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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #350 on: April 04, 2020, 10:07:39 am »

I’m down for a little vote: EFHW
Is that because I defended cayvie?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #351 on: April 04, 2020, 10:12:09 am »

Can we not lynch MiX or cayvie?

I recommend EFHW!

That's good. I also like a Swan lynch, and a pubby lynch. Either 4 work in my opinion, in that order.

I'll stick with my vote for now. Tell my why cayvie is town, then I might follow you.

She defended you just a few posts back.

Why does that make her town?

I’m down for a little vote: EFHW

You're hungry for some wagons! I love it.

Thoughts on faust?

Thoughts on faust?

What are your thoughts on Faust?

and pubby's next post, one posting-requirement-unit later:

vote: MiX

L-1  8)

i'm keeping my vote on this guy.

Yeah, you do that while I see how far your wagon goes. I have to say it's been great so far so I don't wanna back down, and it's keeping my options open which is amazing.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #352 on: April 04, 2020, 10:32:39 am »

Unfortunately, the very few posts with Jordan Content 0 (just learned about that in my analysis class, seems to fit the situation) doesn't make pubby scum. He lurks hardcore as scum and town.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #353 on: April 04, 2020, 11:45:16 am »

Unfortunately, the very few posts with Jordan Content 0 (just learned about that in my analysis class, seems to fit the situation) doesn't make pubby scum. He lurks hardcore as scum and town.

that's not just lurking though. it's bringing up a subject, and then not having anything to say about that subject. he brought up faust, and then turned out not to have anything to say about faust. it's not just lurking, it's faking participation.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #354 on: April 04, 2020, 12:03:21 pm »

My votes sure as hell aren't fake.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #355 on: April 04, 2020, 12:16:35 pm »

My votes sure as hell aren't fake.

oh hi there

did you have any particular thoughts on faust you wanted to share when you brought him up as a topic of conversation?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #356 on: April 04, 2020, 03:27:59 pm »


Yeah, you do that while I see how far your wagon goes. I have to say it's been great so far so I don't wanna back down, and it's keeping my options open which is amazing.

What options are being kept open and how? You are the only one on the cayvie wagon. How is that great? Why are you so happy being at L-2?
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #357 on: April 04, 2020, 03:32:37 pm »


Yeah, you do that while I see how far your wagon goes. I have to say it's been great so far so I don't wanna back down, and it's keeping my options open which is amazing.

What options are being kept open and how? You are the only one on the cayvie wagon. How is that great? Why are you so happy being at L-2?

Wait, really? checks wagons oh yeah!

Vote: EFHW
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #358 on: April 04, 2020, 05:24:33 pm »

My votes sure as hell aren't fake.

oh hi there

did you have any particular thoughts on faust you wanted to share when you brought him up as a topic of conversation?

It’s very cock of the walk! I’m envisioning a cowboy hat and spurs....gunslinger pubby style
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #359 on: April 04, 2020, 09:48:20 pm »

Vote Count 1.8:

MiX (6): mail-mi, shraeye, Galzria, DatSwan, LaLight, pubby
EFHW (4): uncle, faust, WCD, MiX
WCD (1): EFHW
pubby (2): cayvie, skip

Not Voting (1): 2.7

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends Tuesday, April 7 at 10:00 a.m.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #360 on: April 04, 2020, 11:33:58 pm »

My lynch preference as of now among players with votes is:

Pubby>efhw>>>mix>>>wcd.

Is Faust on the table D1 or is that just not done?
Has he played such a low effort d1 as either alignment? I don't recall reading one. I haven't really honed in on a concise type of case but my nebulous thoughts are something like:

Without necessarily being able to quote direct examples, I've gotten the feeling from some of faust's posts in mafia games and threads discussing mafia meta over the years a certain displeasure with lack of activity/effort on the part of town. (Feel free to argue with this, I don't claim to be an expert. This is based on the small sample size that I've been exposed to.) His behavior in this game looks to me like scum!faust experimenting with what he can get away with. Or maybe teaching town a lesson. I don't know. I'd appreciate other people's thoughts on this.

@faust, which alignment do you enjoy playing more? (I can't say exactly why this is relevant,  but I feel like it might help.)
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #361 on: April 05, 2020, 12:18:15 am »

My lynch preference as of now among players with votes is:

Pubby>efhw>>>mix>>>wcd.

Is Faust on the table D1 or is that just not done?
Has he played such a low effort d1 as either alignment? I don't recall reading one. I haven't really honed in on a concise type of case but my nebulous thoughts are something like:

Without necessarily being able to quote direct examples, I've gotten the feeling from some of faust's posts in mafia games and threads discussing mafia meta over the years a certain displeasure with lack of activity/effort on the part of town. (Feel free to argue with this, I don't claim to be an expert. This is based on the small sample size that I've been exposed to.) His behavior in this game looks to me like scum!faust experimenting with what he can get away with. Or maybe teaching town a lesson. I don't know. I'd appreciate other people's thoughts on this.

@faust, which alignment do you enjoy playing more? (I can't say exactly why this is relevant,  but I feel like it might help.)


Pubby>efhw>>>wcd>>>MiX for me.

i'd pust faust after efhw in my scumlist. i don't have any finished games with either of them under my belt tho so the meta reads aren't strong.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #362 on: April 05, 2020, 12:22:32 am »

Pubby>efhw>>>wcd>>>MiX for me.
Have you totally discounted the scumslip? I still think there might be something to it but it may require more info.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #363 on: April 05, 2020, 01:22:08 am »

Sorry, I will read and provide some sort of feedback today.

My gut after not reading anything and seeing the wagons is that MiX said something terrible and a bunch of people want to lunch him for it. But MiX saying strange things is just a MiX-tell, not a scum-tell.

That being said, reading today, posting today, really sorry I let this slip
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #364 on: April 05, 2020, 01:37:58 am »

Pubby>efhw>>>wcd>>>MiX for me.
Have you totally discounted the scumslip? I still think there might be something to it but it may require more info.

i haven't 100% discounted it, but i'd definitely lean town on him rn.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #365 on: April 05, 2020, 02:36:34 am »

@faust, which alignment do you enjoy playing more? (I can't say exactly why this is relevant,  but I feel like it might help.)
Scum. But also it depends. Playing scum multiple games in a row is exhausting, so if that happens I like to have some nice chill VT game in between.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #366 on: April 05, 2020, 02:47:01 am »

Also, I haven't played two games parallel in a while, it's possible you're just seeing the effects of that.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #367 on: April 05, 2020, 03:10:38 am »

So, after reading, I think MiX could totally be town or scum I disagree with the scum slip theory, and he is being is usual level of ornary.

What did stand it to me though was cayvie.

Particularly look at this:

By the way, the best way to use your role is to say nothing, use it on your scumread N1, and if they don't die say you fruit vendor'd someone and they should claim that they got the fruit or you out them and they're lynched. This way you get to know if there's any bus driver shenanigans and it accomplishes the same. Also also, you have more than one power so you're not using the vig shot N1, which means the claim is useless for now. All of this adds to you being scum.

Just wait untill cayvie flips not town to see that I'm right.

On a reread, I think mix scum slipped here.

More specifically, in the assumption that I can't use multiple powers in one night (which I can).

I put it to you that scum (who already have a nightkill) is more likely to have single powers in this game than town, and thus would not have had a reason to ask the mod.

vote: mix

At this point cayvie has 3 votes and is potentially feeling threatened as a lynch target.

Then what do we have? I potential scum slip argument, a new wagon, and Bam. MiX is the lead lynch target.

I get the frustration with the whole meta thing (well, maybe not get it since I don't have that problem, but I have seen it with several players here like faust, ashersky, robz to name a few)...just wait for the "you are alive D3 therefore you are scum argument" to show up. But that is all beside the point.

Point is:
1) claims a role (I assume you are being truthful about the role whether town or scum) that is potentially very useful for town but extremely dangerous for scum (with the loud shot and all).

2) fabricates a scum slip that creates a wagon to deflect attention away from you where now you have.....0 votes

3) I don't have a third point.

But still,

Vote: cayvie
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #368 on: April 05, 2020, 03:39:15 am »


What do you think of my recent faust post? If I'm way off don't hold back, I can take it.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #369 on: April 05, 2020, 03:44:49 am »

2) fabricates a scum slip that creates a wagon to deflect attention away from you where now you have.....0 votes
If cayvie is the scum mastermind that could foresee this happening, then we should lynch her indeed.
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #370 on: April 05, 2020, 03:45:41 am »

Is Faust on the table D1 or is that just not done?
Has he played such a low effort d1 as either alignment? I don't recall reading one. I haven't really honed in on a concise type of case but my nebulous thoughts are something like:

Without necessarily being able to quote direct examples, I've gotten the feeling from some of faust's posts in mafia games and threads discussing mafia meta over the years a certain displeasure with lack of activity/effort on the part of town. (Feel free to argue with this, I don't claim to be an expert. This is based on the small sample size that I've been exposed to.) His behavior in this game looks to me like scum!faust experimenting with what he can get away with. Or maybe teaching town a lesson. I don't know. I'd appreciate other people's thoughts on this.

@faust, which alignment do you enjoy playing more? (I can't say exactly why this is relevant,  but I feel like it might help.)

So this is the same thing that faust brought up about sympathizing with cayvie: you get a reputation and it sticks with you.

I think the last time we lynched faust D1 I led the charge and he ended up being town. And I think I probably just wanted to lynch him because it never happens usually.

So long story short.... Everyone is able to be lynched D1, it just happens less frequently to some than others because they are "useful" later on

I always say if you think a person is scummy vote for them. Just build a case. We can always do the mad dash for a Lynch with 2 hours left
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #371 on: April 05, 2020, 03:47:47 am »

2) fabricates a scum slip that creates a wagon to deflect attention away from you where now you have.....0 votes
If cayvie is the scum mastermind that could foresee this happening, then we should lynch her indeed.

Yeah, I wish I had a magic button to reset votes against me to zero to.

I am obviously not saying that cayvie's case on MiX caused her to have zero votes now. It's more a correlation than a causation
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #372 on: April 05, 2020, 03:48:12 am »

But it did start the process. And she is conveniently now at 0
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #373 on: April 05, 2020, 03:48:20 am »

Well, 1 now
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Re: RMM55: Falling Skies Mafia 2 (Day 1)
« Reply #374 on: April 05, 2020, 03:48:52 am »

I always say if you think a person is scummy vote for them. Just build a case. We can always do the mad dash for a Lynch with 2 hours left
Ah, building a case is overrated.

By the way, you should vote for EFHW.
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