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[LaLight]

Well yeah. Though I would make the case that scum!ashersky did not choose that slot at all.

it's either this or that. He was caught by e flipping purple, there's nothing really to talk about

[faust]

Thinking about it, vote: ashersky

He's just too likely to have a crucial scum role.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I'm at work all day and won't be able to contribute much until tonight at a minimum. I've also just accepted a job offer that is going to see me going through a major transition over the next few weeks (official start date of July 5th - but I'll be on a business trip from the 18th through the 23rd, and I'll be swamped trying to make everything go smoothly until then).

Regarding who I jailed last night:

I am holding off my N3 result (you know why)

I want this revealed first.

I jailed one of Ashersky, mcmc, or my highest scum read last night. I'm guessing Jake tracked me (I would in his position):

and where exactly was our Jailkeeper?

I would like to know that

And knows that my above statement is true. Until Ash reveals what his n3 results were though I will not say who I jailed.

Oh my lord just claim. It's directly slowing down other claims.

[Galzria]

He fakeclaimed something safe from the same slot he won.  I was convinced he was WW with Galz due to this tactic, which makes sense if you look at the JK slot.  Galz won the conversion, faked JK; Faust joined him, faked Vig.

Also, that's not how WW conversion works. Even if I won the conversion, I would be given a VT partner, not a PR partner. That VT would then be offered two unchosen PR's (similar to slot 12).

[faust]

We should note that not even the WW theory that ash put forward makes any sense because that's not how WW conversion works at all. If I had been converted WW by Galzria, I would have had to be a VT beforehand. But that is impossible as I am first in draft order.

[faust]

PPE Galzria.

[faust]

We need claims as follows:

ashersky
Galzria
Jake

[O]

Faust: WHY DID YOU SHOOT PPS JESUS CHRIST

Because we really could not have afforded to keep him around until LyLo.

If you shot mr. "My bullshit information still gets out even if I die somehow" ashersky we'd be a decent amount further from LYLO in the first place.

[faust]

Faust: WHY DID YOU SHOOT PPS JESUS CHRIST

Because we really could not have afforded to keep him around until LyLo.

If you shot mr. "My bullshit information still gets out even if I die somehow" ashersky we'd be a decent amount further from LYLO in the first place.

True, but I was looking forward to see what he'd come up with. And I really really did not want to get in a fight with PPS, which would have been necessary then.

[iguanaiguana]

Vote: Space for being on team Ashersky then.

[Robz888]

Vote Count 4.2

ashersky (3): faust, LaLight, O
LaLight (1): JaketheBaseballGod22
faust (1): ashersky
SpaceAnemone (1): iguanaiguana

Not Voting (7): Awaclus, Dylan32, RoadRunner7671, Galzria, sudgy, SpaceAnemone, Jimmmmm

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

[ashersky]

If you can't see the extremely simple explanation for the night kills, I'm disappointed.

In what world does a town Vig kill a fairly good town role over the many, many scum reads he has!  I mean, reread the guy in reference to me.  "I wanted to see his claim" is complete crap.  What he means is "ashersky is the easiest mislynch on f.ds so of course let's leave him alive."

[ashersky]

We need claims as follows:

ashersky
Galzria
Jake

Says scum, who really needs this info to shape future posts.

[ashersky]

Faust has stated that he has killed two towny players who no actual town Vig would ever want to kill.

Huge town mistakes, as O says?  From arguably the best mafia player on the board?  Highly doubtful.  If he's actually Town (he's not), this is easily his worst performance, ever.  But it's not.

There's no doubt he had a strong hand in killing those towny players.  He ordered them.

[ashersky]

I hope Jimmmm can play today -- it was his play catching me so long ago that inspired me holding on to my guilty result on Faust to draw out potential partners.

[ashersky]

As for Role Cop vs. Watcher, I'm certain I made the right choice.  A directed investigation is better than a passive hope.

[sudgy]

Vote: ashersky

[ashersky]

Also, what benefit do I get from lying here?

I'm the much townier player, I have the actual result.  If I'm lying I get a 1-for-1 trade with a VT?

The fact that faust has not even considered that fact means he's not really the Vig.

Out for the night.  Back tomorrow.

[O]

the arguments are entirely irrelevant unless you can explain how there's three deaths

[faust]

I am confused, ash - am I or am I not the vig?

And what on earth were you thinking with the Werewolf thing?

These are the questions you don't have answers to.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I am confused, ash - am I or am I not the vig?

And what on earth were you thinking with the Werewolf thing?

These are the questions you don't have answers to.

Please claim your action ashersky and galzria.
Until you do Vote: Ashersky you are both my top scum reads

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

We need claims as follows:

ashersky
Galzria
Jake

Says scum, who really needs this info to shape future posts.

Says me who has extremely prevalent info that could be made even better or broken by your claims!!!!

[SpaceAnemone]

If TWM died from hiding then it points to me or iguana as scum, since mcmc is now conf!town. I can tell you for sure that that would mean that iguana is scum, assuming TWM didn't deviate from his plan. However, it's also possible that he didn't hide, or that he was hiding behind mcmc when mcmc died.

That's very townie to remember and recall. I, um, forgot this

Dunno. It's very likely that TWM died from hiding. He certainly wouldn't hide behind mcmc. Space should be voting for iguana and the reason that they aren't is they need a way out after iguana flips town.

I wasn't voting for anyone yet because I only checked in here briefly during work earlier. I'm reading and catching up now, and I'll definitely vote before sleep.

[SpaceAnemone]

Anyway, top suspects:

- ash for refusing to claim
- Space/iguana because TWM hid behind one of them
- Galzria because mcmc died

The Galzria thing is sort of weak because the chance of scum having either Roleblocker or Strongman are relatively high.

I think strongman is pretty much confirmed, isn't it? If Galz got JK from slot 11, and we know it's impossible to have WWs because e flipped SK, then the PR actually won from slot 8 must be strongman. The only way that doesn't work out is if Galz is lying about his PR/slot.

[SpaceAnemone]

I've just found that post from earlier in the game where someone outlined the number of ways we might expect deaths to occur:

we should expect either 3 or 4 deaths. Not 2 or 3. Why does it seem I'm the only one who acknowledges this.

SK, Vig, Mafia - where is the other "expected" death coming from? There's ways to run up the count, sure (HH, Inventor Poison, Hider, front side of Masonic getting killed, etc), but I'm not sure where you're getting the other expected death.

The HH can't have happened last night, and nor can the mason death or the SK death.

We already know that PPS was the vig death from our claimed vig. I think that's quite scummy of faust, because we're clearly not going to reach a lylo situation with PPS's sheep-vote in place now that the person he's sheeping is dead. And it's not like mcmc's death last night was unexpected once he missed the hammer :-(

That means TWM/mcmc died from the mafia faction kill plus either poison, or hiding either behind scum or possibly behind mcmc when he died. I do think TWM will have followed through on his stated algorithm, though the fact he and mcmc both died in the same night makes me wonder.

Incidentally, would the HH protection mcmc had on N2 have protected him from being poisoned that night, and dying last night? I think poison seems unlikely overall, though.