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Author Topic: M117: Emotions Mafia (Game over! Scum wins flawlessly.)  (Read 151798 times)

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #825 on: August 24, 2018, 06:05:43 pm »

massclaim is obvious.  Proposed order:

Skumpy
EFHW
silver
Raptor
Robz
Space
gkrieg
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #826 on: August 24, 2018, 06:06:16 pm »

Claim 2nd, and I'm fine with that
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #827 on: August 24, 2018, 06:07:01 pm »

Claim 2nd, and I'm fine with that

As in you want me to claim in the 2nd place? 
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #828 on: August 24, 2018, 06:07:09 pm »

Would be pretty gutsy for scum!gkrieg to just be like, hey, here's the order, I'm last. Makes me think town.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #829 on: August 24, 2018, 06:08:26 pm »

Sooner the better, whatever happens, with a vig around. Not that they're getting CCed.

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #830 on: August 24, 2018, 06:08:43 pm »

I'm fine with gkrieg's order, though I'm also really quite in need of sleep tonight, so I can't guarantee I'm awake close to the end of the process!
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #831 on: August 24, 2018, 06:12:41 pm »

oh my god.

Skumpy. I know you  don't mind claiming first because you're town. Buy you're supposed to claim later because we want SCUM to claim EARLY.

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #832 on: August 24, 2018, 06:14:26 pm »

massclaim is obvious.  Proposed order:

Skumpy
EFHW
silver
Raptor
Robz
Space
gkrieg

Hahaha. Ok, let's get serious.

1. Raptor
2. gkrieg
3. space
4. Robz
5. silver
6. EFHW
7. Skumpy

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #833 on: August 24, 2018, 06:15:02 pm »

What is the point of this? Skumpy already claimed.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #834 on: August 24, 2018, 06:15:21 pm »

I know skumpy already claimed, which was a horrible idea. But let's follow that order from now on. Raptor claims next.

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #835 on: August 24, 2018, 06:15:32 pm »

oh my god.

Skumpy. I know you  don't mind claiming first because you're town. Buy you're supposed to claim later because we want SCUM to claim EARLY.

Don't butter me up, this is a vegan game.

If 6/7 of the people left have been here, let's claim and get this over with while scum's still digesting. I don't want to wait for Raptor to show.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #836 on: August 24, 2018, 06:16:18 pm »

I think silver is conf!scum because of the Simon wagon at the end of D1. Everyone other than him and me on that wagon have already flipped town, and the wagon itself is now confirmed to have been on a town, as Skumpy said it would be.

I'm happy continuing the claim stuff before we start laying down votes, but no way am I following a claim order suggested by silver.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #837 on: August 24, 2018, 06:18:02 pm »

Personally, I would like silver to claim next. I also think EFHW (who is unfortunately showing as now offline) should claim before Raptor, since I still think one of other of that pair has to be scum, and I'm leaning on it being EFHW, especially after all of yesterday's defensiveness.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #838 on: August 24, 2018, 06:18:21 pm »

I think silver is conf!scum because of the Simon wagon at the end of D1. Everyone other than him and me on that wagon have already flipped town, and the wagon itself is now confirmed to have been on a town, as Skumpy said it would be.

I'm happy continuing the claim stuff before we start laying down votes, but no way am I following a claim order suggested by silver.

What about gkrieg and EFHW's first vote?
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #839 on: August 24, 2018, 06:18:31 pm »

I think silver is conf!scum because of the Simon wagon at the end of D1. Everyone other than him and me on that wagon have already flipped town, and the wagon itself is now confirmed to have been on a town, as Skumpy said it would be.

... so?

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #840 on: August 24, 2018, 06:20:22 pm »

like what does this even mean. there are 2 town wagons, why should being on one be worse than on the other?

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #841 on: August 24, 2018, 06:24:03 pm »

I think silver is conf!scum because of the Simon wagon at the end of D1. Everyone other than him and me on that wagon have already flipped town, and the wagon itself is now confirmed to have been on a town, as Skumpy said it would be.

I'm happy continuing the claim stuff before we start laying down votes, but no way am I following a claim order suggested by silver.

What about gkrieg and EFHW's first vote?

You mean their votes on the Simon wagon? They came over 100 votes after silver's, right as the deadline was drawing in.

There's also the fact that silver had three town votes on him earlier in D1 without a single scum showing up. I was willing to write that off earlier as scum knowing that my vote was more or less RVS, but right now it contributes to thinking he wasn't attracting scum votes because his buddies didn't feel the need risk pushing that wagon.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #842 on: August 24, 2018, 06:25:31 pm »

I think silver is conf!scum because of the Simon wagon at the end of D1. Everyone other than him and me on that wagon have already flipped town, and the wagon itself is now confirmed to have been on a town, as Skumpy said it would be.

I'm happy continuing the claim stuff before we start laying down votes, but no way am I following a claim order suggested by silver.

What about gkrieg and EFHW's first vote?

You mean their votes on the Simon wagon? They came over 100 votes after silver's, right as the deadline was drawing in.

There's also the fact that silver had three town votes on him earlier in D1 without a single scum showing up. I was willing to write that off earlier as scum knowing that my vote was more or less RVS, but right now it contributes to thinking he wasn't attracting scum votes because his buddies didn't feel the need risk pushing that wagon.

Misunderstood, thought you meant EOD.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #843 on: August 24, 2018, 06:26:20 pm »

There's also the fact that silver had three town votes on him earlier in D1 without a single scum showing up.
How could this possibly constitute any non-negligible amount of evidence? Are you telling me that votes early in day 1 are so far from random that if three people vote for someone that someone is probbaly scum? what?

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #844 on: August 24, 2018, 06:26:38 pm »

like what does this even mean. there are 2 town wagons, why should being on one be worse than on the other?

I mean it's exceedingly rare to have a purely town-on-town wagon, that endures for over 100 posts, and reaches five town-on-town votes with no action from scum. So the logical answer is that scum was involved, with a very high probability.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #845 on: August 24, 2018, 06:29:32 pm »

like what does this even mean. there are 2 town wagons, why should being on one be worse than on the other?

I mean it's exceedingly rare to have a purely town-on-town wagon, that endures for over 100 posts, and reaches five town-on-town votes with no action from scum. So the logical answer is that scum was involved, with a very high probability.

But town doesn't know whether I'm town or scum. So how can me being town possibly make it less likely to happen?

If your point is just that it's unlikely for no scum to be ON a wagon for a long time, then idk if that's legit or not but we know it happened, so it doesn't matter.

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #846 on: August 24, 2018, 06:32:54 pm »

like what does this even mean. there are 2 town wagons, why should being on one be worse than on the other?

I mean it's exceedingly rare to have a purely town-on-town wagon, that endures for over 100 posts, and reaches five town-on-town votes with no action from scum. So the logical answer is that scum was involved, with a very high probability.

But town doesn't know whether I'm town or scum. So how can me being town possibly make it less likely to happen?

If your point is just that it's unlikely for no scum to be ON a wagon for a long time, then idk if that's legit or not but we know it happened, so it doesn't matter.

Actually, if you weren't already behaving like caught scum, you probably ought to be arguing that I could be scum for all you know. From your PoV, that still ought to have been a strong possibility if you were actually town, rather than scum who knows I'm innocent.
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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #847 on: August 24, 2018, 06:34:16 pm »

Also can someone please explain to me how gkrieg, who has been flying under the radar the whole time in a game where every big wagon was on town and that really looks like scum is flying under the radar, is just treated like an IC? I don't understand. How is he not a major suspect? Why would anyone let him make a reads list?

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #848 on: August 24, 2018, 06:35:38 pm »

like what does this even mean. there are 2 town wagons, why should being on one be worse than on the other?

I mean it's exceedingly rare to have a purely town-on-town wagon, that endures for over 100 posts, and reaches five town-on-town votes with no action from scum. So the logical answer is that scum was involved, with a very high probability.

But town doesn't know whether I'm town or scum. So how can me being town possibly make it less likely to happen?

If your point is just that it's unlikely for no scum to be ON a wagon for a long time, then idk if that's legit or not but we know it happened, so it doesn't matter.

Actually, if you weren't already behaving like caught scum, you probably ought to be arguing that I could be scum for all you know. From your PoV, that still ought to have been a strong possibility if you were actually town, rather than scum who knows I'm innocent.

I have no idea what you're talking about. Do you admit that the original argument doesn't make any sense? If yes I can try to understand what new point you're making.

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Re: M117: Emotions Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #849 on: August 24, 2018, 06:38:22 pm »

Also can someone please explain to me how gkrieg, who has been flying under the radar the whole time in a game where every big wagon was on town and that really looks like scum is flying under the radar, is just treated like an IC? I don't understand. How is he not a major suspect? Why would anyone let him make a reads list?

Yesterday several of us agreed he's looking very townie. Skumpy even used his townread on gkrieg to assist his townread on me. The fact he hasn't picked up a single vote over the entire game so far implies that people townread him quite broadly!
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