This is a weird D-1 in my opinion. If we want to get a lynch we need to narrow the lynch pool to 3 people. Tomorrow as in January 6th we narrow the lynch pool and make cases on the 3. Then on deadline day we lynch the one with the best case. First we neeeeedddd to narrow the lynch pool or it will be a no lynch or a poor last minute one. Everyone submit your choices for the three and include cases. Therefore I urge all to submit your choices.
Scummy plan, it hurts town to stop giving reads and give would lynch lists so early day 1 when wagons can form super fast and all interactions are helpful for later.
McMc and RR who are your 3?
Mcmcsalot brought up the point that scum would want to know exactly the information you're trying to provide. I'm not saying you're scum, but I do think scum would benefit more than town from this information.
I get that but unless we narrow the lynch pool our lynch will be forced at the last moment and not thought through because we couldn't come to a decision there fore if we narrow the lynch pool we will have a more consensus and non forced lynch so please whats your top 3?
I have posted a lynch pool in the past. I could throw together a reads list. But, especially after most people have already said their three, I see little reason for me to give mine.
Just do a top 3 list. Voting End's at 9 pm forum time on January 5th. If people want a longer deadline just ask and I will extend it.
Why do you insist unless we follow your plan there will be a rushed deadline lynch. Actually it is possible from what I have heard you don't typically last long in a game and are usually mislynched so extreme paranoia over a "rushed" lynch or a lynch on you is reasonable from a town!jake perspective.
Just checked out the setup post -- looks like quite possibly the greatest setup ever made. That's just an unbiased outsider's opinion, though.
Also, wth is Jake talking about with regards to the deadline?
We are narrowing the lynch pool to 3 people so every one is giving the three people they want to be in the pool and when we get 9 votes in total I will establish it. Currently at 6.
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Everybody has different opinions on who is scum so we need to make a consensus lynch pool that will allow us to make a decision on who were going to lynch and not have a no lynch or rushed deadline lynch that was not well thought through.
yes lots of opinions, I would love to hear those and organically allow a wagon to build as a good case/opinion is made! You are quelling that discussion by forcing this 3 lynch pool idea!
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This is why I tried to narrow the lynch pool because there is no one person who were debating over now and every one is just throwing out different people. If we had narrowed it even if it helped scum we may have been able to have a consensus lynch not a rushed deadline vote. If we had three people that we could debate over then everybody could have made cases for or against said player. It would not have been chaos(Which btw helps scum a lot) like it is now.
So now you are coming around to understanding that this plan allows for scum to vote with no recourse tomorrow because it was the "consensus", but you are still so paranoid about a rushed lynch that you think the best plan would still be coming to a consensus. Really this is where you have to understand we can't limit discussion to be about three people and only make cases on them, it is so weirdly restricting. And what you are describing as chaos is players trying to post opinions and reads. D1 can almost always be described as chaotic, its mafia and we know nothing!
It would not have been chaos(Which btw helps scum a lot) like it is now.
I don't feel like it is chaos.
Who have we all been talking over recently? There have been 3 different people voted for in the last 2 pages when we should be narrowing down our choices as we approach the deadline. Scum wants a rushed deadline lynch because it creates chaos and is hard to read. That is what is going to happen and that is what we don't want.
I agree with the fact that scum would love a rushed deadline lynch, but don't you see you keep saying we should have narrowed down to three people instead of just making cases and that is partially adding to the delay of things.
I also don't feel very confident about lynching anyone today.
Then why do you keep trying to narrow the lynch pool and direct everyone if you don't really care?
Because I don't feel confidently about lynching anyone but i still want a decent lynch that most people agree on not a rushed deadline one.
Again, I am understanding your sentiment that day 1 is crazy and reads are weak, but statements like who most people agree on are not helpful. We agree with eachother by voting and then forming a wagon, not saying who we would be willing to lynch based off of the discussion so far and then forming orderly cases on those people.
I would prefer a robz or mcmc lynch. mcmc is lurking hard and as soon as we started to point that out he came in caused a to of chaos and then went back to lurking so it's not really just a lurker lynch.
What I came in and did was post a reads!!!!!!! Like those things you could be doing.
WE HAVE 18 HOURS!!! why does no one seem to be interested in lynching anyone. Everyone is talking about how much chaos there is instead of focusing on who we are going to lynch. I still say we lynch robz.
Again, the paranoia is understandable and at this point i'm sure you feel like you are getting nowhere(because you aren't) and that is causing this overblown reaction which again I hope you see is part of the problem.
After all of this I guess the conclusion I come to is that Jake just has a really bad plan, doesn't understand that it is causing the problem he is trying to avoid, and as time goes on is getting more desperate because he has not been a part of many successful day ones.
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