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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1050 on: July 24, 2018, 04:38:26 am »

I don’t think that everything is as easy as you say it. That would be just an unbalanced game.
Sure, let us throw all evidence out of the window and vote randomly because "not everything is as easy as I say it".
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1051 on: July 24, 2018, 06:35:38 am »

My biggest scumread over the course of my reading through the game was Haddock, so that's not terribly useful. There may be a bit of bias there what with being friends IRL
Then there is hope to convince you to vote for LaLight! :P

You and gkrieg are lovely IRL too, so I have plenty of voting options ;-)

Maybe we should plan some kind of a couch-surf across the USA so we can meet some of the others who missed the Berlin gathering...
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1052 on: July 24, 2018, 09:23:05 am »

So mafia have some way to steal items. I attempted to give the sword to galz but it failed because I lost the sword. So we do not have a vig.

My guess on gkrieg is that he was 1-shot lynchproof and not 1-shot bulletproof and he lied to look towny.

I think the game would be super unbalanced if he was full lynchproof and we had to get the sword to jack to kill him.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1053 on: July 24, 2018, 09:34:56 am »

So mafia have some way to steal items. I attempted to give the sword to galz but it failed because I lost the sword. So we do not have a vig.

My guess on gkrieg is that he was 1-shot lynchproof and not 1-shot bulletproof and he lied to look towny.

I think the game would be super unbalanced if he was full lynchproof and we had to get the sword to jack to kill him.
Well, in that case Vote: gkrieg I suppose.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1054 on: July 24, 2018, 10:17:47 am »

So mafia have some way to steal items. I attempted to give the sword to galz but it failed because I lost the sword. So we do not have a vig.

My guess on gkrieg is that he was 1-shot lynchproof and not 1-shot bulletproof and he lied to look towny.

I think the game would be super unbalanced if he was full lynchproof and we had to get the sword to jack to kill him.
Well, in that case Vote: gkrieg I suppose.

Sorry, intentionally delayed my response to you waiting to hear from Mcmc, but yes, this is correct.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #1055 on: July 24, 2018, 10:47:08 am »

Vote count 4.1

gkrieg13 (2): Galzria, faust
faust (1): Lalight

not voting (6): Hydrad, McMcsalot, Spaceanemone, EFHW, gkrieg13, Robz888

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day 4 ends, Monday, July 30, 2018, 09:30:00 pm
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1056 on: July 24, 2018, 11:12:25 am »

vote: gkrieg
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1057 on: July 24, 2018, 11:15:20 am »

L-2
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1058 on: July 24, 2018, 11:20:37 am »

Hold before hammering please, confirming something with Mcmc.
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TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1059 on: July 24, 2018, 03:20:27 pm »

Alright, go ahead and light 'em up.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1060 on: July 24, 2018, 03:40:02 pm »

Hey, I thought I posted this before, but I must've made half a post and then closed some browser tabs...

Anyway, Galz, did I miss that you've neighbourised mcmc or something?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1061 on: July 24, 2018, 05:15:06 pm »

Yes we are in a qt together, there is almost nothing that would change my current town read of galz. I think we are good to head to night as long as everyone who was supposed to give or get items has claimed what happened.

vote: gkrieg

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1062 on: July 24, 2018, 05:15:16 pm »

L-1
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1063 on: July 24, 2018, 05:24:52 pm »

vote: gkrieg
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #1064 on: July 24, 2018, 05:29:14 pm »

Day 4 Final Vote Count

gkrieg13 (5): Galzria, faust, Lalight, McMcsalot, Robz888

not voting (4): Hydrad, Spaceanemone, EFHW, gkrieg13

With 8 alive, it took 5 to lynch.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1065 on: July 24, 2018, 05:34:33 pm »



gkrieg13 was Aku, an evil-aligned spirit, and the shapeshifting master of disguise.

Night Four begins now and ends Thursday, July 26, 2018, 05:30:00 pm Night actions are due by Thursday, July 26, 2018, 09:30:00 am

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day four!)
« Reply #1066 on: July 26, 2018, 05:28:42 pm »



SpaceAnemone has died in the night! They were Tam Sung, a good-aligned spirit, and a 1-shot granter of reveal essence.

Day 5 Starts now!

Vote count 5.0

not voting (7): faust, Hydrad, McMcsalot, Lalight, EFHW, Galzria, Robz888

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 5 ends, Thursday, August 02, 2018, 05:30:00 pm

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1067 on: July 27, 2018, 12:27:04 am »

Hello.

I'm alive.

Feel bad for space who got like 2 posts lol.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1068 on: July 27, 2018, 12:55:38 am »

Hello.

I'm alive.

Feel bad for space who got like 2 posts lol.

Not surprised by the kill at all tbh.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1069 on: July 27, 2018, 01:26:02 am »

so. In my opinion I think the only people it could be is lalight and faust.

Like basically everyone else is almost conftown to me.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1070 on: July 27, 2018, 01:26:26 am »

well I guess you could include me as well in that. but I'm not including myself.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1071 on: July 27, 2018, 01:38:33 am »

so. In my opinion I think the only people it could be is lalight and faust.

Like basically everyone else is almost conftown to me.

Robz could still be scum. We have no idea really. But he's not part of the Mafia team most likely unless Mafia could use the sword last night and targeted him for a secondary kill that recruited him.

It's not worth considering right now though - or until we lynch the final original member. Likewise you could be town that converted to scum - but also not worth considering at this time.

Other than that, I completely agree with you.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1072 on: July 27, 2018, 01:56:01 am »

For the record, on the topic of number of scum:

2 scum in 9 is standard
3 scum in 13 is standard
2 1/2 (Traitor) in 12 with Robz increased strength is about par.

Taking into account alignment switches, if we started at 3 1/2 scum with the possibility for town to turn scum, that's a potential for 5 of 12 players to be scum. Far too unrealistic. If we assume 2 1/2 scum with the possibility for town to turn scum, that's a potential for 4 players (3 1/2 scum) to be scum - a little high, but not crazy if town runs well. With IDPTG's power, Datswan's power, Haddock's power, and potentially LaLight's power, that's certainly a reasonable chance. On the flip side, assuming Robz goes town, scum could be weakened to 2 players in 12. Definitely a little weak - but also accounted for by Gkrieg being lynch proof and possibly bullet proof as well. Add in a higher than average potential for a Vig to hit town here and it's all pretty balanced.

All that is to say we EITHER started at 2 1/2 scum with double alignment switch possible (most likely), or 3 1/2 scum and there's no town -> scum mechanic.

Personally I find the former more likely.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1073 on: July 27, 2018, 02:32:01 am »

vote: faust, there was a motion there. Can we lynch him now?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day five!)
« Reply #1074 on: July 27, 2018, 03:19:20 am »

vote: faust, there was a motion there. Can we lynch him now?
Well I received Space's item and got my 1-shot power made permanent... so certainly there would be a motion. I targeted mcmc, which turned out to be the wrong choice.

Anyway I don't really see how it couldn't be LaLight, so vote: LaLight
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