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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #900 on: May 17, 2017, 12:34:40 pm »

I like what Galzria is doing with J Reggie.

I don't but maybe I just don't get it.

Didn't Reggie say publicly early d1 that he had those kinda dumb arbitrary criteria for wagoning? Before he did those exact things? Or is galzria somehow showing otherwise.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #901 on: May 17, 2017, 12:36:34 pm »

I like what Galzria is doing with J Reggie.

I don't but maybe I just don't get it.

Didn't Reggie say publicly early d1 that he had those kinda dumb arbitrary criteria for wagoning? Before he did those exact things? Or is galzria somehow showing otherwise.

Galz is saying that the difference in wording between JR's announcement of his arbitrary criteria and his statement of what he had previously said ending is significant.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #902 on: May 17, 2017, 12:36:40 pm »

Vote: J Reggie
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #903 on: May 17, 2017, 12:38:04 pm »

I like what Galzria is doing with J Reggie.

I don't but maybe I just don't get it.

Didn't Reggie say publicly early d1 that he had those kinda dumb arbitrary criteria for wagoning? Before he did those exact things? Or is galzria somehow showing otherwise.

Galz is saying that the difference in wording between JR's announcement of his arbitrary criteria and his statement of what he had previously said ending is significant.

That instead of using the words "superficial" he described a very superficial process?

That's an actual question, I'm not sure what else the "difference in words" is.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #904 on: May 17, 2017, 12:39:08 pm »

I like what Galzria is doing with J Reggie.

I don't but maybe I just don't get it.

Didn't Reggie say publicly early d1 that he had those kinda dumb arbitrary criteria for wagoning? Before he did those exact things? Or is galzria somehow showing otherwise.

I think you're thinking of someone else, unless you're interpreting something he said in a completely different way than I am - I see nothing relating to wagoning based on dumb arbitrary criteria from him.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #905 on: May 17, 2017, 12:41:18 pm »

Scums are, in no particular order:

sudgy
J Reggie
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #906 on: May 17, 2017, 12:42:02 pm »

I like what galz is doing, but I don't think J Reggie is scum for it.
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Why Andrew?  And why mcmc?  And why ash?

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #907 on: May 17, 2017, 12:42:12 pm »

vote count please
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #908 on: May 17, 2017, 12:42:20 pm »

Scums are, in no particular order:

sudgy
J Reggie
pps
Dylan
Eevee

Why sudgy, why PPS?
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #909 on: May 17, 2017, 12:42:29 pm »


I think you're thinking of someone else, unless you're interpreting something he said in a completely different way than I am - I see nothing relating to wagoning based on dumb arbitrary criteria from him.

To make reads easier, from this point until an undisclosed later time, I will automatically be scumreading anyone who votes gkrieg and townreading anyone who votes pps.

That's what I was referring to. I think we disagree semantically on whether that's promising wagoning on dumb arbitrary criteria, I guess.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #910 on: May 17, 2017, 12:43:34 pm »

I like what galz is doing, but I don't think J Reggie is scum for it.
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Why Andrew?  And why mcmc?  And why ash?

I get O.
I don't keep notes on these reads, I just put them in my QT as soon as I feel them.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #911 on: May 17, 2017, 12:44:28 pm »

Scums are, in no particular order:

sudgy
J Reggie
pps
Dylan
Eevee

Why sudgy, why PPS?
sudgy has exactly 1 post. I'm sure you can figure out why I'm voting for him.
pps is too normal.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #912 on: May 17, 2017, 12:44:58 pm »

Scums are, in no particular order:

sudgy
J Reggie
pps
Dylan
Eevee

I think you mean "People who have been online the least besides me are..."
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #913 on: May 17, 2017, 12:45:29 pm »

pps is too normal.

pretty meaningless isnt it
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #914 on: May 17, 2017, 12:46:14 pm »

Caught up.  PSA: I won't be posting much during specific hours due to busy-ness.  Should have more time in a week or so.

A lot happened in the past ~20 pages.  Takeaways:

--O is a cool cat.  Had opportunities to react with strong emotions, but apparently didn't.
--Awaclus is no more likely to be scum following his extreme Awaclusing than before.
--Calling out "lurkers" in a 24-hour window is nonsense.  Game rules give folks time to have a life, catch up, etc.
--Galzria had some towny posts.
--gkrieg13 had some townier posts than before.
--Faust added some Town dust.

My vote on TWM: no one has mentioned the reason that I planted my vote.  I quoted the post; I seriously believe only scum was even looking out for the possible IC announcement, and would be more likely by far to comment on the lack thereof.  What town player came into D1 wondering about an IC?  What's the Town motivation/narrative for that line of thought?

So that's my reasoning from what seems like ages ago.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #915 on: May 17, 2017, 12:46:33 pm »

Gkrieg repeating his Faust impression isn't helping himself.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #916 on: May 17, 2017, 12:46:54 pm »

gkrieg is making sense, and being helpful.

I don't like lynching TWM.

How am I being helpful?

Don't worry, you aren't, at all.

Yea I'm back on being cool with a gkrieg lynch.

I need to write down my thoughts townreads so I don't forget. I would actually suggest that to everyone. Later in this game it's going to be impossible to remember what happened early and scum can use that to trick people into lynch players they previously had strong town reads on, it happens even in small games.

And why is that?

I found you scummy early on, I believe pps whom I find towny said you were defending a lot of people. Then you did something I can't remember exactly what which made me think you were acting more like town, but this recent defense of twm has flipped me back around. It's loose.

So this from mcmcsalot, with this as a response:

Like that means that your case against me is that PPS said I was defending people, but you say you think PPS is townie.

But I was the one that said PPS was defending people weird and that he was scummy.  So PPS is townie for doing so, but I'm scummy for doing so?  PARADOX

Remember how I said I have to write things down...

So, does that mean you think I'm townie and that PPS is scummy?
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #917 on: May 17, 2017, 12:47:00 pm »

pps is too normal.

pretty meaningless isnt it
Ultimately we have to let go of the illusion that the things we say ever really mean anything.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #918 on: May 17, 2017, 12:47:33 pm »

But you would know about that.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #919 on: May 17, 2017, 12:48:07 pm »

Kidding btw, RR would be on the list of low posters. Also Jake. I keep forgetting he is even in this game, which is most unusual.

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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #920 on: May 17, 2017, 12:48:41 pm »

I don't think Awaclus has done anything so far that would be alignment-indicative.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #921 on: May 17, 2017, 12:49:24 pm »

But you would know about that.

true enough
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #922 on: May 17, 2017, 12:50:09 pm »


I think you're thinking of someone else, unless you're interpreting something he said in a completely different way than I am - I see nothing relating to wagoning based on dumb arbitrary criteria from him.

To make reads easier, from this point until an undisclosed later time, I will automatically be scumreading anyone who votes gkrieg and townreading anyone who votes pps.

That's what I was referring to. I think we disagree semantically on whether that's promising wagoning on dumb arbitrary criteria, I guess.

No, I suppose you're correct on that. Just not the terms I thought of when he posted it. Further, at the TIME of his posting, it was his 8th post, and cemented the strange relationship he had going with gkrieg at the time (found in his 2nd, 4th, and 6th post) - which, while maybe all completely unrelated, caught my eye back then too (as my first directed question was to J Reggie regarding exactly that topic). All this is to say, at the time he posted this, it was unclear that it was in fact superficial. And when he stated later that he had "previously said that I will be making reads based on superficial reasons", A) He didn't point to that post, or any other as evidence of him making reads based on superficial reasons, and B) Even if he had, that post itself is NOT him "previously saying that he will be making reads based on superficial reasons", if anything it's simply him "making reads based on superficial reasons".

Anyway, perhaps it's all semantics. But stating "I have previously said I would be doing something", is VERY different to me than "I previously did something".

That said, for now, I'll let it sit while I reread some other people.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #923 on: May 17, 2017, 12:51:39 pm »

Gkrieg repeating his Faust impression isn't helping himself.

It's mainly because I trust faust, and so getting reasons for his reads helps me formulate my own.
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Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1
« Reply #924 on: May 17, 2017, 12:56:45 pm »

My vote on TWM: no one has mentioned the reason that I planted my vote.  I quoted the post; I seriously believe only scum was even looking out for the possible IC announcement, and would be more likely by far to comment on the lack thereof.  What town player came into D1 wondering about an IC?  What's the Town motivation/narrative for that line of thought?

So that's my reasoning from what seems like ages ago.
I asked you for an explanation. So thanks for providing it now. I appreciate that, but please don't criticize us because it took you a long time to provide something asked for.

My concern is that we have the potential for a 2-shot vig that is owned by mafia. If I were mafia that is the slot I would have promoted going for my team had a stop slot. It would. 1. prevent an IC from town and 2. give mafia two extra night kills. It should have been a top priority of town to prevent mafia from getting it.

I think that is something that anyone paying attention to the setup should have been looking for and anticipating, hoping that we had an IC so that we wouldn't have to worry about. But we don't have an IC. So now I am worried. I don't know if there is anything we can do, but I want to explore if there is anything rather than just hope for the best.

Now you can tell me if that is something you would do as town, but it is certainly something I would do and just did as town.
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