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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3875 on: June 20, 2017, 07:16:39 pm »

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O's recent-ish posts trying to paint himself as not-that-scummy really don't impress me at all

What does that even mean? You think I should say "IM SUPER SCUMMY PLEASE LYNCH ME?" You're annoyed at my posting style? What exactly is irking you? All I see is frequent complaint about me from you that are nearly contentless and anti-town since they don't contain anything that's reasonable to respond to.

I'm sorry if you feel I'm making it personal about targeting you. That honestly isn't the case. What I meant by my post is that your explanation for how you're "in the middle of the scumminess from an observer POV" was not impressing me or giving me confidence in your towniness. I'm not sure how much you could have contributed in just #3857 that could have led me to town-read you.

I do support your complaint that LL was misreading your stated intentions earlier in the game, and I'm voting for LL because I think there are lots of little things that point to him maybe being scum.

Your interactions towards me have been nothing but weird and scummy the past few days so I might aswell jump on my read. It seems likely you're trying to set up two town lynches in a row by going with the common lynch then pushing me, while leaving yourself relatively untainted.

I got "tainted" enough in D1/D2 by being overwhelmed in the early game, really. I'd like to think that my engineering of the claiming exercise and then my subsequent presence on more scum/SK lynch wagons than anyone else in the game (thanks for that count, Dylan!) makes most people see that I'm working for town.

I think you're referring to my two pairs of likely scums in #3860 when you're on about "two town lynches in a row". It's a fact that I just don't know for sure who the last two scums are, so I'm picking at wagons trying to link everything together, and it feels to me like one of each of those pairs gives the most likely wagon distribution. I mean, take a look at the wagon on Andrew at #2558 in my last post. From a town!O point of view, which apparently includes a town-read on Galz, then isn't it very highly likely that LL is scum, rather than there being no scum other than iguana on that whole 10-person wagon?

Lastly, you've admitted yourself that your play has been pretty much "middle of the scumminess" levels. Therefore, anyone who names four players out of a possible seven as higher-likelihood scums is probably going to pull your name up. It's really not a personal attack.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3876 on: June 20, 2017, 07:23:23 pm »

Iguana reread:

He votes for Galzria and Ash early on, saying they're for wagons.

He says he likes O in #511.

He defends RR in #522.

Faust takes iguana off of his lunch menu in #538.  He defends this a few posts later in #546 saying that he's just there because faust likes him.

Iguana votes for Galzria in #1253.

He votes for Galzria again in #1773, on D2.

Way later, Galzria puts iguana in a middle section of a lynch order list in #2198.

Dylan puts iguana in null in #2243.

Iguana threatens to vote faust in #2447.

RR votes for him in #2637.

Faust rereads him in #3511, and says that he's been a bit scummy, but the main thing is that he's done nothing that looks like town.

LaLight says he's scummy in #3520.

Iguana says in #3530 that faust and ash could both be scum, and that Galz or Jake is probably on the team as well.

Faust makes a reads list in #3588, and iguana is second scummiest (with ash on the bottom).

Faust keeps saying he's scum in D5.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3877 on: June 20, 2017, 07:25:36 pm »

I've got to take a break again, but Vote: faust.  He and scum have had way too many pointless interactions, and their reads of each other have never looked good.  I think scum planned everything with faust and ash to try to make faust look townier.  I'll put together a better case later.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3878 on: June 20, 2017, 07:29:06 pm »

We have just under 4 days till the next deadline, which is 5pm forum time on Saturday.

Who's around? Who's got VLAs coming up/in force? As far as I can see from the VLA thread, we're about to lose Dylan for a really long time (like most of D7??), but should just have regained RR?

The pace has tailed off a lot, and while I think it's pretty good to give everyone a chance to pick over wagons, re-read certain people and mull over our situation, I do think we need to start being a bit careful of the time we have.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3879 on: June 20, 2017, 07:31:32 pm »

We have just under 4 days till the next deadline, which is 5pm forum time on Saturday.

Who's around? Who's got VLAs coming up/in force? As far as I can see from the VLA thread, we're about to lose Dylan for a really long time (like most of D7??), but should just have regained RR?

The pace has tailed off a lot, and while I think it's pretty good to give everyone a chance to pick over wagons, re-read certain people and mull over our situation, I do think we need to start being a bit careful of the time we have.

I'll not be here on Saturday, on a plane.  I don't need to be around for the lynch, but it would be nice.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 4
« Reply #3880 on: June 20, 2017, 07:34:25 pm »

Sudgy's iguana-read post just liked back to this reads thing by faust back in D4:

Trying to gather up all reads, town to scum.

Jimmmmm
Awaclus

Roadrunner
Dylan
Galzria (this hinges a bit on ashersky flipping scum)

Jake
Space

LaLight
O

sudgy
iguana

ashersky

-- the bottom two were spot on :-) What made you put Dylan so high up on the town part of the list, though?
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3881 on: June 20, 2017, 09:12:55 pm »

About my VLA, it is mostly V rather than LA, so it should just be a matter of "how much time do I have to post" more so than "will I have access".  So I'll be able to check in and move my vote at the very least, but activity might not be where anyone--myself very much included--would like it to be.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 4
« Reply #3882 on: June 20, 2017, 09:23:08 pm »

Sudgy's iguana-read post just liked back to this reads thing by faust back in D4:

Trying to gather up all reads, town to scum.

Jimmmmm
Awaclus

Roadrunner
Dylan
Galzria (this hinges a bit on ashersky flipping scum)

Jake
Space

LaLight
O

sudgy
iguana

ashersky

-- the bottom two were spot on :-) What made you put Dylan so high up on the town part of the list, though?

If I remember correctly, faust has read me correctly in most games we've been in. I could absolutely be wrong, but he had it spot on D1 in squidgirl at least.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3883 on: June 21, 2017, 02:34:49 am »

 'm home, but headed to bed. I'm read up and current, and I know deadline is approaching (Saturday - not like, hours from now) - so I'll try and find time tomorrow to skim through and put down some thoughts on O, LL, Space and Faust (those 4 in particular, and in order).

I also want to find the time to look at Dylan and RR more closely. RR in particular because I think he walked with town cred (I know I gave him a bunch) after the 2.7 thing... But as 2.7 flipped SK I'm not sure it actually says anything about RR's alignment.

But they're not as high a priority for me right now.

There's also some thoughts I've had while I was gone about the NK's, but I need to go back and read some stuff from 2.7.

All in all - I'll try to get through some of this tomorrow. Probably not all of it. Unless something really, really strikes me though, I don't see anybody coming up as more likely scum than Sudgy.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3884 on: June 21, 2017, 12:40:31 pm »

I have a secret weapon to confirm myself as town if need be, but that makes me a high NK target so I'd prefer not to.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3885 on: June 21, 2017, 12:55:33 pm »

I have a secret weapon to confirm myself as town if need be, but that makes me a high NK target so I'd prefer not to.
Vote: RR

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3886 on: June 21, 2017, 01:40:21 pm »

RR, why are your posts from the last two gamedays are so hedgy and scummy?
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 4
« Reply #3887 on: June 21, 2017, 01:42:29 pm »

-- the bottom two were spot on :-) What made you put Dylan so high up on the town part of the list, though?
I remember a reread D1 or D2 that led me to think he was town. Don't remember the details. But I haven't seen anything scummy from him since.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3888 on: June 21, 2017, 05:34:16 pm »

RR, why are your posts from the last two gamedays are so hedgy and scummy?
Because I plan to be scummy then later reveal my master plan?
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3889 on: June 21, 2017, 06:10:39 pm »

RR, why are your posts from the last two gamedays are so hedgy and scummy?
Because I plan to be scummy then later reveal my master plan?

scummy Roadrunner jokes are scummy Roadrunner
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 4
« Reply #3890 on: June 21, 2017, 08:22:06 pm »

-- the bottom two were spot on :-) What made you put Dylan so high up on the town part of the list, though?
I remember a reread D1 or D2 that led me to think he was town. Don't remember the details. But I haven't seen anything scummy from him since.

His voting pattern is really similar to sudgy's, even though sudgy's posts are rather lurkier and less helpful. I think I'm all for lynching sudgy, but this is my last niggle. If you're able to point out anything that you find particularly towny, that would be great :-)
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3891 on: June 21, 2017, 08:23:29 pm »

RR, why are your posts from the last two gamedays are so hedgy and scummy?
Because I plan to be scummy then later reveal my master plan?

scummy Roadrunner jokes are scummy Roadrunner

Urgh :-(
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3892 on: June 21, 2017, 08:23:56 pm »

RR, why are your posts from the last two gamedays are so hedgy and scummy?
Because I plan to be scummy then later reveal my master plan?

scummy Roadrunner jokes are scummy Roadrunner

Urgh :-(
Do you disagree? Or are you sad that's true?
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« Reply #3893 on: June 21, 2017, 08:26:57 pm »

RR, why are your posts from the last two gamedays are so hedgy and scummy?
Because I plan to be scummy then later reveal my master plan?

scummy Roadrunner jokes are scummy Roadrunner

Urgh :-(
Do you disagree? Or are you sad that's true?

Mostly I agree with Dylan and am sad that it's true.

If you're responding so quickly to things, how about you do some reading and cases and stuff while you're actually around?

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« Reply #3894 on: June 21, 2017, 09:23:23 pm »

To be clear, I wasn't actually meaning that as any sort of insult to your play RR. Just saying that it is definitely you back from your VLA and not someone posing as you.  I agree with Space that it would be nice if you would chip in some stuff. You did kind of get a pass when e flipped SK, but that doesn't really give you as much towncred as it takes away the scum points you would have got with any other flip there. Sooooo, if you could prove you are town, that'd be great
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« Reply #3895 on: June 21, 2017, 09:24:53 pm »

To be clear, I wasn't actually meaning that as any sort of insult to your play RR. Just saying that it is definitely you back from your VLA and not someone posing as you.  I agree with Space that it would be nice if you would chip in some stuff. You did kind of get a pass when e flipped SK, but that doesn't really give you as much towncred as it takes away the scum points you would have got with any other flip there. Sooooo, if you could prove you are town, that'd be great
No, I wasn't insulted at all. And I'm gonna get right on my iguana!interactions thing right now.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 6
« Reply #3896 on: June 21, 2017, 09:31:32 pm »

I reread iguana's play the day he was lynched and the day ashersky was lynched. I got towny vibes from Galzaria and SA. Also faust a little bit.
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« Reply #3897 on: June 21, 2017, 09:32:40 pm »

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 O
LaLight
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There's the pool. Preferences are sudgy > Lalight >>>> Dylan >>>>> O
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« Reply #3898 on: June 21, 2017, 11:20:29 pm »

Yo dude, you want to put some meat on those opinions? Like, that was literally the safest pool and the least info you could have possibly given.
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« Reply #3899 on: June 22, 2017, 12:00:34 am »

Yo dude, you want to put some meat on those opinions? Like, that was literally the safest pool and the least info you could have possibly given.
Safest pool? I think it's the best pool, I'm not really worried about what people think about it. That's just what I think.
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