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JaketheBaseballGod22 (2): Roadrunner7671, Awaclus
SpaceAnemone (2): faust, LaLight
schadd (2): JaketheBaseballGod22, Robz888
Awaclus (2): SpaceAnemone, mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1): Dylan32
Dylan32 (1): schadd
IDontPlayThisGame (1): gkrieg13
LaLight (1): IDontPlayThisGame

Not Voting (1): Calamitas

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Day 1 ends Monday February 13 at 10 PM U.S. Eastern Time.

[LaLight]

/raise your hand if you prefer playing town


/raise

Well, I don't. I am always town. I would prefer playing scum one magical day.

[schadd]

Calling a Jake/IDPTG scum team. It all makes sense to me. The bussing patterns are really great for two newer players.

-IDPTG calls out his scum buddy and me with a comment that won't get any traction

don't think he could have reasonably known that, especially if you agree with what he said aaaahhhhh

-But IDPTG's comment has some merit. Why haven't Jake and I been arguing? It's true that I haven't dedicated really any time to this game, but you'd think Jake would say something to get my knickers in a twist. Yet he hasn't. Why?

d1 M91 he barely addressed you at all

-It's because Jake has adjusted his play style when he's scum. Back in his debut game, he got lynched real quick for his style. He didn't change it after that because every time after that he was town. But now he's not town, so he's changed his play style because the other way got him lynched. This seems like classic!relatively!new!scum! to me.

i uh think this happened in M91. he had 3 scum on his d2 wagon dontcha know.

-Finally, he replies quite aggressively and forcefully to IDPTG. Now, I don't pretend to be in Jake's mind, but I think I can #relate to him more than anyone else currently in this game. And several times as scum, I've thought about bussing my partner crazy hard. I think this is what Jake's doing. In Portal Mafia not bussing didn't work, so now he's at the other extreme. This makes perfect sense to me.

i guess this makes sense, though, to me, it doesn't amount to more than "this means that a jake/idptg team is not ruled out," esp. considering i'm not really leaning scum on either of them

I would encourage people who are struggling to get into this game or don't really know what to do to vote for Jake or IDPTG. Early wagons are good, early wagons with evidence are better. So vote up!

eeeewwww

[LaLight]

sorry, faust, I can't vote SA any more. They look townieish to me.
I will return to vote: Dylan32

[schadd]

I just want schadd to answer my question.

sorry, only saw this now

I don't know if your dayvig is going to go through or not schadd, but if so, why kill gkrieg immediately? His town games have been really strong recently. What makes you confident enough to know he is scum before anyone really says anything at all?

this question seemed silly to me, especially "before anyone really says anything at all," which is, like, hedging the fact that nobody had said anything at all

[Dylan32]

Calling a Jake/IDPTG scum team. It all makes sense to me. The bussing patterns are really great for two newer players.

-IDPTG calls out his scum buddy and me with a comment that won't get any traction, but that he could source later in the game. You know those posts that scum makes that are like 'Well if I'm scum, why would I post that??!!' IDPTG's original accusation is that type of post.

-But IDPTG's comment has some merit. Why haven't Jake and I been arguing? It's true that I haven't dedicated really any time to this game, but you'd think Jake would say something to get my knickers in a twist. Yet he hasn't. Why?
 
-It's because Jake has adjusted his play style when he's scum. Back in his debut game, he got lynched real quick for his style. He didn't change it after that because every time after that he was town. But now he's not town, so he's changed his play style because the other way got him lynched. This seems like classic!relatively!new!scum! to me.

-Finally, he replies quite aggressively and forcefully to IDPTG. Now, I don't pretend to be in Jake's mind, but I think I can #relate to him more than anyone else currently in this game. And several times as scum, I've thought about bussing my partner crazy hard. I think this is what Jake's doing. In Portal Mafia not bussing didn't work, so now he's at the other extreme. This makes perfect sense to me.

-Finally, we have IDPTG's replies. I'm currently in the notes app without Wifi so I don't got no quotes, but it didn't seem like he was defending himself. If Jake was a gunman shooting at IDPTG, IDPTG isn't shooting back, he's just telling Jake what a terrible shot he is. Could this be because IDPTG is actually scum so he's having trouble defending himself? Maybe. This alone isn't that much evidence, but combined with everything else I think the scum narrative for both Jake and IDPTG is very clear. Their interactions is the cherry on top, so I would encourage people who are struggling to get into this game or don't really know what to do to vote for Jake or IDPTG. Early wagons are good, early wagons with evidence are better. So vote up!

Yeah, I agree with schadd. It's good enough I will un-rule out a IDPTG/Jake team, but not much more for now.

I just want schadd to answer my question.

sorry, only saw this now

I don't know if your dayvig is going to go through or not schadd, but if so, why kill gkrieg immediately? His town games have been really strong recently. What makes you confident enough to know he is scum before anyone really says anything at all?

this question seemed silly to me, especially "before anyone really says anything at all," which is, like, hedging the fact that nobody had said anything at all

Dude, I have a history of making sentences overly complex. I'm trying to break that habit, but it's tough when you're used to having to add as much BS as possible to hit page length requirements for papers.

[schadd]

just cite more things

[Dylan32]

just cite more things

What exactly would you like me to cite?

[schadd]

depends on what sources you tend to use in your papers

[Dylan32]

depends on what sources you tend to use in your papers

Oh I thought you meant cite more examples of stuff in game. yeah the problem is most of my recent papers have been reflection/personal experience papers. Way harder to cite stuff and easier to bs.

[faust]

Calling a Jake/IDPTG scum team. It all makes sense to me. The bussing patterns are really great for two newer players.

I don't think I even want to read a post that theorizes about scum partners on D1.

[faust]

Especially not if it contains RR scumreading Jake. Like, are you at some point going to realize that you are awfully bad at reading Jake?

[faust]

sorry, faust, I can't vote SA any more. They look townieish to me.
I will return to vote: Dylan32

Why?

[schadd]

Calling a Jake/IDPTG scum team. It all makes sense to me. The bussing patterns are really great for two newer players.

I don't think I even want to read a post that theorizes about scum partners on D1.

woof. stay out of my QT then

[schadd]

i think a vote for nothing game related is a bit under your pay grade

[LaLight]

sorry, faust, I can't vote SA any more. They look townieish to me.
I will return to vote: Dylan32

Why?

1) They made a serious not-RVS vote
2) I know that at this moment they can not contribute much due to IRL stuff.

[mcmcsalot]

depends on what sources you tend to use in your papers

Oh I thought you meant cite more examples of stuff in game. yeah the problem is most of my recent papers have been reflection/personal experience papers. Way harder to cite stuff and easier to bs.

But Dylan why would you assume schadd was talking about the game...vote: schadd he is acti lurking, posting a lot of day 1 content which is doing nothing but confusing and hurting town. Previously I viewed his behavior (talking about dayvigging) as anti town, his continued comments about non game real things are enough of a pattern to call him scummy now. It's actively hurtin town and looking like he's contributing.

[Robz888]

Especially not if it contains RR scumreading Jake. Like, are you at some point going to realize that you are awfully bad at reading Jake?

This.

[Robz888]

That said, I'm getting a town!read on RR, mostly because he seems more active and engaged, and in my recent experience, active and engaged seems like the opposite of a scumtell for RR.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Just a heads up, I no longer have jury duty and I'm back at my usual job so I won't be able to be as active.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Calling a Jake/IDPTG scum team. It all makes sense to me. The bussing patterns are really great for two newer players.

-IDPTG calls out his scum buddy and me with a comment that won't get any traction, but that he could source later in the game. You know those posts that scum makes that are like 'Well if I'm scum, why would I post that??!!' IDPTG's original accusation is that type of post.

-But IDPTG's comment has some merit. Why haven't Jake and I been arguing? It's true that I haven't dedicated really any time to this game, but you'd think Jake would say something to get my knickers in a twist. Yet he hasn't. Why?
 
-It's because Jake has adjusted his play style when he's scum. Back in his debut game, he got lynched real quick for his style. He didn't change it after that because every time after that he was town. But now he's not town, so he's changed his play style because the other way got him lynched. This seems like classic!relatively!new!scum! to me.

-Finally, he replies quite aggressively and forcefully to IDPTG. Now, I don't pretend to be in Jake's mind, but I think I can #relate to him more than anyone else currently in this game. And several times as scum, I've thought about bussing my partner crazy hard. I think this is what Jake's doing. In Portal Mafia not bussing didn't work, so now he's at the other extreme. This makes perfect sense to me.

-Finally, we have IDPTG's replies. I'm currently in the notes app without Wifi so I don't got no quotes, but it didn't seem like he was defending himself. If Jake was a gunman shooting at IDPTG, IDPTG isn't shooting back, he's just telling Jake what a terrible shot he is. Could this be because IDPTG is actually scum so he'shaving trouble  defending himself? Maybe. This alone isn't that much evidence, but combined with everything else I think the scum narrative for both Jake and IDPTG is very clear. Their interactions is the cherry on top, so I would encourage people who are struggling to get into this game or don't really know what to do to vote for Jake or IDPTG. Early wagons are good, early wagons with evidence are better. So vote up!

ummm so this is just what i said about dylan and IDPTG except with me instead of dylan right? We haven't been arguing because i would rather look for scum then argue with you. I do agree that IDPTG's response to a TBH average theory that no one really cared about except him is scummy. I agree early wagon's can be good but I think that IDPTG's wagon would be much more valid and have more evidence than a jake wagon. Vote: IDPTG

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Calling a Jake/IDPTG scum team. It all makes sense to me. The bussing patterns are really great for two newer players.

-IDPTG calls out his scum buddy and me with a comment that won't get any traction, but that he could source later in the game. You know those posts that scum makes that are like 'Well if I'm scum, why would I post that??!!' IDPTG's original accusation is that type of post.

-But IDPTG's comment has some merit. Why haven't Jake and I been arguing? It's true that I haven't dedicated really any time to this game, but you'd think Jake would say something to get my knickers in a twist. Yet he hasn't. Why?
 
-It's because Jake has adjusted his play style when he's scum. Back in his debut game, he got lynched real quick for his style. He didn't change it after that because every time after that he was town. But now he's not town, so he's changed his play style because the other way got him lynched. This seems like classic!relatively!new!scum! to me.

-Finally, he replies quite aggressively and forcefully to IDPTG. Now, I don't pretend to be in Jake's mind, but I think I can #relate to him more than anyone else currently in this game. And several times as scum, I've thought about bussing my partner crazy hard. I think this is what Jake's doing. In Portal Mafia not bussing didn't work, so now he's at the other extreme. This makes perfect sense to me.

-Finally, we have IDPTG's replies. I'm currently in the notes app without Wifi so I don't got no quotes, but it didn't seem like he was defending himself. If Jake was a gunman shooting at IDPTG, IDPTG isn't shooting back, he's just telling Jake what a terrible shot he is. Could this be because IDPTG is actually scum so he'shaving trouble  defending himself? Maybe. This alone isn't that much evidence, but combined with everything else I think the scum narrative for both Jake and IDPTG is very clear. Their interactions is the cherry on top, so I would encourage people who are struggling to get into this game or don't really know what to do to vote for Jake or IDPTG. Early wagons are good, early wagons with evidence are better. So vote up!

ummm so this is just what i said about dylan and IDPTG except with me instead of dylan right? We haven't been arguing because i would rather look for scum then argue with you. I do agree that IDPTG's response to a TBH average theory that no one really cared about except him is scummy. I agree early wagon's can be good but I think that IDPTG's wagon would be much more valid and have more evidence than a jake wagon. Vote: IDPTG

What is this? Double OMGUS? Except neither of you can make a case for me being scum so you try to make it a scum team?

RR- your case for the Jake/IDPTG scum team was amusing. You barely mentioned me. The first thing you did was classify one of my posts. Then you talked about Jake being scum for a while. At the very end, you posited that my responses to Jake possibly indicate that I'm scum because I never said, "I'm not scum" and chose to show why Jake's argument was illogical instead. Despite claiming there's a scum narrative for both me and Jake, you just talked about Jake for nearly the entire post.

Jake- you haven't said anything new and you still seem to think I'm scum because you couldn't answer my questions about your "theory" (read: OMGUS vote).

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Calling a Jake/IDPTG scum team. It all makes sense to me. The bussing patterns are really great for two newer players.

-IDPTG calls out his scum buddy and me with a comment that won't get any traction, but that he could source later in the game. You know those posts that scum makes that are like 'Well if I'm scum, why would I post that??!!' IDPTG's original accusation is that type of post.

-But IDPTG's comment has some merit. Why haven't Jake and I been arguing? It's true that I haven't dedicated really any time to this game, but you'd think Jake would say something to get my knickers in a twist. Yet he hasn't. Why?
 
-It's because Jake has adjusted his play style when he's scum. Back in his debut game, he got lynched real quick for his style. He didn't change it after that because every time after that he was town. But now he's not town, so he's changed his play style because the other way got him lynched. This seems like classic!relatively!new!scum! to me.

-Finally, he replies quite aggressively and forcefully to IDPTG. Now, I don't pretend to be in Jake's mind, but I think I can #relate to him more than anyone else currently in this game. And several times as scum, I've thought about bussing my partner crazy hard. I think this is what Jake's doing. In Portal Mafia not bussing didn't work, so now he's at the other extreme. This makes perfect sense to me.

-Finally, we have IDPTG's replies. I'm currently in the notes app without Wifi so I don't got no quotes, but it didn't seem like he was defending himself. If Jake was a gunman shooting at IDPTG, IDPTG isn't shooting back, he's just telling Jake what a terrible shot he is. Could this be because IDPTG is actually scum so he'shaving trouble  defending himself? Maybe. This alone isn't that much evidence, but combined with everything else I think the scum narrative for both Jake and IDPTG is very clear. Their interactions is the cherry on top, so I would encourage people who are struggling to get into this game or don't really know what to do to vote for Jake or IDPTG. Early wagons are good, early wagons with evidence are better. So vote up!

ummm so this is just what i said about dylan and IDPTG except with me instead of dylan right? We haven't been arguing because i would rather look for scum then argue with you. I do agree that IDPTG's response to a TBH average theory that no one really cared about except him is scummy. I agree early wagon's can be good but I think that IDPTG's wagon would be much more valid and have more evidence than a jake wagon. Vote: IDPTG

What is this? Double OMGUS? Except neither of you can make a case for me being scum so you try to make it a scum team?

RR- your case for the Jake/IDPTG scum team was amusing. You barely mentioned me. The first thing you did was classify one of my posts. Then you talked about Jake being scum for a while. At the very end, you posited that my responses to Jake possibly indicate that I'm scum because I never said, "I'm not scum" and chose to show why Jake's argument was illogical instead. Despite claiming there's a scum narrative for both me and Jake, you just talked about Jake for nearly the entire post.

Jake- you haven't said anything new and you still seem to think I'm scum because you couldn't answer my questions about your "theory" (read: OMGUS vote).

Isn't omgus when you vote for someone who is calling you scum? If so I would have voted RR but instead I read RR's case and agreed with the parts about IDPTG plus my personal sentiments and voted for you. That's not OMGUS I don't think.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Calling a Jake/IDPTG scum team. It all makes sense to me. The bussing patterns are really great for two newer players.

-IDPTG calls out his scum buddy and me with a comment that won't get any traction, but that he could source later in the game. You know those posts that scum makes that are like 'Well if I'm scum, why would I post that??!!' IDPTG's original accusation is that type of post.

-But IDPTG's comment has some merit. Why haven't Jake and I been arguing? It's true that I haven't dedicated really any time to this game, but you'd think Jake would say something to get my knickers in a twist. Yet he hasn't. Why?
 
-It's because Jake has adjusted his play style when he's scum. Back in his debut game, he got lynched real quick for his style. He didn't change it after that because every time after that he was town. But now he's not town, so he's changed his play style because the other way got him lynched. This seems like classic!relatively!new!scum! to me.

-Finally, he replies quite aggressively and forcefully to IDPTG. Now, I don't pretend to be in Jake's mind, but I think I can #relate to him more than anyone else currently in this game. And several times as scum, I've thought about bussing my partner crazy hard. I think this is what Jake's doing. In Portal Mafia not bussing didn't work, so now he's at the other extreme. This makes perfect sense to me.

-Finally, we have IDPTG's replies. I'm currently in the notes app without Wifi so I don't got no quotes, but it didn't seem like he was defending himself. If Jake was a gunman shooting at IDPTG, IDPTG isn't shooting back, he's just telling Jake what a terrible shot he is. Could this be because IDPTG is actually scum so he'shaving trouble  defending himself? Maybe. This alone isn't that much evidence, but combined with everything else I think the scum narrative for both Jake and IDPTG is very clear. Their interactions is the cherry on top, so I would encourage people who are struggling to get into this game or don't really know what to do to vote for Jake or IDPTG. Early wagons are good, early wagons with evidence are better. So vote up!

ummm so this is just what i said about dylan and IDPTG except with me instead of dylan right? We haven't been arguing because i would rather look for scum then argue with you. I do agree that IDPTG's response to a TBH average theory that no one really cared about except him is scummy. I agree early wagon's can be good but I think that IDPTG's wagon would be much more valid and have more evidence than a jake wagon. Vote: IDPTG

What is this? Double OMGUS? Except neither of you can make a case for me being scum so you try to make it a scum team?

RR- your case for the Jake/IDPTG scum team was amusing. You barely mentioned me. The first thing you did was classify one of my posts. Then you talked about Jake being scum for a while. At the very end, you posited that my responses to Jake possibly indicate that I'm scum because I never said, "I'm not scum" and chose to show why Jake's argument was illogical instead. Despite claiming there's a scum narrative for both me and Jake, you just talked about Jake for nearly the entire post.

Jake- you haven't said anything new and you still seem to think I'm scum because you couldn't answer my questions about your "theory" (read: OMGUS vote).

1. I answered any questions you had
2. If you have any you would like me to anwser just ask.

[schadd]

depends on what sources you tend to use in your papers

Oh I thought you meant cite more examples of stuff in game. yeah the problem is most of my recent papers have been reflection/personal experience papers. Way harder to cite stuff and easier to bs.

But Dylan why would you assume schadd was talking about the game...vote: schadd he is acti lurking, posting a lot of day 1 content which is doing nothing but confusing and hurting town. Previously I viewed his behavior (talking about dayvigging) as anti town, his continued comments about non game real things are enough of a pattern to call him scummy now. It's actively hurtin town and looking like he's contributing.

can you:
-explain why the dayvig was anti-town
-point out a example of the "non game real things" other than the one you quoted