Faust, looking at your list, it looks like you just stuck the two quietest or most under the radar at the bottom of your list. I agree one of them is probably scum, because the way this game has gone, if people weren't actively pointing it out now, under the radar would probably be the best place for scum to be. However, I don't think they probably both are, because that would probably be too suspicious if they suddenly needed to start talking to direct attention away from themselves. It sounds like Joseph has been around long enough that he would make sure either he or his partner were more active to prevent that. Either one could still be scum, but if Joseph is one, then I think his partner is probably someone who has been steering the conversation while he sat back until later.
That being said, this could be his normal level of posting and involvement and I'm reading too much into him being quiet.
IDPTG, about your reads: I've played one game with town!RR and one with scum!RR, and I read him backwards both games for periods of time. I agree that he has been more similar to town!RR than scum!RR, so I'm reading him as pretty towny. Although admittedly his limited involvement D2 is keeping me from personally calling him conf!town just yet.
Also IDPTG, I'm glad someone has been following my logic so far, but as a matter of improving your play, just because someone is saying what you are thinking doesn't always mean they are town. It can help you clarify your reads sometimes, but sometimes scum will overly agree with you or take sensible stances that you agree with just to get you on their side to help prevent wagons on them. I've been duped by scum who was doing that before and it sucks, so in the future maybe don't use that as your sole reason for town reading someone.
It seems like Faust has been moving the game forward a decent amount. Since it sounds like he is one of the if not the most experienced vets in this game, I would imagine he would be more than capable of doing that as both alignments. However, considering D1 was dominated by other people and led to a mislynch, I'm ok with viewing him as town for now since other people have been way more scummy than him. That being said, I don't feel as strongly about that as I do that RR is probably town.
Everyone has given me some reason to suspect they are scum at some point or another.
As has already been well covered, IDPTG's inactivity is either newb!scum or busy!town. I totally understand life happening, so if they continue to be more active like they have been very recently, I'm willing to accept it as busy!town, but for now the best I can say is scum to null with clear path to null/town by being more active.
Calamitas in general has just given off scummy vibes to me, from the way he handled the claim/don't claim discussion to pushing for Jake to self-hammer. I don't have a problem with him voting for or being so adamant that Jake scumslipped, but that early self-hammer push just sucked for wagon and EoD analysis later, even if he is town with good intentions. As of right now, he would be my favorite lynch, but I'm not so dead set on it that I wouldn't consider or support other wagons too. There are two scum after all!
LL's trick question to Jake did just seem like an elaborate setup. Even if IDPTG or I had received that question, either of us might have been tripped up by it because until I thought about it more carefully I thought flavor name and your role were related too. So my initial reaction mentally would have been similar to Jake's in thinking it meant claim your role and not wanting to say anything, although I hope I would have handled it and worded everything different. LL has also talked a decent amount about a Calamitas/IDPTG scum team and the game being solved, but then has been hedgy and looking elsewhere, like with the "I wish I had a scum-hunting plan..." post. If you really thought that was the team, or at least that was your entire lynch pool, wouldn't you just push harder for town to move towards one of them? While scum!LL would already know that is an artificial lynch pool and therefore hedge their bets for when they flipped town later. Then there is the possibility I laid out earlier where one of the two is the other scum. On the other hand, I could see an unsure town speculating on a scum team and then looking elsewhere too, so I'm not sure how to take this. I would lynch, but I think I would rather see how either Calamitas, IDPTG, or Joseph flip before deciding on LL, because I'm inclined to think LL was sincerely trying to catch scum, even though I don't agree with the tactics from D1.
If you want a ranking (well, I guess whether you want it or not cuz here it is), I would say right now I see it as:
(scum) Calamitas >> IDPTG >= Joseph > LL > faust >> RR (town).
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