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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #925 on: May 17, 2017, 01:00:26 pm »

My vote on TWM: no one has mentioned the reason that I planted my vote.  I quoted the post; I seriously believe only scum was even looking out for the possible IC announcement, and would be more likely by far to comment on the lack thereof.  What town player came into D1 wondering about an IC?  What's the Town motivation/narrative for that line of thought?

So that's my reasoning from what seems like ages ago.
I asked you for an explanation. So thanks for providing it now. I appreciate that, but please don't criticize us because it took you a long time to provide something asked for.

My concern is that we have the potential for a 2-shot vig that is owned by mafia. If I were mafia that is the slot I would have promoted going for my team had a stop slot. It would. 1. prevent an IC from town and 2. give mafia two extra night kills. It should have been a top priority of town to prevent mafia from getting it.

I think that is something that anyone paying attention to the setup should have been looking for and anticipating, hoping that we had an IC so that we wouldn't have to worry about. But we don't have an IC. So now I am worried. I don't know if there is anything we can do, but I want to explore if there is anything rather than just hope for the best.

Now you can tell me if that is something you would do as town, but it is certainly something I would do and just did as town.

Why do you think that it would have prevented town from having an IC? I mean, I get what you're saying, but I'm pretty certain that every town player, given the chance, would've taken 2-Shot Vig over IC. Therefore if scum got a top pick and won slot 1, it would be preventing a town 2-shot Vig, not an IC.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #926 on: May 17, 2017, 01:01:39 pm »

@gkrieg, I believe I found pps towny not because of defending people just in general and found you scummy. Then you calling pps out for defending people weirdly was actually something that seemed townie from you so then I was town on both of you very slightly. Then your defense of twm I found scummy. So it would mean I loosely find you scummy and loosely find pps towny. At this point there are way better lynches then either of you.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #927 on: May 17, 2017, 01:02:19 pm »

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #928 on: May 17, 2017, 01:02:35 pm »

Kidding btw, RR would be on the list of low posters. Also Jake. I keep forgetting he is even in this game, which is most unusual.

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Hi I just caught up with the thread. I will vote almost anyone. Mcmc is my top scum read but I'm fine with lynching others.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #929 on: May 17, 2017, 01:05:04 pm »

Kidding btw, RR would be on the list of low posters. Also Jake. I keep forgetting he is even in this game, which is most unusual.

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Hi I just caught up with the thread. I will vote almost anyone. Mcmc is my top scum read but I'm fine with lynching others.

So townie
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #930 on: May 17, 2017, 01:06:32 pm »

@LaLight

Are you honestly saying Awaclus is voting for me because he finds me scummy? Let's call a spade a spade here, it's what he would want anyways.

He sincerely 100% believes you're scum at this point unless he is scum himself (maybe even in this case). It's Awaclus' style.

PPE: 1

I accept that you've played with him more but I still strongly disagree with your read of him as a person, using my own similar past actions as a reference.

I mean if you want you can look at him in M99 where he was scum and acted completely different.
Not really. Oh wait yeah sorta I do. I wanted to kill him in M99 and now I want to lynch him.
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Town Wins (4-11) 26.7% M88L, M89L, NM9L, M91L, M95L, M97L,NM10W, RMM41L, M100L, M103L, M105W, M107W, RMM45W, M109L, RMM46L

Scum Wins (2-3) 40% M87L, M94W, ZM23L, M99L, ZM24W

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #931 on: May 17, 2017, 01:08:21 pm »

Galz how do you feel about eevee. Same question to eevee but vise versa.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #932 on: May 17, 2017, 01:10:44 pm »

Galz how do you feel about eevee. Same question to eevee but vise versa.

Give me a few. I'll switch my reread to him. I'm doing Gkrieg at the moment and getting serious gkrieg/Reggie confirmation bias... A complete change will be good for me.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #933 on: May 17, 2017, 01:13:15 pm »


I think you're thinking of someone else, unless you're interpreting something he said in a completely different way than I am - I see nothing relating to wagoning based on dumb arbitrary criteria from him.

To make reads easier, from this point until an undisclosed later time, I will automatically be scumreading anyone who votes gkrieg and townreading anyone who votes pps.

That's what I was referring to. I think we disagree semantically on whether that's promising wagoning on dumb arbitrary criteria, I guess.

No, I suppose you're correct on that. Just not the terms I thought of when he posted it. Further, at the TIME of his posting, it was his 8th post, and cemented the strange relationship he had going with gkrieg at the time (found in his 2nd, 4th, and 6th post) - which, while maybe all completely unrelated, caught my eye back then too (as my first directed question was to J Reggie regarding exactly that topic). All this is to say, at the time he posted this, it was unclear that it was in fact superficial. And when he stated later that he had "previously said that I will be making reads based on superficial reasons", A) He didn't point to that post, or any other as evidence of him making reads based on superficial reasons, and B) Even if he had, that post itself is NOT him "previously saying that he will be making reads based on superficial reasons", if anything it's simply him "making reads based on superficial reasons".

Anyway, perhaps it's all semantics. But stating "I have previously said I would be doing something", is VERY different to me than "I previously did something".

That said, for now, I'll let it sit while I reread some other people.

I mean, it's not like I suddenly started voting for or attacking anyone who voted for gkrieg. I specifically said, "this is what I'll be basing my reads off of for now" and it was a pretty superficial thing. I didn't use the word superficial but I shouldn't have had to. Then later I wanted to make it clear that no, I wasn't just voting for TWM because he was against gkrieg or whatever, this was an actual scum read independent of that. Hope that helps to clear things up.

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #934 on: May 17, 2017, 01:18:48 pm »


I think you're thinking of someone else, unless you're interpreting something he said in a completely different way than I am - I see nothing relating to wagoning based on dumb arbitrary criteria from him.

To make reads easier, from this point until an undisclosed later time, I will automatically be scumreading anyone who votes gkrieg and townreading anyone who votes pps.

That's what I was referring to. I think we disagree semantically on whether that's promising wagoning on dumb arbitrary criteria, I guess.

No, I suppose you're correct on that. Just not the terms I thought of when he posted it. Further, at the TIME of his posting, it was his 8th post, and cemented the strange relationship he had going with gkrieg at the time (found in his 2nd, 4th, and 6th post) - which, while maybe all completely unrelated, caught my eye back then too (as my first directed question was to J Reggie regarding exactly that topic). All this is to say, at the time he posted this, it was unclear that it was in fact superficial. And when he stated later that he had "previously said that I will be making reads based on superficial reasons", A) He didn't point to that post, or any other as evidence of him making reads based on superficial reasons, and B) Even if he had, that post itself is NOT him "previously saying that he will be making reads based on superficial reasons", if anything it's simply him "making reads based on superficial reasons".

Anyway, perhaps it's all semantics. But stating "I have previously said I would be doing something", is VERY different to me than "I previously did something".

That said, for now, I'll let it sit while I reread some other people.

I mean, it's not like I suddenly started voting for or attacking anyone who voted for gkrieg. I specifically said, "this is what I'll be basing my reads off of for now" and it was a pretty superficial thing. I didn't use the word superficial but I shouldn't have had to. Then later I wanted to make it clear that no, I wasn't just voting for TWM because he was against gkrieg or whatever, this was an actual scum read independent of that. Hope that helps to clear things up.

Would you mind making clear which of the following two quotes "made it clear that no, I wasn't just voting for TWM because he was against gkrieg or whatever, this was an actual scum read independent of that."

vote: The_Wine_Merchant

Serious vote.

Is anybody else no longer able to automatically bold on mobile?
Not OMGUSing. But when people have to specify if it is a serious vote, that is suspicious. Why would anyone think this wasn't a serious vote?

RVS. Or if they're scum.

Three votes on me. Don't know why.

Because you're scum.

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #935 on: May 17, 2017, 01:38:43 pm »

Right. Eevee.

Post #1 - Some fluff, buttering up O and me. The whole PSA talk and vote on Cuzz is a little weird - but mostly RVS, so nothing really noteworthy.

Post #2 - butters up LL.

Post #4 is VERY town Eevee - but I've also seen Scum Eevee play off that meta. So while it's a LITTLE towncred, it's not much:
It's easier if you just always scumread Eevee.  That way he can't come back and get ya.
I never get anyone. Just a friendly, towny, all-around stand-up dude, no reason to worry about me.

I'm not in favor of any organized mass-claim, and I doubt it would work because people would simply refuse (or a lot of town lying). If people have roles they feel they should claim, can't they just do it at their own discretion?

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Forgot to mention I'm town, that too.

The following, to my mind, is the first real post by Eevee that means anything:
I'm traveling for the day, back in the evening though.

I'm finding it hard to differentiate between town reads and people who I agree with.

I think accusing others of looking like scum caught for the wrong reasons might be starting to be a
scumtell, I feel it's been one of the easier arguments to push for myself in my recent scum games.

I agree very much with town reads and people I agree with getting crossed. That's something I'll need to be wary of. As someone pointed out, it's much easier for scum to appear pro-town than town - so finding myself agreeing with someone does NOT make them more or less likely to be town. As far as the last paragraph goes... I can't really say, having been out of the loop for 65 games. Is that a thing? Catching scum for the wrong reasons? Or is it a "made up" thing used by scum to get town lynched?

In the following post:
Eevee, 2.7, Gkrieg, Jim. What do you guys think about my recent thoughts on ozzle? Do you think he is pushing people to speculate so scum knows what townies may or may not have high draft slots. Or do you think he is just trying to find scum the best way he knows how?
I find the nickname confusing!

I'm not getting the scum vibes you are describing, I think he isn just trying to get the game moving and hunt for scum. O always had an unconventional style. I would give him a day 1 pass for activity alone.

I'll actually answer your question: I think the latter. It's weird, having played with O so long ago - but this O is VERY different to back then. He's much more measured and thought out, and WAY less reactionary. There's traces of old O in there... but I've found myself on the agreeing side with him much of the time this game - a rarity for our relationship. Now, to note based on my above thought - agreement does not indicate town/scum. But it is an interesting note based on our history. Not sure if it's just the time that's passed that's changed things, or if he's genuinely a different player. But I do like the way he's played so far.

A common theme from Eevee has definitely been his push on Lurkers. I don't know how that stands out against his recent meta, but he mentioned it in his PSA in his first post, brought it up in a different light later ("I feel this game will be easy to fall behind on"), and again recently "hence i would steer clear of lynching the most visible players. we can get the active people lately as well (and i'm saying this full well knowing i'm not one of the most active players)." --- If he's scum, he and his team are probably a little more active than not.

That said, I don't like sheep. Reasons people. Put your stances in writing please.

Vote: J Reggie

And... that's about all.

Overall there's a bit of fluff, a bit of talk (mostly about not lurking), and a few votes - some seem RVS, some not as much. Nothing too serious from him. He hasn't really made much of a case on anyone. Andrew is the closest thing - and while a good point, I'm not in much of a position to give it much merit or not. Overall I find Eevee pretty null.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #936 on: May 17, 2017, 01:44:10 pm »

Galz how do you feel about eevee. Same question to eevee but vise versa.

Give me a few. I'll switch my reread to him. I'm doing Gkrieg at the moment and getting serious gkrieg/Reggie confirmation bias... A complete change will be good for me.

Nothing from rereading me?
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #937 on: May 17, 2017, 01:47:46 pm »

Galz: it was the "serious vote" part.

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« Reply #938 on: May 17, 2017, 01:48:30 pm »

Galz how do you feel about eevee. Same question to eevee but vise versa.

Give me a few. I'll switch my reread to him. I'm doing Gkrieg at the moment and getting serious gkrieg/Reggie confirmation bias... A complete change will be good for me.

Nothing from rereading me?

I stopped and switched to Eevee. I keep getting confirmation bias on connections between you and J Reggie. Maybe I'm not crazy and it's a thing. But I know I'm seeing it because I want to see it, and I think rereading other people and coming back to you with a fresh view will be better for me. If I'm still seeing it then, maybe it's worth bringing up in detail. But I don't want to bog down the thread with my confirmation bias if that's all it is.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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« Reply #939 on: May 17, 2017, 01:53:08 pm »

Galz: it was the "serious vote" part.

That would be reasonable had you explained your vote. Or your reasons. Or anything really. Maybe it's just a different style of play - but doing things and then going back and putting reasons to them later is scummy to me. It gives you time to see how everyone else reacts, and then make your explanation adjustments accordingly. It's a lot harder to defend a stated position than it is to make one up later imo
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #940 on: May 17, 2017, 02:00:53 pm »

My vote on TWM: no one has mentioned the reason that I planted my vote.  I quoted the post; I seriously believe only scum was even looking out for the possible IC announcement, and would be more likely by far to comment on the lack thereof.  What town player came into D1 wondering about an IC?  What's the Town motivation/narrative for that line of thought?

So that's my reasoning from what seems like ages ago.
I asked you for an explanation. So thanks for providing it now. I appreciate that, but please don't criticize us because it took you a long time to provide something asked for.

My concern is that we have the potential for a 2-shot vig that is owned by mafia. If I were mafia that is the slot I would have promoted going for my team had a stop slot. It would. 1. prevent an IC from town and 2. give mafia two extra night kills. It should have been a top priority of town to prevent mafia from getting it.

I think that is something that anyone paying attention to the setup should have been looking for and anticipating, hoping that we had an IC so that we wouldn't have to worry about. But we don't have an IC. So now I am worried. I don't know if there is anything we can do, but I want to explore if there is anything rather than just hope for the best.

Now you can tell me if that is something you would do as town, but it is certainly something I would do and just did as town.

Why do you think that it would have prevented town from having an IC? I mean, I get what you're saying, but I'm pretty certain that every town player, given the chance, would've taken 2-Shot Vig over IC. Therefore if scum got a top pick and won slot 1, it would be preventing a town 2-shot Vig, not an IC.
I guess I have a limited expectation on the utility of a 2-shot Vig. I would rather have an IC.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #941 on: May 17, 2017, 02:21:31 pm »

Hi I just caught up with the thread. I will vote almost anyone. Mcmc is my top scum read but I'm fine with lynching others.

Wow. This, right here, is why Jake is a favorite D1 mislynch. I have to say, especially in a game this size, this is often my attitude about D1 as well but I at least put in some damned effort. As unbelievable as it may seem, this reads like typical town!jake to me. I really want to policy punch the daylights out of it but my energy is better directed elsewhere.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #942 on: May 17, 2017, 02:36:28 pm »

Calam, RoadRunner, Jimmm - let's get some thoughts and opinions down plz. You three have not yet voted, nor really contributed much.

Jimmm: 1 post: "Hello"
RR: 14 posts. Some early stuff about not reading the thread, some stuff about being proud about propheting O's "I'm the 2-shot Vig", but no real reads or opinions on players ("Awaclus is town" aside)
Calam: 8 posts - decent questioning going on, but hasn't really posted his own thoughts.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #943 on: May 17, 2017, 02:41:46 pm »

Hi I just caught up with the thread. I will vote almost anyone. Mcmc is my top scum read but I'm fine with lynching others.

Wow. This, right here, is why Jake is a favorite D1 mislynch. I have to say, especially in a game this size, this is often my attitude about D1 as well but I at least put in some damned effort. As unbelievable as it may seem, this reads like typical town!jake to me. I really want to policy punch the daylights out of it but my energy is better directed elsewhere.

This is just Jake -- no alignment tells here.  Not a good or helpful post, par for the first course.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #944 on: May 17, 2017, 03:00:37 pm »

Hi I just caught up with the thread. I will vote almost anyone. Mcmc is my top scum read but I'm fine with lynching others.

Wow. This, right here, is why Jake is a favorite D1 mislynch. I have to say, especially in a game this size, this is often my attitude about D1 as well but I at least put in some damned effort. As unbelievable as it may seem, this reads like typical town!jake to me. I really want to policy punch the daylights out of it but my energy is better directed elsewhere.
I'm going to actually post what I thought was scummy about mcmc when I got home just btw.
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Scum Wins (2-3) 40% M87L, M94W, ZM23L, M99L, ZM24W

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #945 on: May 17, 2017, 03:02:31 pm »

Having reread most of TWM now, I'm finding him fairly consistent. And I don't think his early speculation about IC/2-Shot Vig is all that off based on his beliefs. To be more clear, based on the following quote (and correct me if I'm wrong), you are suggesting that as town with draft #1 you would've taken IC over 2-shot Vig - not necessarily because IC is the better role, but because it would let town know that scum did not have the 2-shot Vig, as well as making an IC:

Why do you think that it would have prevented town from having an IC? I mean, I get what you're saying, but I'm pretty certain that every town player, given the chance, would've taken 2-Shot Vig over IC. Therefore if scum got a top pick and won slot 1, it would be preventing a town 2-shot Vig, not an IC.
I guess I have a limited expectation on the utility of a 2-shot Vig. I would rather have an IC.

This belief makes his early posts about feeling like it's more likely for scum to have a 2-shot Vig over town based on the lack of IC make more sense. I think it's WRONG, because I think town takes 2-shot Vig over IC every time, so the chances of that role going to scum or town are basically equal. But at least it explains the position and makes his previous posts read much more consistent.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #946 on: May 17, 2017, 03:08:31 pm »

Having reread most of TWM now, I'm finding him fairly consistent. And I don't think his early speculation about IC/2-Shot Vig is all that off based on his beliefs. To be more clear, based on the following quote (and correct me if I'm wrong), you are suggesting that as town with draft #1 you would've taken IC over 2-shot Vig - not necessarily because IC is the better role, but because it would let town know that scum did not have the 2-shot Vig, as well as making an IC:

Why do you think that it would have prevented town from having an IC? I mean, I get what you're saying, but I'm pretty certain that every town player, given the chance, would've taken 2-Shot Vig over IC. Therefore if scum got a top pick and won slot 1, it would be preventing a town 2-shot Vig, not an IC.
I guess I have a limited expectation on the utility of a 2-shot Vig. I would rather have an IC.

This belief makes his early posts about feeling like it's more likely for scum to have a 2-shot Vig over town based on the lack of IC make more sense. I think it's WRONG, because I think town takes 2-shot Vig over IC every time, so the chances of that role going to scum or town are basically equal. But at least it explains the position and makes his previous posts read much more consistent.
You are interpreting correctly. And to be clear, I wasn't trying to assert that my belief was absolutely correct. But wanted to have a discussion about it before making that declaration.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #947 on: May 17, 2017, 03:09:57 pm »

Calam, RoadRunner, Jimmm - let's get some thoughts and opinions down plz. You three have not yet voted, nor really contributed much.

Jimmm: 1 post: "Hello"
RR: 14 posts. Some early stuff about not reading the thread, some stuff about being proud about propheting O's "I'm the 2-shot Vig", but no real reads or opinions on players ("Awaclus is town" aside)
Calam: 8 posts - decent questioning going on, but hasn't really posted his own thoughts.
I really don't have thoughts. It's very unusual for me to have any reads so early at all because most stuff is just not alignment-indicative. And the bunch of unindicative fluff in here clearly does not help :(
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #948 on: May 17, 2017, 03:11:13 pm »

TWM - Why did you call out Reggie for posting "Serious Vote", when much earlier gkrieg did the exact same thing?

vote: WW, because he is scum, and also hey everyone.

Serious vote: PPS.  Doing a weird amount of defending, that one is.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #949 on: May 17, 2017, 03:16:20 pm »

TWM - Why did you call out Reggie for posting "Serious Vote", when much earlier gkrieg did the exact same thing?

vote: WW, because he is scum, and also hey everyone.

Serious vote: PPS.  Doing a weird amount of defending, that one is.
I saw the vote on me because it was on me. I have no memory of seeing the vote on gkrieg and probably didn't pay very much attention to it. I tend to be someone self-centric. People have criticized me for it, but it tends to work out pretty well for me.
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