Catching up now! I'm going to write a bunch of comments as I go, because I think that's the only way I'm going to find time to interact with this game today!
I like the mcmc plan of being hammer hero. I think if TWM hides and doesn't die, then we're pretty safe. What if scum has the doctor role, though? Could they doctor TWM in order to give a false hider result?
Why is LL hesitant about questioning mcmc at #1885?
I get where faust is coming from at #1929 not wanting the game to be broken, but having some aliances forming out there among the sea of names is making it a little easier for me to get my head around.
At #1986, TWM is talking about not making it back in time for a night action. I'm pretty sure some mods will allow you to post conditional night actions, like "I want to do X if Y is lynched, or Z if that doesn't happen". RR seems to suggest the non-conditional version of this, but TWM rejects it at #1993. I think trying the conditional version on Robz in QT is still worth a try, though then it's also worth not telling the thread all about it in case someone manages to make your conditional technically true while at the same time not being what you wanted it to mean.
#1996 Oh dear.. I think I'm still the leading wagon based primarily on my having been a bit absent/disengaged, and now we're talking about an early lynch. I'm frustrated because I'm trying hard with the time I have available, but a game this size is really hard for me to get into, especially with so many unknown players. At least gkrieg read me correctly for once! Sad about him being dead now :-(
#2002 Urgh.. LL knows me better than this, surely?
#2025 Why don't people think that Cal would just play absolutely to his quiet struggling-to-do-D1 meta?
TWM's ideal group to look at is "Jimmmm, 2.7, sudgy, LaLight, Dylan" -- maybe that's a good set of people for me to re-read next time I get the time.
#2062 I have a bit of sympathy with sudgy's position, because I feel like he's being scumread for the same sort of thing I'd do!
Good townie point from LL about the sheeper and the Hammer Hero. But surely if mcmc casts the hammering vote, and PPS's ghost casts the one after it, mcmc gets the hammer, right? I'm sure I'm about to find out in another comment. Edit: I don't think anyone followed up on this. Isn't it stil safe to sheep mcmc if necessary, just not all that useful because the sheep vote comes in at L+1 rather than counting as a necessary vote for the hammer? It would still be worthwhile in the endgame if it gets down to the point where TWM and mcmc start getting outnumbered.
Ooh, ash wants a mathsy person :-) Here I am! I really should finish catching up first in case, but I should come back and do numbers. Though this is more just normal boring counting that actual fun probabilities, isn't it?
#2106 Cuzz seems suspicious of mcmc having devised the hider plan. I think if we rememebr that mcmc and Robz are close, and that there's been quite a lot of build-up to this game, then it's not very surprising that mcmc spent a while stretegising. He may even have been one of the people who talked the set-up over with Robz in advance, no?
Ah, I agree with the "play to win with the tools we have" response to TWM's suggestion about playing for more fun and less broken-setup-ness.
#2149 PPS is assuming a "5 man mafia team"... guess that's me cleared then :-)
#2182 -- I'm not quite sure where O is going with this.
I need to do one of those lynch order lists, but for that I need to do some reading first. I've been reading for 90 minutes here and I haven't even caught up to the present yet :-(
Okay.. here's the present, but I'm 38 minutes past bedtime already.