]

The first is that she has a tell. If I’m correct, which I believe I am, I’m not really interested in divulging it as it’s usefulness ceases to exist the moment she can alter it - and it’s not so prevalent yet that she can’t simply say “nun-uh!” here and now, change it going forward, and it would get overlooked. Anybody that’s actually interested in finding it has access to all the same data points that I do.

Isn't your survival more important to you than whether or not WCD may do something more damning if you are not upfront about your accusations? Why would you even care whether your scumread is correct?

This point by faust got my attention. Why are you scumhunting, Galz?

Having read further, I see that you think there must be aliens among the scum. I think alien/human was probably assigned randomly.

There could be a delusional human faction. Seeing as we were given a free IC, I think there must be pretty significant threats against town. More than a mafia team and a weakened vig. Unless the mafia team is unusually large, I guess.

i am not a threat against town >:| stop that

actually grr i'm right around to vote: EFHW after rereading this post. i think calling a "vig" a "threat" is a genuine scumslip.

Given recent history, perhaps I can be forgiven for looking less than kindly at vigs. In any case, vigs are very swingy. How do you think they fit into balance considerations?

[mail-mi]

A similar question to @Mail-mi, about the MiX wagon from about #400. The wagon reached 7 at its peak (#320), but then faust moved off. LL and pubby were there, as was claimed-third-party Galz. Swan left the wagon at #409. What is your impression of the scum team's movements at that point, in terms of where they were voting if the MiX mislynch perhaps wasn't a big focus for them? Do you infer anything about Shraeye's or Swan's alignment?

Let me go take a look at those posts.

So the wagon at its peak was [mail-mi, shraeye, Galzria, DatSwan, faust, LaLight, pubby]. I find it hard to believe that there are no scum on this wagon, considering it was on town. I have a bit of a townier read on shraeye (no particular reason, just feelings and experiences with playing with shraeye in the past) so I'd say faust/DatSwan is more likely to be scum here. I'd have to do a reread of both to be certain, but I'd definitely be willing to switch to either of them (or shraeye if necessary) if it comes down to it.

[faust]

A similar question to @Mail-mi, about the MiX wagon from about #400. The wagon reached 7 at its peak (#320), but then faust moved off. LL and pubby were there, as was claimed-third-party Galz. Swan left the wagon at #409. What is your impression of the scum team's movements at that point, in terms of where they were voting if the MiX mislynch perhaps wasn't a big focus for them? Do you infer anything about Shraeye's or Swan's alignment?

Let me go take a look at those posts.

So the wagon at its peak was [mail-mi, shraeye, Galzria, DatSwan, faust, LaLight, pubby]. I find it hard to believe that there are no scum on this wagon, considering it was on town. I have a bit of a townier read on shraeye (no particular reason, just feelings and experiences with playing with shraeye in the past) so I'd say faust/DatSwan is more likely to be scum here. I'd have to do a reread of both to be certain, but I'd definitely be willing to switch to either of them (or shraeye if necessary) if it comes down to it.

Well there is a scum on the wagon - it's Galzria, who you've colored purple without any evidence.

[mail-mi]

A similar question to @Mail-mi, about the MiX wagon from about #400. The wagon reached 7 at its peak (#320), but then faust moved off. LL and pubby were there, as was claimed-third-party Galz. Swan left the wagon at #409. What is your impression of the scum team's movements at that point, in terms of where they were voting if the MiX mislynch perhaps wasn't a big focus for them? Do you infer anything about Shraeye's or Swan's alignment?

Let me go take a look at those posts.

So the wagon at its peak was [mail-mi, shraeye, Galzria, DatSwan, faust, LaLight, pubby]. I find it hard to believe that there are no scum on this wagon, considering it was on town. I have a bit of a townier read on shraeye (no particular reason, just feelings and experiences with playing with shraeye in the past) so I'd say faust/DatSwan is more likely to be scum here. I'd have to do a reread of both to be certain, but I'd definitely be willing to switch to either of them (or shraeye if necessary) if it comes down to it.

Well there is a scum on the wagon - it's Galzria, who you've colored purple without any evidence.

I colored purple as "not town." I suppose I could have done grey. Also I'm not considering Galz scum because I believe his claim (I seem to be in a minority, but I do) and I also think that him playing toward his wincon currently helps town, and we can use all the help we can get.

[cayvie]

The first is that she has a tell. If I’m correct, which I believe I am, I’m not really interested in divulging it as it’s usefulness ceases to exist the moment she can alter it - and it’s not so prevalent yet that she can’t simply say “nun-uh!” here and now, change it going forward, and it would get overlooked. Anybody that’s actually interested in finding it has access to all the same data points that I do.

Isn't your survival more important to you than whether or not WCD may do something more damning if you are not upfront about your accusations? Why would you even care whether your scumread is correct?

This point by faust got my attention. Why are you scumhunting, Galz?

Having read further, I see that you think there must be aliens among the scum. I think alien/human was probably assigned randomly.

There could be a delusional human faction. Seeing as we were given a free IC, I think there must be pretty significant threats against town. More than a mafia team and a weakened vig. Unless the mafia team is unusually large, I guess.

i am not a threat against town >:| stop that

actually grr i'm right around to vote: EFHW after rereading this post. i think calling a "vig" a "threat" is a genuine scumslip.

Given recent history, perhaps I can be forgiven for looking less than kindly at vigs. In any case, vigs are very swingy. How do you think they fit into balance considerations?

i think vigs in general are a strong town role, especially when they shoot scumfoos. yeah they're swingy but, like...

if there was a game mechanic that a totally random player just died one night, that would be a protown event in my eyes. and a vig shot is better than that, since it's controlled by a townie.

[faust]

A similar question to @Mail-mi, about the MiX wagon from about #400. The wagon reached 7 at its peak (#320), but then faust moved off. LL and pubby were there, as was claimed-third-party Galz. Swan left the wagon at #409. What is your impression of the scum team's movements at that point, in terms of where they were voting if the MiX mislynch perhaps wasn't a big focus for them? Do you infer anything about Shraeye's or Swan's alignment?

Let me go take a look at those posts.

So the wagon at its peak was [mail-mi, shraeye, Galzria, DatSwan, faust, LaLight, pubby]. I find it hard to believe that there are no scum on this wagon, considering it was on town. I have a bit of a townier read on shraeye (no particular reason, just feelings and experiences with playing with shraeye in the past) so I'd say faust/DatSwan is more likely to be scum here. I'd have to do a reread of both to be certain, but I'd definitely be willing to switch to either of them (or shraeye if necessary) if it comes down to it.

Well there is a scum on the wagon - it's Galzria, who you've colored purple without any evidence.

I colored purple as "not town." I suppose I could have done grey. Also I'm not considering Galz scum because I believe his claim (I seem to be in a minority, but I do) and I also think that him playing toward his wincon currently helps town, and we can use all the help we can get.

Nah, if you were in the minority, then Galzria would be dead.

[shraeye]

Also, mail-mi has claimed to have hard evidence that points to me being town, which is more than can be said for anybody else so I don't really get how I'm on the table at this point.

Yeah, as I've thought more about this, there's no way that Skip's rolepower is scum. I mean, if it is, gg Ash, you tricked us. I will not be voting for skip today.

I need at least a modicum of clarification here.  Is his role power just to send a message?  Or did you get "something" in addition to the message?  Because just sending a message is 100% 100% 100% NAI.

[mail-mi]

Also, mail-mi has claimed to have hard evidence that points to me being town, which is more than can be said for anybody else so I don't really get how I'm on the table at this point.

Yeah, as I've thought more about this, there's no way that Skip's rolepower is scum. I mean, if it is, gg Ash, you tricked us. I will not be voting for skip today.

I need at least a modicum of clarification here.  Is his role power just to send a message?  Or did you get "something" in addition to the message?  Because just sending a message is 100% 100% 100% NAI.

I will say this: I did not get a message. I only got, as you say "something."

[2.71828.....]

I just reread Skip - not really seeing a lot there.  Nothing townie or scummy, just a big bag of null.  Let's see what other rereads bring

[2.71828.....]

Been reading while prepping for Drunk Mafia.

faust is a beacon of wisdom and knowledge this game.  Shouldn't lynch

Galzria is not town, is not working for town, and should be lynched.

WCD is being friendly...too friendly.  Oh wait, it's WCD.  Of course she is friendly.  But still.

Skip is nondescript, which is scummy.

mail-mi is playing exactly how I would expect them to play, which is null.

Other people are also playing the game.