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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #550 on: January 05, 2017, 10:44:53 am »

Oh, that's his own deadline for his top 3 thing.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #551 on: January 05, 2017, 10:45:41 am »

Ok no deadline when 9 people have voted the lynch pool will be created with the top 3 vote getters.
trying to do this in a linear fashion is also bad because it gives scum an equal voice without a chance of being caught.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #552 on: January 05, 2017, 10:45:55 am »

Just checked out the setup post -- looks like quite possibly the greatest setup ever made.  That's just an unbiased outsider's opinion, though.

Also, wth is Jake talking about with regards to the deadline?
We are narrowing the lynch pool to 3 people so every one is giving the three people they want to be in the pool and when we get 9 votes in total I will establish it. Currently at 6.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #553 on: January 05, 2017, 10:47:09 am »

Caught up and vote: jake I think robz made a good point that he pretty much only finds people scummy after other people find them scummy. Jake also pushed the robz wagon after it was explained that robz thought Awc was soft claiming.* Laslty while I agree that getting us to narrow the lynch pool as we approach deadline is a good thing I actually think the whole "let's post our 3 would lynch candidates" is really scummy. Think about it scum wants desperately to find out all the options town is willing to lynch and doesn't really care what the case is on those people. The best way to find that out is getting everyone's short list.


*about the robz wagon, I had the benefit of having seen the more recent pages and therefor robz explaination before going back and reading how it actually happened so my view is obviously tainted but I would have 100% been pushing to lynch Joseph after seeing awcs post, and I completely believe that is what robz thought. The fact that he believed the claim instantly then flipped right after awcs post seems pretty obvious to me.

I don't think Jake is really all that scummy for his actions.  I at least want him to live past D1 for once.

I do however think that this top 3 stuff is not really all that helpful.  It gives scum a lot of information, and it is also easy for them to hide their partners.  I think more than anything, it just wasn't thoroughly thought through.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #554 on: January 05, 2017, 10:47:53 am »

Just checked out the setup post -- looks like quite possibly the greatest setup ever made.  That's just an unbiased outsider's opinion, though.

Also, wth is Jake talking about with regards to the deadline?
We are narrowing the lynch pool to 3 people so every one is giving the three people they want to be in the pool and when we get 9 votes in total I will establish it. Currently at 6.

I don't think this is going to work exactly how you think it will.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #555 on: January 05, 2017, 10:50:59 am »

So at the end of all that, it seems like everyone so far has gkrieg in their lynchpool.

I don't.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #556 on: January 05, 2017, 10:52:12 am »

We are narrowing the lynch pool to 3 people so every one is giving the three people they want to be in the pool and when we get 9 votes in total I will establish it. Currently at 6.

I don't think This is not going to work. exactly how you think it will.
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Fixed that for you.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #557 on: January 05, 2017, 10:53:03 am »

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We are narrowing the lynch pool to 3 people so every one is giving the three people they want to be in the pool and when we get 9 votes in total I will establish it. Currently at 6.

I don't think This is not going to work. exactly how you think it will.

Fixed that for me to fix that for you.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #558 on: January 05, 2017, 10:53:50 am »

Just checked out the setup post -- looks like quite possibly the greatest setup ever made.  That's just an unbiased outsider's opinion, though.

Also, wth is Jake talking about with regards to the deadline?
We are narrowing the lynch pool to 3 people so every one is giving the three people they want to be in the pool and when we get 9 votes in total I will establish it. Currently at 6.

Is the "we" here you?  I'd like to see a show of hands from the we folk.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #559 on: January 05, 2017, 10:54:00 am »

This gives scum an equal voice, but without the possibility of us catching them based on what they say. This also stifles conversation about anything but the 3 player pool, which is not helping us catch scum. An analysis of someone's pool won't give us a read on them.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #560 on: January 05, 2017, 10:54:24 am »

Has anyone claimed anything?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #561 on: January 05, 2017, 10:54:44 am »

Has anyone claimed anything?
Joseph has claimed UB without a counterclaim.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #562 on: January 05, 2017, 10:55:01 am »

Vote Count 1.5

JaketheBaseballGod22 (1): Joseph2302
Robz888 (2): gkrieg13, Awaclus
Awaclus (1): Robz888
EFHW (2): JaketheBaseballGod22, The_Wine_Merchant
gkrieg13 (1): EFHW

Not Voting (5): Calamitas, IDontPlayThisGame, Roadrunner7671, faust, mcmcsalot

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends at Jan. 7th at 12:00 pm forum time.
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Everybody has different opinions on who is scum so we need to make a consensus lynch pool that will allow us to make a decision on who were going to lynch and not have a no lynch or rushed deadline lynch that was not well thought through.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #563 on: January 05, 2017, 10:55:09 am »

This gives scum an equal voice, but without the possibility of us catching them based on what they say. This also stifles conversation about anything but the 3 player pool, which is not helping us catch scum. An analysis of someone's pool won't give us a read on them.

This is like the most mature thing I have ever heard you say.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #564 on: January 05, 2017, 10:56:04 am »

Has anyone claimed anything?
Joseph has claimed UB without a counterclaim.

Did whomever I replaced post after that claim so we can assume I'm not the UB?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #565 on: January 05, 2017, 10:56:56 am »

This gives scum an equal voice, but without the possibility of us catching them based on what they say. This also stifles conversation about anything but the 3 player pool, which is not helping us catch scum. An analysis of someone's pool won't give us a read on them.

This is like the most mature thing I have ever heard you say.

What was the most mature thing you heard him say?
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #566 on: January 05, 2017, 10:57:16 am »

Also, not voting RR today.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #567 on: January 05, 2017, 10:57:46 am »

Has anyone claimed anything?
Joseph has claimed UB without a counterclaim.

Did whomever I replaced post after that claim so we can assume I'm not the UB?
No, actually. There was speculation that the UB just didn't want to counterclaim. but at this point most of us think Joseph is an IC.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #568 on: January 05, 2017, 10:58:10 am »

This gives scum an equal voice, but without the possibility of us catching them based on what they say. This also stifles conversation about anything but the 3 player pool, which is not helping us catch scum. An analysis of someone's pool won't give us a read on them.

This is like the most mature thing I have ever heard you say.


Also, not voting RR today.

Thanks guys!
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #569 on: January 05, 2017, 10:59:58 am »

Well I'll just say that Big G is the consensus top pick for scum so far.
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #570 on: January 05, 2017, 11:00:42 am »

I won't give you three.

Scum to town:

Jake - reasons given prior
Awc - really looked like he softclaimed and then also said he wasn't paying attention to the order of posts and did turn around to voting robz after there was an explaination..
Gkrieg - I do think the point about him seeming to pretend to be disinterested is valid.*
EFHW - for the strange fade away on the robz wagon.*
Faust - slighty scummy because I don't feel super towny toward Faust like I almost always do.*
Roadrunner - null, hasn't stood out to me
Idp - also null
TWM - Relatively towny, have agreed with many of his thoughts.
Calamitous - posting almost exactly how I expect him to at this point. Still disagree with some of his opinions on how Town would act vs scum but I think we just have different opinions. Stronger read on cal tbd at a later point.
Robz - towny as I felt the same way about the whole soft claim and did NOT look like what I would expect scum!robz to do at l-1 on d1 based on people not understanding what he did.
Joseph - Basically IC


*in my notes I took during my reread these were all people I thought were scummy for defending Jospeh when I think he honestly was acting really scummy before his claim. I would expect scum to defend someone they thought wasn't going to be super helpful to town and saw town players targeting him.

PPE 27!?!?!
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #571 on: January 05, 2017, 11:00:52 am »

Well I'll just say that Big G is the consensus top pick by scum so far.
Might've FTFY
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #572 on: January 05, 2017, 11:01:40 am »

PPE 27!?!?!
That just means you took a good amount of time to make a comprehensive reads list  ;)
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #573 on: January 05, 2017, 11:02:58 am »

PPE 27!?!?!
That just means you took a good amount of time to make a comprehensive reads list  ;)

And a wild ashersky appeared!!
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Re: M91: trouble in the Scouncil (schadnd mafia) (D1)
« Reply #574 on: January 05, 2017, 11:05:13 am »

I decided to check and make sure about the UB thing, which meant going against my previous intention to play the day out blind.  I figured if Joseph's lying, it was worth more to be sure than me having some D1 fun.

I'm out for the night all.

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