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[Witherweaver]

So did ash's order claim joke just get him out of having to claim his actual number without looking noticeably scummy for it?

No.  I was firmly in the anti camp from the beginning.

And what is your stance now?

[Jimmmmm]

I was going to say why do people even suggest massclaiming on Day 1? Even if it was a good thing to do, you can never get everyone to participate. Now it seems most people are participating, so there you go. I'm between Arch and TWM.

[gkrieg13]

If four more people participate then it doesn't matter if ash participates.

[ashersky]

So did ash's order claim joke just get him out of having to claim his actual number without looking noticeably scummy for it?

No.  I was firmly in the anti camp from the beginning.

And what is your stance now?

If four more people participate then it doesn't matter if ash participates.

[O]

I'm still trying to figure out the tangible benefit that down gets from claiming draft positions...

Actually I never understood why e fucked up so badly in M100 and didn't just claim his own draft number in the first place.

[O]

down = town

[gkrieg13]

It will help because scum won't be able to fakeclaim a different position in the draft later.  If Space now claims to be VT, that is pretty unlikely, and they are probably scum.

If scum took any of the scummier slots, it will be much harder for them to claim to have taken a different slot and failed and are VT now.

[Witherweaver]

Hmm... scummier slots?

[O]

I feel like they can still fake claim VT as long as its not... 5? or up.

[gkrieg13]

Hmm... scummier slots?

Some slots have much better scum powers than town powers. 

I feel like they can still fake claim VT as long as its not... 5? or up.

True, but that at least helps a little bit.  I think it helps more than it hurts.

[Galzria]

Hmm... scummier slots?

Some slots have much better scum powers than town powers. 

I feel like they can still fake claim VT as long as its not... 5? or up.

True, but that at least helps a little bit.  I think it helps more than it hurts.

I will happily eat crow to be wrong - but I strongly believe we've handed scum a huge advantage this game by doing the claim.

[gkrieg13]

When we finally do the mass claim of roles, we should do them in reverse draft order.  I think that also gives fewer ways to lie about what you got.

[Galzria]

When we finally do the mass claim of roles, we should do them in reverse draft order.  I think that also gives fewer ways to lie about what you got.

Because of what I know, I strongly disagree - but I'm debating claiming now because of my knowledge. It breaks what I would hope to achieve by claiming top down (lowest numerical to highest), but gives town an important piece of information.

[gkrieg13]

I'm guessing that has to do with your role?  I think in general, it should be better to start at lowest draft number because if it is scum that got a role that is scummy and they want to claim to have gotten VT, they have to claim going for a slot that was already gone for, which I guess they already know what their scumbuddies got...

Ok never mind, not the best plan.

[mcmcsalot]

I want you to help yourselves...

Vote Count 1.3

gkrieg (2): O, faust
O (1): 2.71828
LaLight (1): IDontPlayThisGame
Galzria (1): Teproc
ashersky (1): gkrieg
Eevee (1): Witherweaver
Witherweaver (2): The_Wine_Merchant, Eevee

Note Voting (8):  Archetype, DatSwan, Qvist, ashersky, SpaceAnemone, Jimmmmm, Lalight, Galzria

With 17 alive it takes 9 to lynch. Day 1 ends Monday, September 18th, at 3:00 PM.

[O]

Yea I'm  so down for lynching Gkrieg or e for this disaster of a plan.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I don't think I have actually stated this but I am personally in favor of a mass claim.

Sooner rather than later in terms of game days. Later in terms of actual today.

Interested to see who has only participated in theory or discussing claiming. Feel like scum is more likely to be there.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Yea I'm  so down for lynching Gkrieg or e for this disaster of a plan.

Hm. Hope I didn't just get added to your list.

[SpaceAnemone]

It's weird being in the forum time timezone, because things aren't happening at the times of day I feel used to. Like, shouldn't 9pm-ish be busier than this? I'm actually still jetlagged enough that it's pretty much bedtime now.. no point in getting over my 5-hour displacement when I'm flying home on Thursday anyway.

[SpaceAnemone]

Oh.. one downside of going straight to a claiming plan and skipping over the most painfully awkward RVS stuff: I haven't had a chance to say hi to the people I don't know and do the pronoun thing before I start getting misgendered.

So, hi Datswan and Qvist... I haven't played with either of you before, have I? I'm Space, and I use they/them pronouns in here by preference, or she/her if people find that too difficult. Thanks :-)

[Witherweaver]

Yea I'm  so down for lynching Gkrieg or e for this disaster of a plan.

Gkrieg I can do.  e I don't think so.

[Witherweaver]

So are all the people that haven't submitted their number opposed to the plan and not going to?

[O]

I have no plans to do so currently, no.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I have no plans to do so currently, no.

OK. Fine. You can say all the numbers currently unclaimed except for the one that is yours. Then you can do what we want but keep your pride.

[O]

I can confirm I'm not 1,2,5,7,8,9,10,12,14,15,16, a non integer value, a negative integer, or an integer greater than 20.