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[Awaclus]

He's talking about the flavor. We all assumed (or at least those that know the flavor assumed) that protagonists of the book = town, but because of the flip we know differently.

I don't know anything about the flavor, but I have known since receiving my role PM that Radch-aligned = town, not because of the flip.

[mail-mi]

He's talking about the flavor. We all assumed (or at least those that know the flavor assumed) that protagonists of the book = town, but because of the flip we know differently.

I don't know anything about the flavor, but I have known since receiving my role PM that Radch-aligned = town, not because of the flip.

Ok. Let me see if I can explain again. What glooble was saying that (in relation to flavor):

Protagonists of the book = Enemies of the Radch = scum
Antagonists of the book = Radch = town.

He was talking about the relationship of protagonists and antagonists to alignment, not the relationship of "Radch-aligned" and "enemies of the radch aligned" to alignment.

Am I getting this right glooble?

[Glooble]

He's talking about the flavor. We all assumed (or at least those that know the flavor assumed) that protagonists of the book = town, but because of the flip we know differently.

I don't know anything about the flavor, but I have known since receiving my role PM that Radch-aligned = town, not because of the flip.

Ok. Let me see if I can explain again. What glooble was saying that (in relation to flavor):

Protagonists of the book = Enemies of the Radch = scum
Antagonists of the book = Radch = town.

He was talking about the relationship of protagonists and antagonists to alignment, not the relationship of "Radch-aligned" and "enemies of the radch aligned" to alignment.

Am I getting this right glooble?

Exactly.

[Glooble]

And if you want proof go back to the very beginning of the game when Awaclus asks me my alignment and I say I'm Radch-aligned.

[Glooble]

So, WestCoast, DatSwan, hypercube, and Glooble, what's your mafia playing experience?

I played in this forum years and years ago. I stopped because I was taking it too seriously and it was stressing me out.

cool

are you scum?

I am Radch-aligned in this game.

[jotheonah]

I can't believe this is what we're spending our beginning of the day talking about.

vote: Awaclus

[2.71828.....]

I can't believe this is what we're spending our beginning of the day talking about.

vote: Awaclus

We can do better.

Vote: WestCoastDidds

On wagon D1, off wagon D2

[2.71828.....]

I get where the Awaclus vote stems from, but there are better people to lynch.

That being said, I also believe Awaclus to be town

[2.71828.....]

Also the Glooble votes. I get it, that was a scummy post. But consider ALL their play. Town, not scum

[jotheonah]

Hooray!! LL was scum!

Losing a jailkeeper is tough. Pour one out for Swan. And for Hyper. You will be missed. I definitely town read Swan, so I’m glad my sense of things was right, but I wasn’t expecting him to get whacked. I guess that is the nature of the NK. Le sigh...

It took me awhile to wrap my mind around Breq being a baddie, but it makes some sense. She’s the one trying to change things. Breq was the the main protagonist, so her death is a big win. Yeah us!

I’m in Omaha for work today. I won’t be around at all, but I’m flying back to warmer places tomorrow and will be more available en route. For anyone else in the band of the polar vortex, stay warm friends.

This is a pretty scummy post, now that you mention it.

[jotheonah]

I get where the Awaclus vote stems from, but there are better people to lynch.

That being said, I also believe Awaclus to be town

What about mail-mi?

[2.71828.....]

I get where the Awaclus vote stems from, but there are better people to lynch.

That being said, I also believe Awaclus to be town

What about mail-mi?

I think mail-mi is more town than scum at this point

[2.71828.....]

I get where the Awaclus vote stems from, but there are better people to lynch.

That being said, I also believe Awaclus to be town

What about mail-mi?

I think mail-mi is more town than scum at this point

If mail-mi were scum with LaLight there is absolutely no way they claim when they did and how they did

[jotheonah]

I get where the Awaclus vote stems from, but there are better people to lynch.

That being said, I also believe Awaclus to be town

What about mail-mi?

I think mail-mi is more town than scum at this point

If mail-mi were scum with LaLight there is absolutely no way they claim when they did and how they did

I think it's dangerously easy to next level ourselves with arguments like this and ignore what's right in front of us. mail-mi has been scummy all day. He was on the wrong side of the wagon and made an extremely scummy claim.

[2.71828.....]

I get where the Awaclus vote stems from, but there are better people to lynch.

That being said, I also believe Awaclus to be town

What about mail-mi?

I think mail-mi is more town than scum at this point

If mail-mi were scum with LaLight there is absolutely no way they claim when they did and how they did

I think it's dangerously easy to next level ourselves with arguments like this and ignore what's right in front of us. mail-mi has been scummy all day. He was on the wrong side of the wagon and made an extremely scummy claim.

I haven't really picked up a huge scum vibe from mail-mi at all.

[Glooble]

Someone please tell me why Awaclus isn't obvscum though? Her play this entire game has been belligerent, confrontational, and backed up by swiss-cheese logic. I'm really not inclined to switch my vote to anyone else without a very good case.

[2.71828.....]

Someone please tell me why Awaclus isn't obvscum though? Her play this entire game has been belligerent, confrontational, and backed up by swiss-cheese logic. I'm really not inclined to switch my vote to anyone else without a very good case.

Belligerent - not scummy
Confrontational - not scummy, even townie
Swiss-cheese logic - not scummy

[SpaceAnemone]

Someone please tell me why Awaclus isn't obvscum though? Her play this entire game has been belligerent, confrontational, and backed up by swiss-cheese logic. I'm really not inclined to switch my vote to anyone else without a very good case.

Belligerent - not scummy
Confrontational - not scummy, even townie
Swiss-cheese logic - not scummy

All of the above -> Awaclusian

I mean, I think he might be being a small bit scummy, but he's actually hard to tell. He was scum in the RMM Haddock and I ran, and I think he was more conversational, but I also think his hard line on "this is how you have to play mafia" was a bit less extreme in those days anyway.

[SpaceAnemone]

Seeing Breq's flip made me feel less worried that my flavour name isn't strongly aligned with her people/general morality in the books, and also more open to the idea that Ash's claimed flavour name is genuine and Radch-aligned.

The Radch overall is a lot like saying "civilised society" -- it has different connotations to other people. Clearly we are all "civilised", but maybe only in the way colonialists and slave traders are.

[Glooble]

Ok, willing to consider the possibility that I just don't care for Awaclus's playstyle and maybe I'm reacting emotionally to her constant attacks on me.

It's not good to develop tunnel-vision.

[Haddock]

Ok, willing to consider the possibility that I just don't care for Awaclus's playstyle and maybe I'm reacting emotionally to her constant attacks on me.

Congratulations young padawan you have taken the first step towards mafia wisdom

Also folks I moved house today and have much unpacking to do. Gonna have to catch up with yall later on tonight.

However I will say: it's obvious that Glooble was talking purely about the flavour, noting that we are radch-aligned and town, but not the "good guys" in the sense of the books, ie. We are aligned against the protagonists of the books.

This is not difficult to understand. Anyone voting Glooble for that is scummy.

[Awaclus]

However I will say: it's obvious that Glooble was talking purely about the flavour, noting that we are radch-aligned and town, but not the "good guys" in the sense of the books, ie. We are aligned against the protagonists of the books.

This is not difficult to understand. Anyone voting Glooble for that is scummy.

It is difficult to understand. I'm not familiar with the flavor at all, and this is my best effort at trying to figure out what's going on:

1) In the book, "Radch" aren't necessarily heroes or villains
2) Therefore, getting a character from the book who isn't necessarily a hero or a villain as "Radch-aligned" isn't surprising
3) If that's what happened to Glooble, it is not strange for Glooble to assume that "Radch-aligned" (i.e. town) are the heroes from the book
4) And then if that's what Glooble assumed, it goes against that assumption when a town player flips a villain flavor name and a scum player flips a hero flavor name and this is worth pointing out in the thread
5) For some reason, Glooble assumed that everyone else also assumed that "Radch-aligned" are the heroes from the book

Is this right?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Hi everyone!

I promise to post more than Robz did. Read the game fast over the night, definitely need to go back to look at some stuff today.

I don't know the flavor at all, although I may try to get around to reading it when I finish the book I'm currently reading.

[UmbrageOfSnow]

I target one player and name one player. I named LaLight, but didn't target her. However, it's possible I redirected an action pointed at someone else to LaLight. I can claim more if necessary, but I'd rather not.

Joth, could you please answer this with just a "Yes," "No," or "It's possible."

Did you redirect Robz' action on N1?

[UmbrageOfSnow]

Joth, any interest in doing an RMM based on Long Way to a Small Angry Planet sometime?