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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #450 on: May 18, 2018, 11:23:13 pm »

So here is where I am at in regards to the night actions last night:

1) Skum chose to not shoot Robz
- Why: I think the only answer is that they have a blocking role and they found it more efficient to block Robz and kill someone else. This could mean either...
a) They were worried Robz would be protected at night. So RB/JK blocks Robz and they kill elsewhere.
b) They were trying to be efficient with kills and get Robz to waste second shot and not waste a NK.
c) A combination of both.

2) Skum did try to shoot Robz
- Why: Well other than the obvious answer it would suggest they probably don't have a blocking role I guess? I feel like if they did they would choose to block him. So...
a) They shot Robz, he was protected, and we have a Vig that shot WW (or flipped kills).
b) They shot Robz, he was protected, and they had a Vig shot that killed WW (or flipped kills).



This makes the idea of Mass Claiming kind of interesting imo. At first I was all for it, and I still might be, but this has put a pause on it at least. I am currently leaning that it is more likely that Skum has a blocking role. So if they do, and they used it last night to ensure Robz does not have another incriminating result, by mass claiming we pretty much just give them targets to choose from for their block, while still allowing them to shoot Robz.
The upside would obviously be cornering them, but honestly I like Robz idea the most at this point about assigning order and agreeing it is done tomorrow.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #451 on: May 18, 2018, 11:46:23 pm »

That worked out well.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #452 on: May 18, 2018, 11:55:10 pm »

Except jimmm took tracker, which is unfortunate.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #453 on: May 19, 2018, 02:20:20 am »

OK also just gonna ask - robz any value you see in claiming whether or not you have any more information to provide at this point?
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #454 on: May 19, 2018, 02:33:40 am »

Opinions requested:
Would skum generally value the JK slot over the MD/NZ slot, or the other way around?


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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #455 on: May 19, 2018, 02:35:54 am »

PPS - I am humbly asking you to clarify on what you meant by you are 100% sure the vig is in the game. We have played around with it a lot, but at this point it a piece of the puzzle that is needed.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #456 on: May 19, 2018, 02:37:15 am »

Except jimmm took tracker, which is unfortunate.

Also to this note, we can assume that if skum was the only faction that shot last night (meaning no Vig) that Jimmm tracked a VT on N1 (or Robz I guess)
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #457 on: May 19, 2018, 02:38:08 am »

Except jimmm took tracker, which is unfortunate.

Also to this note, we can assume that if skum was the only faction that shot last night (meaning no Vig) that Jimmm tracked a VT on N1 (or Robz I guess)

Or I guess a PR that did not shoot. but from their perspective, they would interpret that as VT by default I think.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #458 on: May 19, 2018, 09:06:51 am »

PPS - I am humbly asking you to clarify on what you meant by you are 100% sure the vig is in the game. We have played around with it a lot, but at this point it a piece of the puzzle that is needed.

Considering you are in my top scum reads I’ll pass on further clarification for your sake. I’m fine with full claiming in a provided order from someone other than yourself.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #459 on: May 19, 2018, 11:14:13 am »

Okay, well, I have another night result. IDP / schadd is scum.

I am the 2-Shot Alignment Cop, by the way. I got position #1 in the draft, and picked Cop. Cops are underrated in draft games, for some reason, so my thinking was perhaps I wouldn't displace too many lower-positioned townies.

My strategy was to investigate people I thought would be unlikely to absorb a mafia kill. What do you know, it worked.

Assuming that I am dead tomorrow, and it appears that massclaiming is wise, here is the order:

2.7, PPS, Cuzz, Awaclus, Space, Hydrad

This order is deliberate.

Let's not end the day yet, if anybody has any useful night knowledge we could theoretically wrap the game up right here.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #460 on: May 19, 2018, 11:19:22 am »

If anybody has blocking powers, they are likely town, since scum should have at least blocked me last night, but evidently didn't.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #461 on: May 19, 2018, 11:30:32 am »

 Nice. I don't have any useful night knowledge to contribute to the group
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #462 on: May 19, 2018, 11:55:03 am »

Nice. I don't have any useful night knowledge to contribute to the group

Same.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #463 on: May 19, 2018, 11:56:33 am »

Nice. I don't have any useful night knowledge to contribute to the group

Same.

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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #464 on: May 19, 2018, 11:58:00 am »

also I think you missed datswan in your claim list.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #465 on: May 19, 2018, 12:08:43 pm »

You hit 2 scum with 2 shots? Damn.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #466 on: May 19, 2018, 12:14:58 pm »

also I think you missed datswan in your claim list.

Oops. (This undermines my claim that the list was deliberate and thought out... but it is!)

Claim order: 2.7, PPS, Cuzz, Awaclus, DatSwan, Space, Hydrad
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #467 on: May 19, 2018, 01:17:52 pm »

Part of me wants Robz to be scum who outed a partner and did the math to seal the win by leading us to a certain mislynch but I am not seeing it. Good job landing the MVP by Day 3! There was discussion of game breaking mechanics resulting from the draft but it looks like proper use of a role power is all it took. I’m hopeful to find that I drew the roleblock last night if there was one.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #468 on: May 19, 2018, 01:18:24 pm »

Also, I like that Robz is shot out so he isn’t even a good target now.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #469 on: May 19, 2018, 01:27:46 pm »

Okay, well, I have another night result. IDP / schadd is scum.

Lol, what? No. I'm not sure how you're saying you got that result unless you're just looking for a reaction.

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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #470 on: May 19, 2018, 01:29:32 pm »

Okay, well, I have another night result. IDP / schadd is scum.

Lol, what? No. I'm not sure how you're saying you got that result unless you're just looking for a reaction.

It is interesting that the reaction here is "Lol, what?" instead of "Vote:Robz"
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #471 on: May 19, 2018, 01:46:06 pm »

We will need to hear from Space, and then we can proceed to with the lynch.
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #472 on: May 19, 2018, 02:08:52 pm »

Okay, well, I have another night result. IDP / schadd is scum.

Lol, what? No. I'm not sure how you're saying you got that result unless you're just looking for a reaction.

It is interesting that the reaction here is "Lol, what?" instead of "Vote:Robz"

You think I think Robz came out of nowhere with that D2 bus to secure a D3 mislynch?

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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #473 on: May 19, 2018, 02:16:56 pm »

Okay, well, I have another night result. IDP / schadd is scum.

Lol, what? No. I'm not sure how you're saying you got that result unless you're just looking for a reaction.

It is interesting that the reaction here is "Lol, what?" instead of "Vote:Robz"

You think I think Robz came out of nowhere with that D2 bus to secure a D3 mislynch?

Either you are scum or you should think Robz is scum who is framing you, which should make you want to vote for him. What is the other option?
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Re: Mafia 116: The Magicians Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #474 on: May 19, 2018, 02:22:51 pm »

Okay, well, I have another night result. IDP / schadd is scum.

Lol, what? No. I'm not sure how you're saying you got that result unless you're just looking for a reaction.

It is interesting that the reaction here is "Lol, what?" instead of "Vote:Robz"

You think I think Robz came out of nowhere with that D2 bus to secure a D3 mislynch?

Either you are scum or you should think Robz is scum who is framing you, which should make you want to vote for him. What is the other option?

Zealous town fishing for a potential free Cop result. It's a fairly common tactic in some of the IRL games I play and I don't see why it wouldn't be worth a try here.
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