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[EFHW]

I'm not getting towny vibes from the big contributors so far. Lots of metadiscussion, really easier for scum than pretending to scum hunt. My strongest scumread is still probably mail-mi.

[Roadrunner7671]

Call it OMGUS (and it might be) but I'm slightly scummy on mail-mi too. His case against me is really weak, and I generally think weak cases are scummy. Since it's a case against me, I think that magnifies.

[Roadrunner7671]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

[schadd]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

that's not what ergo means. but i c


vote: mail-mi

[Roadrunner7671]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

that's not what ergo means. but i c


vote: mail-mi

I think it works for the situation. It probably isn't the best word but I think it works.

[schadd]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

that's not what ergo means. but i c


vote: mail-mi

I think it works for the situation. It probably isn't the best word but I think it works.

ok

[2.71828.....]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

that's not what ergo means. but i c


vote: mail-mi

I think it works for the situation. It probably isn't the best word but I think it works.

ok

yeah. I like this from RR

[gkrieg13]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

Isn't that just whiteknighting?

[mail-mi]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

unvote I like this from RR too.

Everyone is scumreading them and I think people are wrong. What else should I do about it?

Back to vote: schadd

[Dylan32]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

unvote I like this from RR too.

Everyone is scumreading them and I think people are wrong. What else should I do about it?

Back to vote: schadd

I started typing a post, but then mail posted this and I had to go back and do some reading.  I don't remember and in my skimming didn't see any people scumread RR at all.  Unless ctrl + f failed me, mail was the only person that voted for them at all so far too.  RR actually seems like one of the more consistent town reads by the people who have posted their reads, so mail's claim that "Everyone is scumreading them" looks really scummy to me.  The thought being that if someone agrees that RR looks towny and then believes the claim other people were scumreading RR, that person will be more likely to give mail more town-cred for townreading RR.  I know he (please correct me if I'm wrong) unvoted, but what choice did he have?

That post is enough to make me vote: mail-mi. 

[mail-mi]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

unvote I like this from RR too.

Everyone is scumreading them and I think people are wrong. What else should I do about it?

Back to vote: schadd

I started typing a post, but then mail posted this and I had to go back and do some reading.  I don't remember and in my skimming didn't see any people scumread RR at all.  Unless ctrl + f failed me, mail was the only person that voted for them at all so far too.  RR actually seems like one of the more consistent town reads by the people who have posted their reads, so mail's claim that "Everyone is scumreading them" looks really scummy to me.  The thought being that if someone agrees that RR looks towny and then believes the claim other people were scumreading RR, that person will be more likely to give mail more town-cred for townreading RR.  I know he (please correct me if I'm wrong) unvoted, but what choice did he have?

That post is enough to make me vote: mail-mi.

I sense a misunderstanding. "Them" in this case was Ghacob, not RR. RR is a "he," btw.

[Dylan32]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

unvote I like this from RR too.

Everyone is scumreading them and I think people are wrong. What else should I do about it?

Back to vote: schadd

I started typing a post, but then mail posted this and I had to go back and do some reading.  I don't remember and in my skimming didn't see any people scumread RR at all.  Unless ctrl + f failed me, mail was the only person that voted for them at all so far too.  RR actually seems like one of the more consistent town reads by the people who have posted their reads, so mail's claim that "Everyone is scumreading them" looks really scummy to me.  The thought being that if someone agrees that RR looks towny and then believes the claim other people were scumreading RR, that person will be more likely to give mail more town-cred for townreading RR.  I know he (please correct me if I'm wrong) unvoted, but what choice did he have?

That post is enough to make me vote: mail-mi.

I sense a misunderstanding. "Them" in this case was Ghacob, not RR. RR is a "he," btw.

Crap, that makes sense. I thought I finally saw something worthwhile... While I admit my post is now pointless, I do still like RR's point, so I'm still comfortable with my vote.

[mail-mi]

Well, I'll reread ghacob'S posts when I can and see if they are actually towny like I think they are.

[gkrieg13]

He's also been reverse tunneling Ghacob, ergo calling him town over and over. He's posted things about how Ghacob is so towny 3 times in a row, and he only stopped to point out fluff then vote for me. And I don't like reverse tunneling. It's too much like white knighting. So vote: mail-mi. My mini-case is strong enough for me.

unvote I like this from RR too.

Everyone is scumreading them and I think people are wrong. What else should I do about it?

Back to vote: schadd

I started typing a post, but then mail posted this and I had to go back and do some reading.  I don't remember and in my skimming didn't see any people scumread RR at all.  Unless ctrl + f failed me, mail was the only person that voted for them at all so far too.  RR actually seems like one of the more consistent town reads by the people who have posted their reads, so mail's claim that "Everyone is scumreading them" looks really scummy to me.  The thought being that if someone agrees that RR looks towny and then believes the claim other people were scumreading RR, that person will be more likely to give mail more town-cred for townreading RR.  I know he (please correct me if I'm wrong) unvoted, but what choice did he have?

That post is enough to make me vote: mail-mi.

I sense a misunderstanding. "Them" in this case was Ghacob, not RR. RR is a "he," btw.

Crap, that makes sense. I thought I finally saw something worthwhile... While I admit my post is now pointless, I do still like RR's point, so I'm still comfortable with my vote.

Now this is a crazy townie post from Dylan

[Ghacob]

For the last post, PPE: 1

Who's in this game again? *A very slow and arduous process involving navigating to the first page in a new tab later*

Unless specified, "slight town" reads are being self doubted and will be refined at a later date. My current self worry with that whole deal is that I sometimes have a tendancy to think "ah yes, the town seems to be in consensus that this one is town, therefore they probably are" when that can often leads to bad times. That said:

1. Roadrunner7671: Null
2. SpaceAnemone: Slight town
3. gkrieg13: Good at game. Slight town leaning, but not confident enough in my own ability to recognize
4. J Reggie: Slight town
5. silverspawn: Slight scum. Questioning if by "consensus effect." Gut.
6. chairs: Slight scum. Gut.
8. 2.71828.....:Good at game. Null.
9. mail-mi: Null
10. Dylan32: Slight town
11. schadd: Null
12. EFHW: Null

Reads pretty weak overall right now. Can probably be strengthen by a reread that isn't at 2 AM. mail-mi, I'm not a he

What does your read on me mean?

Basically I was trying to put words into the feeling behind J Reggie's vote here:

So gkrieg is a very hard-to-read player and seems to be pretty confident here. vote: gkrieg.

You, along with e and a few others not involved in this game are what I've arbitrarily have decided are good and hard to read players. You have a tendency to act as a strong member of town, and can often take control of a game on your own, or at least mostly so. You act as a powerful asset to your team whatever you are...

It's slightly also emotional possibly? I feel almost this sense of betrayal from games where the wool was fully pulled over my eyes, not even by you directly, but the idea is still there.

I now mentally have both you and e rated as "null" (this is a change from before for gkrieg) but unlike others where I feel I have insufficient stuff to think about (at least as significantly)


PPE: 6 I frickin' typed this up so long ago...
Will continue with the rest

[skip wooznum]

/tag

[LaLight]

Vote Count 1.5

mail-mi (4): EFHW, Roadrunner7671, schadd, Dylan32
EFHW (1): silverspawn
Ghacob (1): 2.71828.....
Silverspawn (1): chairs
schadd (2): gkrieg13, mail-mi
Chairs (2): Ghacob, SpaceAnemone
gkrieg13 (1): J Reggie

Not Voting (0):

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 1 ends October 21 at 11 am forum time.

[schadd]

Well, I'll reread ghacob'S posts when I can and see if they are actually towny like I think they are.

oh, that's no good

[J Reggie]

Actually, I'm feeling more and more like gkrieg is scum here. Let's lynch him.

[silverspawn]

post to avoid punishment. fell behind again.

[J Reggie]

Well, I'll reread ghacob'S posts when I can and see if they are actually towny like I think they are.

oh, that's no good

Why? Because you and ghacob are scum and you don't want them to be outed?

[J Reggie]

If we don't lynch scum here, D2 we'll only need 2 town votes to lynch.

[EFHW]

It's definitely time to start consolidating votes on fewer wagons.

[gkrieg13]

Actually, I'm feeling more and more like gkrieg is scum here. Let's lynch him.

Because of my "confidence"?  I would love to hear all the scummy things I've done

[gkrieg13]

If we don't lynch scum here, D2 we'll only need 2 town votes to lynch.

This assumes someone dies in the night. Which could be unlikely