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[faust]

- We have no idea if his role claim is true or not. It's entirely unverifiable.

BS. Idplay's item confirms my role.

- We have no idea if his item is true or not. It's entirely possible that he made the item up before the game began to use as a fakeclaim.
- It's entirely possible that the item he had DID exist, but doesn't do what he claims. It could've, perhaps, allowed EFHW to change alignment if it ended up in her hands.

Of course anything's possible. That doesn't do anything.

- His case on LaLight is kinda based around LaLight's PR "not being likely with a Tracker in play"... and yet LaLight's PR is repeatedly verifiable and has been consistent and accurate each night, so...

Most of the time he confirmed what we or scum already knew. When did he actually provide information that would be unknown to both

[Galzria]

Note that Galzria was unable to argue against any of the points I brought up that point to me being town, and instead builds his case on me not voting for gkrieg.

False. I refuted all of them.

[faust]

For the point raised in that, I spread my voe around in any of my games.

We're still in a QT. I didn't commute last night. We've talked this over.

So if scum has stealing, and I am scum, why do you still have your item?

[Galzria]

Working under the assumption that Faust is scum here (and thus LaLight is likely town), it's easy to see in faust's voting pattern that he spread his vote around as much as possible - creating as many different wagons as possible.

This is the revealing bit. Galzria does not want to find out if I am scum - he works under the assumption that I am and tries to builds a narrative.

I did the same for everybody in my QT with Mcmc. You're the only one that fit, so the only one I did here.

[Galzria]

For the point raised in that, I spread my voe around in any of my games.

We're still in a QT. I didn't commute last night. We've talked this over.

So if scum has stealing, and I am scum, why do you still have your item?

Because you assumed I commuted. You couldn't target me.

[Galzria]

For the point raised in that, I spread my voe around in any of my games.

We're still in a QT. I didn't commute last night. We've talked this over.

So if scum has stealing, and I am scum, why do you still have your item?

Because you assumed I commuted. You couldn't target me.

To be more precise:

Either it was 1-shot so trying to steal it was pointless, or it wasn't and you couldn't steal it anyway.

[Galzria]

- We have no idea if his role claim is true or not. It's entirely unverifiable.

BS. Idplay's item confirms my role.

- We have no idea if his item is true or not. It's entirely possible that he made the item up before the game began to use as a fakeclaim.
- It's entirely possible that the item he had DID exist, but doesn't do what he claims. It could've, perhaps, allowed EFHW to change alignment if it ended up in her hands.

Of course anything's possible. That doesn't do anything.

- His case on LaLight is kinda based around LaLight's PR "not being likely with a Tracker in play"... and yet LaLight's PR is repeatedly verifiable and has been consistent and accurate each night, so...

Most of the time he confirmed what we or scum already knew. When did he actually provide information that would be unknown to both

Datswan and PPS were both one-shot beasts. IDPTG's item confirms nothing about you.

LaLight confirmed motion around Robz N1 before anything was claimed regarding such.

[Hydrad]

oh man. well I'm fine for voting either faust or lalight still. I don't really care which. as even if they are both town we are still not lost (once again I guess hoping that robz isn't scum. but I really feel like hes not scum). although I highly doubt they are both town in my opinion.

even if robz is scum I still almost think we lynch from someone else because we have to find the other scum anyways and once we do then we can auto lynch robz if game isn't over yet.

[EFHW]

vote: Hydrad

Vote: Robz

[mcmcsalot]

oh man. well I'm fine for voting either faust or lalight still. I don't really care which. as even if they are both town we are still not lost (once again I guess hoping that robz isn't scum. but I really feel like hes not scum). although I highly doubt they are both town in my opinion.

even if robz is scum I still almost think we lynch from someone else because we have to find the other scum anyways and once we do then we can auto lynch robz if game isn't over yet.

I agree with this

[EFHW]

Vote: mcmc

VOTE: ROBZ

[EFHW]

vote: mcmc

VOTE: ROBZ

[Galzria]

vote: mcmc

VOTE: ROBZ

Robz is a bad lynch because he's a solved player the moment I die. Either he dies too and is town, or doesn't and is scum.

Even if the concern with keeping him alive is that we might triple kill town via a mislynch today and my death at night - a mislynch today means I'll be commuting Mcmc and myself for sure tonight. Further, in this scenario where he's town, lynching him now instead of just lynching scum is a dumb option.

And yes, this is all coming from a person that still thinks there's at least equal likelihood that's he's still scum and not town. But even if he is, there's still Gkrieg's natural teammate out there. Robz is NOT that person - and at this time we shouldn't be wasting time on a coinflip lynch of Robz when he's solved the moment that either I, or Gkrieg's natural partner die (assuming here that there hasn't been other alignment flipping).

Which, also, speaking of alignment flipping, is something you may have done - something for everyone to keep in mind.

[EFHW]

vote: Galzria

Vote Robz

[iguanaiguana]

Vote count 5.1

faust (2): Lalight, Galzria
Lalight (1): faust
Robz888 (1): EFHW

not voting (3): Hydrad, McMcsalot, Robz888

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 5 ends, Thursday, August 02, 2018, 05:30:00 pm

[Robz888]

EFHW being scum would be petty hilarious.

[Galzria]

EFHW being scum would be petty hilarious.

Like, 75% unlikely - but hilarious.

[Galzria]

My complete no access begins tomorrow. My last check in will likely be somewhere around noon forum time. As I'm pretty convinced on faust (and yes, I've fully explored all other options in my QT with Mcmc), I do not plan on moving my vote before then. I'll be completely without access until shortly after deadline. Unfortunate, but it is what it is. Luckily I don't see my vote moving for anything short of mcmc's request, and I've asked him to let me know asap if he prefers my vote get moved.

[Hydrad]

sure

Vote: faust L-1

[EFHW]

vote: Hydrad
vote: Galzria
VOTE: ROBZ

[Robz888]

I’m acknowledging the l-1 but not hammering because I think more discussion would be beneficial.

[Galzria]

I’m acknowledging the l-1 but not hammering because I think more discussion would be beneficial.

What do you plan to discuss?

[faust]

I’m acknowledging the l-1 but not hammering because I think more discussion would be beneficial.

So it's only the two of you?

[faust]

Okay I still do not have the time or energy to deal with this right now. I am VLA. I think I can spend some time on this tomorrow.

The most important bit to remember is that my early claim D3 makes no sense for scum. Literally zero.

[faust]

It is still completely possible that Galz and Robz are both town. I would like Hydrad to unvote to give me some time, could you do that? Or LaLight, but not holding up much hope there.