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[The_Wine_Merchant]

Oh wait, you were responding to gkrieg.  I thought you were responding to faust.  So why are you so confident Awaclus is town?

That is exactly what I meant and I already told you this:

I took faust's assumption about Awaclus, whether I agree with it or not, and then extrapolated it as an assumption without stating specifically that I had, when it should be pretty obvious that is what I meant. It is all just wording.

Do you know what happens when you assume?

No. What happens?

You make a "butt" (first three letters) out of u and me. Assume

I don't get it. You should probably spell it out for me.

[Roadrunner7671]

Don't try to get Jake banned 

[Awaclus]

I'm not voting? Vote: Jake

Why?

Why not?

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I'm not voting? Vote: Jake

Why?

Why not?

Because theirs better choices...like you Vote: Awaclus

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm not voting? Vote: Jake

Why?

Why not?

Because theirs better choices...like you Vote: Awaclus

Um...no. Don't do that. Blatant OMGUS is pretty awful.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I'm not voting? Vote: Jake

Why?

Why not?

Because theirs better choices...like you Vote: Awaclus

Um...no. Don't do that. Blatant OMGUS is pretty awful.

I was already voting him one and two I've put a case on him and do believe he is scum so how is that OMGUS?

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm not voting? Vote: Jake

Why?

Why not?

Because theirs better choices...like you Vote: Awaclus

Um...no. Don't do that. Blatant OMGUS is pretty awful.

I was already voting him one and two I've put a case on him and do believe he is scum so how is that OMGUS?

OMGUS: Oh My God You Suck -- generally cited when a vote or suspicion is based on reciprocity.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I'm not voting? Vote: Jake

Why?

Why not?

Because theirs better choices...like you Vote: Awaclus

Um...no. Don't do that. Blatant OMGUS is pretty awful.

I was already voting him one and two I've put a case on him and do believe he is scum so how is that OMGUS?

OMGUS: Oh My God You Suck -- generally cited when a vote or suspicion is based on reciprocity.

Do you not understand what this means?

[faust]

I'm not voting? Vote: Jake

Why?

Why not?

Because theirs better choices...like you Vote: Awaclus

Um...no. Don't do that. Blatant OMGUS is pretty awful.

I was already voting him one and two I've put a case on him and do believe he is scum so how is that OMGUS?

OMGUS: Oh My God You Suck -- generally cited when a vote or suspicion is based on reciprocity.

But it's not OMGUS since Jake's Awaclus read dates back to way before Awaclus voted for Jake.

I don't get why everyone tries to frame Jake's play as awful when it is pretty obvious that he has made some great progress and he's definitely a more pro-town force than, say, RR.

[Roadrunner7671]

I'm not voting? Vote: Jake

Why?

Why not?

Because theirs better choices...like you Vote: Awaclus

Um...no. Don't do that. Blatant OMGUS is pretty awful.

I was already voting him one and two I've put a case on him and do believe he is scum so how is that OMGUS?

OMGUS: Oh My God You Suck -- generally cited when a vote or suspicion is based on reciprocity.

Do you not understand what this means?

rec·i·proc·i·ty
ˌresəˈpräsədē/
noun
the practice of exchanging things with others for mutual benefit, especially privileges granted by one country or organization to another.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I'm not voting? Vote: Jake

Why?

Why not?

Because theirs better choices...like you Vote: Awaclus

Um...no. Don't do that. Blatant OMGUS is pretty awful.

I was already voting him one and two I've put a case on him and do believe he is scum so how is that OMGUS?

OMGUS: Oh My God You Suck -- generally cited when a vote or suspicion is based on reciprocity.

But it's not OMGUS since Jake's Awaclus read dates back to way before Awaclus voted for Jake.

I don't get why everyone tries to frame Jake's play as awful when it is pretty obvious that he has made some great progress and he's definitely a more pro-town force than, say, RR.

Thank You. I think the people who are voting me don't get that.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I don't get why everyone tries to frame Jake's play as awful when it is pretty obvious that he has made some great progress and he's definitely a more pro-town force than, say, RR.

I would say that you don't understand the reason why I am, I can't speak for the others, voting for him then.

[Awaclus]

Because theirs better choices...like you Vote: Awaclus

So you're scum then. Good to know my vote is on the right person.

[Joseph2302]

I'm serial killer by the way

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I'm serial killer by the way

Dude stop or I'll try to lynch you just because of how annoying that is no matter your role.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I think I hear excuses and words but no reasons to lynch me.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Did anyone notice how two of my scum reads started to find me scummy after I said that they were scum.

[gkrieg13]

Did anyone notice how two of my scum reads started to find me scummy after I said that they were scum.

I thought it went the other way around.

[Awaclus]

I think I hear excuses and words but no reasons to lynch me.

I don't need reasons to lynch you. You need reasons why I shouldn't lynch you.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

Did anyone notice how two of my scum reads started to find me scummy after I said that they were scum.

If you are talking about me. That is false, post 896.

This is when I voted for you:

Ok so and case you have been living under a rock i'm really pissed right now. That was one of the worst conducted lynch's I've ever seen. Seriously i had sorta scum read robz but he became way townier as the day went on and he was clearly the wrong lynch choice. Will rant more when I have more time later as well as drop some scum read and deadline reactions.

vote: Jake

This is where you expressed suspicion of me, post 904.

Ok so and case you have been living under a rock i'm really pissed right now. That was one of the worst conducted lynch's I've ever seen. Seriously i had sorta scum read robz but he became way townier as the day went on and he was clearly the wrong lynch choice. Will rant more when I have more time later as well as drop some scum read and deadline reactions.

vote: Jake

Come on, there's no way Jake is scum.

Keep in mind that TWM has never played with Jake, and Jake would certainly seem scummy to someone who's never played with him.

That being said, I don't think Jake is scum either. But I also don't think he's that upset over the Robz lynch

Really you don't think? But i know I am and also I have my 4 scum reads if anyone wants them

Which comes first 904 or 896?

[gkrieg13]

Ok, so I have Awaclus, faust, Joseph as town reads, so with 10 people alive, that leaves 3 scum in 6.  Going back and doing some wagon analysis now.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Did anyone notice how two of my scum reads started to find me scummy after I said that they were scum.

If you are talking about me. That is false, post 896.

This is when I voted for you:

Ok so and case you have been living under a rock i'm really pissed right now. That was one of the worst conducted lynch's I've ever seen. Seriously i had sorta scum read robz but he became way townier as the day went on and he was clearly the wrong lynch choice. Will rant more when I have more time later as well as drop some scum read and deadline reactions.

vote: Jake

This is where you expressed suspicion of me, post 904.

Ok so and case you have been living under a rock i'm really pissed right now. That was one of the worst conducted lynch's I've ever seen. Seriously i had sorta scum read robz but he became way townier as the day went on and he was clearly the wrong lynch choice. Will rant more when I have more time later as well as drop some scum read and deadline reactions.

vote: Jake

Come on, there's no way Jake is scum.

Keep in mind that TWM has never played with Jake, and Jake would certainly seem scummy to someone who's never played with him.

That being said, I don't think Jake is scum either. But I also don't think he's that upset over the Robz lynch

Really you don't think? But i know I am and also I have my 4 scum reads if anyone wants them

Which comes first 904 or 896?

I said I suppescted u in D-1 before that post. Will post it later

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Ok, so I have Awaclus, faust, Joseph as town reads, so with 10 people alive, that leaves 3 scum in 6.  Going back and doing some wagon analysis now.

How do u have awa as a town read?

[faust]

ReRead:

Jokey start as expected.

vote: jake
I don't tend to see eye to eye with Joseph all the time, but his wagon has no merit. Especially since it's Joseph. I mean, come on, this is classic Joseph play! He'd act like this regardless of alignment (I think).

Jake, however, has a bunch of Golds. Which I don't like.

This is the first instance of voting for Jake. He also defends Joseph.

I would say RR voting for Jake is slightly scummy though.

Every game I've ever played with Jake, I think I've voted for him. And that must've been D1 or D2.

This definitely earns some scum points. Especially with this insistence:

Yes. Doing something just because you have done it before and are trying to replicate it is worthy of a vote.

Vote: roadrunner

I was pointing out that me voting for Jake isn't alignment indicative, but oh well.

Then he unvotes Jake. I do not know why.

2. IDontPlayThisGame
3. Robz888 (asterisk)
4. Jakethebaseballgod22
5. Calamitas
6. Awaclus
9. mcmcsalot
10. faust
12. gkrieg13

My lynch pool for today. Not because any of these people are scummy, but because the people I took out are towny.

So which people did he take out? TWM, EFHW, Joseph. Joseph is obvious and the other two kind of consensual townish reads. This post really provides nothing of substance.

Unvote

Was this unvote because Joseph gave you scum points for voting Jake?

No, Joseph will give me scum points for breathing. This was because Jake seemed to have lost his tunneling mindset and I don't particularly want to lynch jake D1

This is also something I don't like.

I don't intend to hammer, but I want Joseph to know that he's been less and less towny. That being said, I seriously doubt Joseph will get lynched today so it doesn't really matter

This is weird. I think scum!RR is more likely to shy away from a town hammer.

He continues to defend Joseph afterwards. Weird since of course we won't lynch him, he's a claimed PR. Why does he still feel a need to defend him? I don't know.

Wow, okay. I'm caught up. I think you guys (Robz, EFHW, Awaclus) are reading between the lines too much. Is this scummy? No. But I do think one of those three are scum and EFHW isn't in my lynch pool, so lynching Robz isn't the worst. I'm also going to intend to hammer, but keep in mind that I have no spine.

This is when Robz is at L-1 and there's intent to hammer from Joseph. The reasoning is fantastically horrible. Also referring to an earlier read instead of posting off the top of our head (see the EFHW bit) is something scum tends to do because fake reads are harder to remember.

McMc and RR who are your 3?

Mcmcsalot brought up the point that scum would want to know exactly the information you're trying to provide. I'm not saying you're scum, but I do think scum would benefit more than town from this information.

I get that but unless we narrow the lynch pool our lynch will be forced at the last moment and not thought through because we couldn't come to a decision there fore if we narrow the lynch pool we will have a more consensus and non forced lynch so please whats your top 3?

I have posted a lynch pool in the past. I could throw together a reads list. But, especially after most people have already said their three, I see little reason for me to give mine.

Not exactly sure why RR does not want to post his reads. Maybe trying to buddy up mcmc?

Yeah #646 looks really bad for Jake. And even though he gets the 'Jake pass,' his best tactic for staying alive might be to not poke the ashersky.

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.

There is lots of pretty useless discussion with Jake.

I'm actually pretty sure that if Jake is scum, he's try D1 bussing. It just seems like the type of thing scum!Jake would want to experiment with. That being said, Jake seems surprisingly towny this game, but I want my observation to be know so I can at least, if nothing else, get to say 'I told you so.'

I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.

Then nothing until the deadline. RR votes for nobody except Jake on D1. We basically know nothing about his scum reads.

Then there is today, which still doesn't give us any of RR's reads except he seems to think Jake is town and posts lots and lots of distracting stuff.

Vote: RR

PPE: 8

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I said I suppescted u in D-1 before that post. Will post it later

And I am not allowed to suspect anyone that suspected me during the whole of Day1?