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[Awaclus]

I think gkrieg/Awaclus is a good place to look for scum.

Gkrieg is definitely a better place to look for scum than me.

[Roadrunner7671]

Why gkrieg?

[Awaclus]

Because I'm not scum.

[Roadrunner7671]

Because I'm not scum.

No, I meant that there hadn't seemed to be a case for gkrieg, nor any suspicion on him.

[EFHW]

I'll go with vote:gkrieg. His "I'm not paying attention" thing is starting to feel like an act.

[EFHW]

Adding space -- vote: gkrieg.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I'll go with vote:gkrieg. His "I'm not paying attention" thing is starting to feel like an act.

I thought he brought up a really good point about Robz previously pushing for claimed PR lynch as mafia. He would have had to have been paying attention to notice that.

[EFHW]

I'll go with vote:gkrieg. His "I'm not paying attention" thing is starting to feel like an act.

I thought he brought up a really good point about Robz previously pushing for claimed PR lynch as mafia. He would have had to have been paying attention to notice that.u

Right. I think it's an act. I think scum!gkrieg came up with that observation of Robz, given how he continued to push it after doubt had been created.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I'll go with vote:gkrieg. His "I'm not paying attention" thing is starting to feel like an act.

I thought he brought up a really good point about Robz previously pushing for claimed PR lynch as mafia. He would have had to have been paying attention to notice that.u

Right. I think it's an act. I think scum!gkrieg came up with that observation of Robz, given how he continued to push it after doubt had been created.

So you think he is pretending to not pay attention by pretending to pay attention?

[faust]

I'll go with vote:gkrieg. His "I'm not paying attention" thing is starting to feel like an act.

I thought he brought up a really good point about Robz previously pushing for claimed PR lynch as mafia. He would have had to have been paying attention to notice that.

I think the fact that scum!Robz did this before recently actually makes it less likely that he would do it again here.

[EFHW]

I'll go with vote:gkrieg. His "I'm not paying attention" thing is starting to feel like an act.

I thought he brought up a really good point about Robz previously pushing for claimed PR lynch as mafia. He would have had to have been paying attention to notice that.u

Right. I think it's an act. I think scum!gkrieg came up with that observation of Robz, given how he continued to push it after doubt had been created.

So you think he is pretending to not pay attention by pretending to pay attention?

!  No.  On two separate occasions - when I asked him who his scumreads were and when he voted for Robz, he stated he wasn't paying attention. I'm thinking that is feigned indifference. The Robz case was, perhaps, an attempt to use the parallel and Robz's past successes as scum to get Robz lynched.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

I'll go with vote:gkrieg. His "I'm not paying attention" thing is starting to feel like an act.

I thought he brought up a really good point about Robz previously pushing for claimed PR lynch as mafia. He would have had to have been paying attention to notice that.u

Right. I think it's an act. I think scum!gkrieg came up with that observation of Robz, given how he continued to push it after doubt had been created.

So you think he is pretending to not pay attention by pretending to pay attention?

!  No.  On two separate occasions - when I asked him who his scumreads were and when he voted for Robz, he stated he wasn't paying attention. I'm thinking that is feigned indifference. The Robz case was, perhaps, an attempt to use the parallel and Robz's past successes as scum to get Robz lynched.

OK. I get what you are saying. I just went through and looked through his posts. I only found one in response to you:

Will lynch most people but want to lynch Joseph because of his poor stunts.

The stunts that you say don't indicate he is scum?

gkrieg, who do you think is scummy?

Don't know yet. Haven't been paying enough attention honestly.

But only found one other and that was talking about the vote count, which is a different thing, I think:

vote: Robz

Haven't paid attention to vote counts

So I am not sure I agree with you. His first not paying attention was fairly early in the day. It was post 290. At that point you hadn't really given any mafia reads yourself (granted you did sub in part way) and took you to about post 390 to vote and give a mafia read yourself. So I think you are overstating your point here as he has been paying attention. The other post was about vote counts, which was reasonable as there were a bunch of Robz votes without a vote count at that time.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

vote: EFHW using faust's previously stated suspicion to vote for gkrieg on an overstated point.

[gkrieg13]

Adding space -- vote: gkrieg.

Honestly I was just waiting for other games to go into night. Now I'll spend more time on this one.

[EFHW]

vote: EFHW using faust's previously stated suspicion to vote for gkrieg on an overstated point.

I feel like you still don't get my point.  I'm not saying he isn't paying attention.  I'm saying he is projecting a disengaged attitude in an attempt to seem like town.  I can also see a a very plausible scum narrative for his case against Robz.

I am using faust's suggestion, as well.  But I won't vote Awaclus, who I think is town, and whom he also fingered with suspicion.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

vote: EFHW using faust's previously stated suspicion to vote for gkrieg on an overstated point.

I feel like you still don't get my point.  I'm not saying he isn't paying attention.  I'm saying he is projecting a disengaged attitude in an attempt to seem like town.  I can also see a a very plausible scum narrative for his case against Robz.

No I get your point. I am saying that there is exactly one example of this so-called projection. There aren't multiple, or a bunch. Just one. So I think you are exaggerating something to piggyback off faust's suspicion.

[EFHW]

vote: EFHW using faust's previously stated suspicion to vote for gkrieg on an overstated point.

I feel like you still don't get my point.  I'm not saying he isn't paying attention.  I'm saying he is projecting a disengaged attitude in an attempt to seem like town.  I can also see a a very plausible scum narrative for his case against Robz.

No I get your point. I am saying that there is exactly one example of this so-called projection. There aren't multiple, or a bunch. Just one. So I think you are exaggerating something to piggyback off faust's suspicion.

Voting without checking the vote count and stating that you are doing that is actually an unusual thing to do, and a careful player doesn't do that.  More later.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Vote: McEFHW

[Robz888]

Vote: McEFHW

Jake, it seems like you just always think the people other people think are scum are scum.

[gkrieg13]

vote: EFHW using faust's previously stated suspicion to vote for gkrieg on an overstated point.

I feel like you still don't get my point.  I'm not saying he isn't paying attention.  I'm saying he is projecting a disengaged attitude in an attempt to seem like town.  I can also see a a very plausible scum narrative for his case against Robz.

I am using faust's suggestion, as well.  But I won't vote Awaclus, who I think is town, and whom he also fingered with suspicion.

I really wasn't paying enough attention at that point to know who my scum reads are.  But I have done that as both town and as scum.  I think when I'm very involved in a game it is much easier to read me though.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Vote: McEFHW

Jake, it seems like you just always think the people other people think are scum are scum.

Nope I just saw a player who I thought was scum and voted them.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Also EFHW is one of my scum reads. The rest are Big G mcmc(lurking), TWM and robz.

[EFHW]

TWM, who do you think is scum, besides me, at this point?  Still think Robz?

[EFHW]

This post by gkrieg came after Robz presented his defense of thinking Awaclus was soft-claiming, which was supported by Robz's previous posts, but gkrieg just sticks to the same theory without acknowledging the new information.

Before people voted for Robz, I put a line in my QT saying that this confirms Robz to be scum.  I honestly think he is acting the same as he did when we lynched Jake as the vanilla cop.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

This post by gkrieg came after Robz presented his defense of thinking Awaclus was soft-claiming, which was supported by Robz's previous posts, but gkrieg just sticks to the same theory without acknowledging the new information.

Before people voted for Robz, I put a line in my QT saying that this confirms Robz to be scum.  I honestly think he is acting the same as he did when we lynched Jake as the vanilla cop.

He is though which is why I was looking at him as scum although can you explain the QT thing robz?