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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #900 on: July 19, 2018, 02:11:50 pm »

I think the scummiest thing mcmc has done is not give the sword up to galzria.

Check my track record. I don’t think vigs should shoot why would town!mcmc potentially make galz a vigilante when the downside is potentially giving scum an extra night kill. There is nothing to say samurai jack is town, and there is nothing to say there isn’t a scum who is a samurai and can use the sword. Again the sword says any samurai can use it not just jack.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #901 on: July 19, 2018, 02:12:13 pm »

Also items and role would be revealed as well, which doesn't seem like it would matter much at this point, but still a big consideration.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #902 on: July 19, 2018, 02:13:03 pm »

Not taking advantage of the reveal essence to become a near-IC is very, very scummy. This whole "oh but what if I was disguised" business doesn't add up... I mean, that's something mafia would worry about. Like, a townie would get this, use it, be happy to be confirmed town, and not fret the whole disguise business.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #903 on: July 19, 2018, 02:13:30 pm »

I think the scummiest thing mcmc has done is not give the sword up to galzria.

Check my track record. I don’t think vigs should shoot why would town!mcmc potentially make galz a vigilante when the downside is potentially giving scum an extra night kill. There is nothing to say samurai jack is town, and there is nothing to say there isn’t a scum who is a samurai and can use the sword. Again the sword says any samurai can use it not just jack.

I get that, but I really think it is unlikely that scum are given an extra kill if there are 3 scum in 12 people (especially with 4 scum in 12 people as some are suggesting.)
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #904 on: July 19, 2018, 02:15:20 pm »

There are two separate things going on here.

1) if the power makes me an ic it’s absolutely smart of me to wait to use it until I have to every day I don’t use it is one day later I get to be an ic. There is a reason day 2 ic is better than regular ic. My thought day 4 ic is better than day 3 ic.

2) I would assume idptg was aware of the caveat that if you are wearing a disguise that is what’s revealed. If I was idptg that would be the first thing I would say after the person used the ability to inform everyone it’s not guaranteed the player who used the ability is town. So the end result would just be that the mod reveals I have samurai jacks sword.

So I reiterate who should I have used the ability?

What if you weren’t disguised then, but is disguised now and that’s why you postponed?

I mean I guess that is a possibility. Its a stretch but sure if you find me so scummy you can make that argument. I’ll go back to the fact is it would be very weird for me to be a scum who started with samurai jacks sword, and have some kind of a disguise mechanic, especially one that is delayed.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #905 on: July 19, 2018, 02:17:49 pm »

I urge all mcmc voters to stop and unvote please. You have expressed your suspicions, I don't want an early lynch. This game has been wrecked sufficiently by town suspecting one another as it is.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #906 on: July 19, 2018, 02:20:14 pm »

I think the scummiest thing mcmc has done is not give the sword up to galzria.

Check my track record. I don’t think vigs should shoot why would town!mcmc potentially make galz a vigilante when the downside is potentially giving scum an extra night kill. There is nothing to say samurai jack is town, and there is nothing to say there isn’t a scum who is a samurai and can use the sword. Again the sword says any samurai can use it not just jack.

I get that, but I really think it is unlikely that scum are given an extra kill if there are 3 scum in 12 people (especially with 4 scum in 12 people as some are suggesting.)

I agree with what your saying but since the wording was such that any samurai could use the sword and that I could potentially become a samurai it makes it possible (though slight) that there is scum who can use the sword. And again combine that with the fact that I don’t think a cig should shoot on early days I didn’t find it smart to give galz the sword.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #907 on: July 19, 2018, 02:22:58 pm »

I am Woolie, a 1-shot Bodyguard beast

Last night, I targeted Galzria. I claimed protective role early because this role is super inconsequential. I tried hard to get killed last night by either protecting Galzria or making scum believe I was Robz' lover. I am not actually Robz' lover though.

I also have an item (bagpipes) that can be used by a Scotsman. I assume that EFHW was the only Scotsman in the game, what with the show taking place in Japan. So I never really did anything with it. I thought about maybe sending it to another town as some kind of signal that I wasn't roleblocked or something, but it never seemed important. The item would enable EFHW to roleblock another player.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #908 on: July 19, 2018, 02:25:55 pm »

I will say that Idplay has become my top townread, and that gkrieg's claim is super suspicious, and that gkrieg and LaLight are very likely partners.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #909 on: July 19, 2018, 02:26:42 pm »

Hydrad and galz are all that’s left.

Still no lover claim.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #910 on: July 19, 2018, 02:30:16 pm »

I am also left. I am Max, a good-aligned machine and a motion detector.

I have no idea how good is motion-detector in rmms but here we are: first night i targeted Robz, second night Haddock. Both had some motions there.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #911 on: July 19, 2018, 02:34:23 pm »

I am also left. I am Max, a good-aligned machine and a motion detector.

I have no idea how good is motion-detector in rmms but here we are: first night i targeted Robz, second night Haddock. Both had some motions there.

Do you detect item movement as well as role targeting?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #912 on: July 19, 2018, 02:34:38 pm »

I will say that Idplay has become my top townread, and that gkrieg's claim is super suspicious, and that gkrieg and LaLight are very likely partners.

What a coincidence, idptg is my town read now as well and i think you and gkrieg are partners
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #913 on: July 19, 2018, 02:35:21 pm »

I am also left. I am Max, a good-aligned machine and a motion detector.

I have no idea how good is motion-detector in rmms but here we are: first night i targeted Robz, second night Haddock. Both had some motions there.

Do you detect item movement as well as role targeting?

Yes, any targeted movements. Oh, and I didn’t have any items
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #914 on: July 19, 2018, 02:36:08 pm »

Lynching gkrieg looks the best. We collectively think he’s scummy, this will give mcmc a chance to be an ic
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #915 on: July 19, 2018, 02:37:36 pm »

Hydrad up
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #916 on: July 19, 2018, 02:40:45 pm »

There are two separate things going on here.

1) if the power makes me an ic it’s absolutely smart of me to wait to use it until I have to every day I don’t use it is one day later I get to be an ic. There is a reason day 2 ic is better than regular ic. My thought day 4 ic is better than day 3 ic.
So I reiterate who should I have used the ability?

Delaying IC a night or two is good, but there's no way town!you would seriously think you could get away with delaying it another night when this is possibly MYLO.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #917 on: July 19, 2018, 02:42:23 pm »

I urge all mcmc voters to stop and unvote please. You have expressed your suspicions, I don't want an early lynch. This game has been wrecked sufficiently by town suspecting one another as it is.

I think quicklynching mcmc before the massclaim proceeded would have been a good idea, but now that virtually everyone has claimed, it's not important.

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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #918 on: July 19, 2018, 02:43:25 pm »

There are two separate things going on here.

1) if the power makes me an ic it’s absolutely smart of me to wait to use it until I have to every day I don’t use it is one day later I get to be an ic. There is a reason day 2 ic is better than regular ic. My thought day 4 ic is better than day 3 ic.
So I reiterate who should I have used the ability?

Delaying IC a night or two is good, but there's no way town!you would seriously think you could get away with delaying it another night when this is possibly MYLO.

I do not think this is mylo. It’s only mylo if you are actually a love and you and your lover die.
Even if we were certain that’s the case we would absolutely want to no lynch and then I could use it.

You’re scum or stupid which is what gives me such confidence you are scum.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #919 on: July 19, 2018, 02:54:03 pm »

There are two separate things going on here.

1) if the power makes me an ic it’s absolutely smart of me to wait to use it until I have to every day I don’t use it is one day later I get to be an ic. There is a reason day 2 ic is better than regular ic. My thought day 4 ic is better than day 3 ic.
So I reiterate who should I have used the ability?

Delaying IC a night or two is good, but there's no way town!you would seriously think you could get away with delaying it another night when this is possibly MYLO.

I do not think this is mylo. It’s only mylo if you are actually a love and you and your lover die.
Even if we were certain that’s the case we would absolutely want to no lynch and then I could use it.

You’re scum or stupid which is what gives me such confidence you are scum.

Nah ah, YOU are scum or stupid.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #920 on: July 19, 2018, 02:57:43 pm »

There are two separate things going on here.

1) if the power makes me an ic it’s absolutely smart of me to wait to use it until I have to every day I don’t use it is one day later I get to be an ic. There is a reason day 2 ic is better than regular ic. My thought day 4 ic is better than day 3 ic.
So I reiterate who should I have used the ability?

Delaying IC a night or two is good, but there's no way town!you would seriously think you could get away with delaying it another night when this is possibly MYLO.

I do not think this is mylo. It’s only mylo if you are actually a love and you and your lover die.
Even if we were certain that’s the case we would absolutely want to no lynch and then I could use it.

You’re scum or stupid which is what gives me such confidence you are scum.

Nah ah, YOU are scum or stupid.

 :) also the hilarity behind the fact that you think it would have been good for town to quicklynch me and thus not need your partner to claim for another day when at this point we almost certainly don’t have a protective role makes me laugh.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #921 on: July 19, 2018, 03:00:40 pm »

It's impossible to know whether it's MYLO right now, it's probably not but it could be. We don't exactly know how many scum there are or how many kills they get or how possible it is to protect townies from dying.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #922 on: July 19, 2018, 03:01:52 pm »

There are two separate things going on here.

1) if the power makes me an ic it’s absolutely smart of me to wait to use it until I have to every day I don’t use it is one day later I get to be an ic. There is a reason day 2 ic is better than regular ic. My thought day 4 ic is better than day 3 ic.
So I reiterate who should I have used the ability?

Delaying IC a night or two is good, but there's no way town!you would seriously think you could get away with delaying it another night when this is possibly MYLO.

I do not think this is mylo. It’s only mylo if you are actually a love and you and your lover die.
Even if we were certain that’s the case we would absolutely want to no lynch and then I could use it.

You’re scum or stupid which is what gives me such confidence you are scum.

Nah ah, YOU are scum or stupid.

 :) also the hilarity behind the fact that you think it would have been good for town to quicklynch me and thus not need your partner to claim for another day when at this point we almost certainly don’t have a protective role makes me laugh.

Flagging this post so I can make fun of you later for being so wrong.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #923 on: July 19, 2018, 03:02:47 pm »

I am Woolie, a 1-shot Bodyguard beast

Last night, I targeted Galzria. I claimed protective role early because this role is super inconsequential. I tried hard to get killed last night by either protecting Galzria or making scum believe I was Robz' lover. I am not actually Robz' lover though.

I also have an item (bagpipes) that can be used by a Scotsman. I assume that EFHW was the only Scotsman in the game, what with the show taking place in Japan. So I never really did anything with it. I thought about maybe sending it to another town as some kind of signal that I wasn't roleblocked or something, but it never seemed important. The item would enable EFHW to roleblock another player.

Hold on but why would you try to get killed? I get protecting galz as he is possibly an important character, but why act like robz lover in an attempt to get shot at. Why not pretend you didn’t believe robz was a lover and then bodyguard him to prevent the double night kill? Basically I don’t see the value in you acting like robz lover?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #924 on: July 19, 2018, 03:04:52 pm »

I am Woolie, a 1-shot Bodyguard beast

Last night, I targeted Galzria. I claimed protective role early because this role is super inconsequential. I tried hard to get killed last night by either protecting Galzria or making scum believe I was Robz' lover. I am not actually Robz' lover though.

I also have an item (bagpipes) that can be used by a Scotsman. I assume that EFHW was the only Scotsman in the game, what with the show taking place in Japan. So I never really did anything with it. I thought about maybe sending it to another town as some kind of signal that I wasn't roleblocked or something, but it never seemed important. The item would enable EFHW to roleblock another player.

Hold on but why would you try to get killed? I get protecting galz as he is possibly an important character, but why act like robz lover in an attempt to get shot at. Why not pretend you didn’t believe robz was a lover and then bodyguard him to prevent the double night kill? Basically I don’t see the value in you acting like robz lover?

How would pretending he didn't believe me result in me getting shot at?
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