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[Roadrunner7671]

Mod: Could I say something unrelated to the game to Alec, such as "Check the Dominion Forum"?

[LaLight]

Has Jake been scum before? Because this reads like town!Jake to me, but I'd like to check against a scum game.

He was at Portal Mafia. M87 I suppose.

[LaLight]

Mod: Could I say something unrelated to the game to Alec, such as "Check the Dominion Forum"?

You can say that there are Qvist's rankings posted! So he will got on the forums and notice the game

[Roadrunner7671]

Mod: Could I say something unrelated to the game to Alec, such as "Check the Dominion Forum"?

You can say that there are Qvist's rankings posted! So he will got on the forums and notice the game

Ha ha, you're right

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

But I play the same as each so it doesn't matter but you can decide that for yourself

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Mod: Could I say something unrelated to the game to Alec, such as "Check the Dominion Forum"?

You can say that there are Qvist's rankings posted! So he will got on the forums and notice the game

What is that?

[LaLight]

Mod: Could I say something unrelated to the game to Alec, such as "Check the Dominion Forum"?

You can say that there are Qvist's rankings posted! So he will got on the forums and notice the game

What is that?

Dominion-related stuff.

[gkrieg13]

But I play the same as each so it doesn't matter but you can decide that for yourself

You realize this is an actively anti-town sentiment. You should try to bring your scum game up to meet your town game instead of bringing your town game down and thinking of what you would do as scum. Especially because you'll be town more than you will be scum

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

But I play the same as each so it doesn't matter but you can decide that for yourself

You realize this is an actively anti-town sentiment. You should try to bring your scum game up to meet your town game instead of bringing your town game down and thinking of what you would do as scum. Especially because you'll be town more than you will be scum

I was just saying that but you people can make up your own minds.

[gkrieg13]

But I play the same as each so it doesn't matter but you can decide that for yourself

You realize this is an actively anti-town sentiment. You should try to bring your scum game up to meet your town game instead of bringing your town game down and thinking of what you would do as scum. Especially because you'll be town more than you will be scum

I was just saying that but you people can make up your own minds.

I'm just saying that when I was a newbie, I would be purposefully cryptic as town, which made me a much weaker town player, and a not very much stronger scum player.  I've since learned that it is much better to play your best as town and then try to match that with your scum play.

[faust]

I have skimmed the beginning of M87 and continue to think that Jake is town.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

I have skimmed the beginning of M87 and continue to think that Jake is town.

Thanks faust.

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

You shouldn't have to read too much I died D-2 like I always do.

[SpaceAnemone]

Also, I saw that Joseph is VLA, but where is Alec?

Prod: Alec

We need a little more input from you!

Prod sent.

[SpaceAnemone]

Mod: Could I say something unrelated to the game to Alec, such as "Check the Dominion Forum"?

Give it at least a few hours now that the second prod message has been sent. Also ask yourself whether you can definitely resist talking about the game if you start talking with him about the forum.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Jake's been a bit more controlled in his posting than in the game I played with him where he was town. I don't know if it's a difference in playstyle or finally using decent grammar.

[IDontPlayThisGame]

I'm willing to back off, hoping that it's the latter.

[gkrieg13]

Holy cow didn't realize that the deadline was so close

[LaLight]

Holy cow didn't realize that the deadline was so close

[IDontPlayThisGame]

Holy cow didn't realize that the deadline was so close

So we need to start making decisions. I'd like to hear from Alec first, but if he doesn't respond to the prod we'll have very little time.

[faust]

Holy cow didn't realize that the deadline was so close

So we need to start making decisions. I'd like to hear from Alec first, but if he doesn't respond to the prod we'll have very little time.

Well there's a replacement request open, so I don't think we'll see Alec again.

Also we have two days. It's not a lot, but also enough time that we don'tneed to rush things.

Can everone who is currently voting for someone please justify their vote?

I go first: I think Calamitas is scum because he constructed a scum read out of a theory disagreement and otherwise has given very little input in terms of reads.

[Joseph2302]

I'm back.
Will try and reread this evening, as I know deadline is 2 days.
Unvote for now

[Joseph2302]

Sorry for the VLA. Summary of my thoughts. So far today, the main things have been:

• faust suggested a possible claim, there was lots of debate for/against and consensus was against mass-claiming even for weak roles. Biggest contributors to the discussion were faust & Calamitas. Gkrieg supported faust's idea to claim (#167) LaLight was kind of quick to try and move the discussion on (#165), which seems a tad odd. After all, it seems to be the only in detail discussion here today.
• Jake's first contribution was RV (#188), followed by some "banter" with RR. Then some discussion after IDPTG voted for him. Followed by some more random nonsense "chat" between Jake & RR (#220), and a discussion on how Jake plays scum & town, which was summed up reasonably in #232 by gkrieg. faust thinks Jake is town. I would like to reserve judgement until I (skim) read other games he's been in. As is style seems very RVs

[Joseph2302]

Going to try and analyse each person individually now

[IDontPlayThisGame]

1. LaLight
Starts off the conversation by giving everyone a list of questions to answer. He wasn't opposed to the mass claim and said both sides had a point. I'm inclined to see those two as town-leaning, although the claim stance less so. He seems like helpful town LaLight from NM8 (assuming I'm remembering correctly). Going with town for now.

2. Calamitas
Mainly posting against the mass claim. As LaLight pointed out, both scenarios (claim vs no claim) help town, so I'm not convinced that this would indicate scum!Calamitas (is that the correct format?). Null read

3. JaketheBaseballGod22
Posted about Alec and created a defense against my accusation. As I said, his posts seem different from when I played with him as town, but that's mainly due to the grammar (which is a change I'm very happy to see). Still not convinced he's town, but I'm not totally sure that he's scum.
Unvote

4. NotTheRealAlec
Four posts. One votes Jake, one's a quote of the voting list, one says he'll be better about posting, and the last says he has no prior mafia experience. Nothing to read imo. Since it's his first game and people were kind enough to do this for me in mine, I'm not inclined to put him in today's lynch pool just because of lurking.

5. Joseph2302
Some RVS stuff and answering LaLight. Seemed to go VLA, so I don't think there's anything to read. I'm looking forward to his analysis.

6. Roadrunner7671
Talks about whether we're in RVS and takes a stance on claiming. He also confirms that Jake's account has not been compromised. Nothing to read yet.

8. faust
Tries to trick Alec into giving away his alignment. Personally, I support that move. Brings up, and subsequently defends, the mass claim. He also moves the game along by asking people (like yours truly) to stop saying we should move on and actually provide something to move on to. I don't know if that's a town or scum move; I'm inclined to think it's neither and it's for the sake of the game. [Oh, just a request. I'm fine with most nicknames, but I'd rather not get stuck with Idon] Overall, I'm leaning town vet trying to move the game along.

9. gkrieg13
Agrees with faust on claiming which is, as mentioned before, neutral. Supports lynching Jake, but I don't know if that means anything just now. I've got nothing.

So basically, we get to the end and all I have are town and null reads. It's possible that scum happen to be the people I'm not getting reads on, but I doubt that's the case given probability and the experienced people in this game. I need to learn how to read people because at this point I'm not doing much good for anyone.

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