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[Calamitas]

And as I said, this case is not based on verbality. It is based on Joseph's attitude in regard to off-wagoners.

I think he may be wrong here, but still I see him sincerely assuming this possibility.

But do you really think someone believing the scumslip would act like that?

[LaLight]

And as I said, this case is not based on verbality. It is based on Joseph's attitude in regard to off-wagoners.

I think he may be wrong here, but still I see him sincerely assuming this possibility.

But do you really think someone believing the scumslip would act like that?

I think Joseph thinks so.

[Calamitas]

And as I said, this case is not based on verbality. It is based on Joseph's attitude in regard to off-wagoners.

I think he may be wrong here, but still I see him sincerely assuming this possibility.

But do you really think someone believing the scumslip would act like that?

I think Joseph thinks so.

Joseph believed the scumslip himself (at least he said so). I'm referring to his actions (declaring being off-wagon as towny). And I don't think someone genuinely believing the scumslip would come to that conclusion, ever.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

I don't know if I ever wrote it out fully, so here's why I stayed off the Jake wagon:

Jake seems like the easiest mislynch ever. I've played two games, both with him, and in both games he's been lynched D1. His "scumslips" have been false; he just screwed something up as town. I didn't know that this game; I was ready to hammer if needed. However, his mislynch D1 in M89 gave me pause. I wanted to give him a chance to prove himself, to show that it wasn't a scumslip but a mistake. Obviously, this didn't happen.

So. If I was ready to hammer, why didn't I do so before going to bed? My understanding is that lynches tend to happen at the deadline. There were still at least 10 hours to go before that. As I said, I knew I'd be around for the deadline, so I could still make my vote count.

Why haven't I voted this game? The number of votes needed for a lynch scares me. With two scum running around, if two town members are on the wrong wagon, scum jumps in and gets the mislynch. I'm not saying scum need to be the last two, just that it seems like an error is likely. As stated before, I'm used to lynches happening at the deadline. A mid-day lynch is foreign territory.

The conclusion is this: I was scared. I am scared. I haven't felt strongly enough about a scum read to overcome those fears. Jake and RR would be the two that could push me to vote sooner, but both have other reasons for me hedging; Jake's is above and RR's is my mistrust of the scum read. It seems odd to think someone is town because they seem scummy, but that's where I am.

My phone is back, so that VLA is over.

[Joseph2302]

Vote Count.LL
Calamitas (2): LaLight, Joseph
Joseph (3): Calamitas, faust, Dylan

Not Voting (2): IDontPlayThisGame, Roadrunner

Damn, guys. Calamitas being scum always dodges L-1's in some way. I won't hammer Joseph, that is a mistake.

For fucks sake guys.
This wagon is bad, and 1 or 2 people on it are bad

[Joseph2302]

And as I said, this case is not based on verbality. It is based on Joseph's attitude in regard to off-wagoners.

I think he may be wrong here, but still I see him sincerely assuming this possibility.

But do you really think someone believing the scumslip would act like that?

I think Joseph thinks so.

Joseph believed the scumslip himself (at least he said so). I'm referring to his actions (declaring being off-wagon as towny). And I don't think someone genuinely believing the scumslip would come to that conclusion, ever.

And for like the millionth time, I do.
Clearly Calamitas and I aren't on the same team, so make your decision on who you think is right.

[Joseph2302]

I'll try to post more tomorrow but whatever, seems like you've made your minds up.

I'm town and Calamitas isn't.

[Joseph2302]

Maybe next time I should just not post as much, since apparently being one of the biggest contributors to this game is scummy

[Calamitas]

And for like the millionth time, I do.
Clearly Calamitas and I aren't on the same team, so make your decision on who you think is right.

This doesn't make any sense, we might well be both town. I don't think so but it is a possibility nevertheless.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Maybe next time I should just not post as much, since apparently being one of the biggest contributors to this game is scummy

I think it's a flaw with the system here. The more you post, the more there is to read and some people aren't posting much (me being the biggest culprit).

As for this wagon, I'm against a Joseph lynch for now. He doesn't seem scummy enough, although this response could be from a frustrated scum!Joseph.

[Dylan32]

Maybe next time I should just not post as much, since apparently being one of the biggest contributors to this game is scummy

I think it's a flaw with the system here. The more you post, the more there is to read and some people aren't posting much (me being the biggest culprit).

As for this wagon, I'm against a Joseph lynch for now. He doesn't seem scummy enough, although this response could be from a frustrated scum!Joseph.

No, there are some people who are quite active and don't look scummy.  In fact, being more active is generally seen as towny.  I'm pretty sure the only reason you aren't at risk of getting lynched is because people seem to be giving you a pass for your limited internet access and phone situation. if you remember, a major wagon seemed like it was about to form up until you explained your limited posting.  I don't think posting too much is the issue here.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Maybe next time I should just not post as much, since apparently being one of the biggest contributors to this game is scummy

I think it's a flaw with the system here. The more you post, the more there is to read and some people aren't posting much (me being the biggest culprit).

As for this wagon, I'm against a Joseph lynch for now. He doesn't seem scummy enough, although this response could be from a frustrated scum!Joseph.

No, there are some people who are quite active and don't look scummy.  In fact, being more active is generally seen as towny.  I'm pretty sure the only reason you aren't at risk of getting lynched is because people seem to be giving you a pass for your limited internet access and phone situation. if you remember, a major wagon seemed like it was about to form up until you explained your limited posting.  I don't think posting too much is the issue here.

And I do appreciate the pass, but I also feel a bit bad about it. Unless the lurkiness is the main argument for me being scum. I should be around for the deadline tomorrow.

[Dylan32]

I think the lurkiness was the main reason for scum reading you, since there just isn't much to read.  Did you get your phone fixed?

[LaLight]

so, last day is ahead.

[Dylan32]

Ok, so my lynch pool for today is either Calamitas or Joseph.  I think there's a pretty good chance one of them is scum, but at this point I'm not sure which one actually is.  I would consider IDPTG, but I do believe their reason for being inactive so I really don't want to see us mislynch due to inactivity when there are better options anyway.

[Joseph2302]

Ok, so my lynch pool for today is either Calamitas or Joseph.  I think there's a pretty good chance one of them is scum, but at this point I'm not sure which one actually is.  I would consider IDPTG, but I do believe their reason for being inactive so I really don't want to see us mislynch due to inactivity when there are better options anyway.

everyone's lynch pool seems to be Calamitas and Joseph.
I'm certain Calamitas is scum though, he's been pushing so hard all day for my mislynch.

[LaLight]

10,5 hours to decide. I will prefer Joseph's lynch to no-lynch, but the hardness through which Calamitas lynch is going is an indication of scumness. I can't remember why faust is against it?

[faust]

10,5 hours to decide. I will prefer Joseph's lynch to no-lynch, but the hardness through which Calamitas lynch is going is an indication of scumness. I can't remember why faust is against it?

Because I think he was fairly towny so far. Townier than you anyway.

[faust]

I won't be here for the deadline. I have a thing starting at 1 pm forum time.

[Joseph2302]

Deadline = 3pm Forum = 8pm UK time

I should be around, although not sure what I can contribute given that I'm town, Calamitas is scum, but not enough people can see the light.

[LaLight]

10,5 hours to decide. I will prefer Joseph's lynch to no-lynch, but the hardness through which Calamitas lynch is going is an indication of scumness. I can't remember why faust is against it?

Because I think he was fairly towny so far. Townier than you anyway.

In what way I am not townie?

[Joseph2302]

If you lynch me, then I'll never play mafia again.

Let's see if I can blackmail people into some sense

[LaLight]

If you lynch me, then I'll never play mafia again.

Let's see if I can blackmail people into some sense

You lie :3

[Joseph2302]

If you lynch me, then I'll never play mafia again.

Let's see if I can blackmail people into some sense

You lie :3

You wanna test me?

[LaLight]

If you lynch me, then I'll never play mafia again.

Let's see if I can blackmail people into some sense

You lie :3

You wanna test me?

No! And I'm not voting you