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[gkrieg13]

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As per faust's logic, because Jimmmm and Seprix were partners and Jimmmm was mafia, Seprix should be IC right?

[Joseph2302]

Vote: RR

Only logical reason we're not dead is because you're scum.
Also in D1 QT, RR said scum wouldn't kill us, but would kill a hood town player like faust. Convenient how faust was the one night killed.

Really? You don't need to be a genuis to predict the faust NK.

Really? Because if RR was town, scum could have had an almost guaranteed 2 kills. Surely 2 kills is better than 1?

[Roadrunner7671]

Vote: RR

Only logical reason we're not dead is because you're scum.
Also in D1 QT, RR said scum wouldn't kill us, but would kill a hood town player like faust. Convenient how faust was the one night killed.

Um...logical?

1. I'd have to be pretty terrible to (as scum) tell you who we were killing.
2. If you were the Doctor, scum can block you for a while and effectively make you a VT. Or, if we were lovers, scum would've assumed the Doctor would protect us.

And my statement still stands. As scum, I'd rather kill Faust then two mediocre-to-bad town players.

[Roadrunner7671]

Also the WIFOM behind it that Joseph fell for.

[Haddock]

Jimmmm and I might be lovers.

vote: Seprix
Explain yourself.


I'm kinda with Joseph here.  Why would scum pass up the opportunity to either kill a doctor or kill two townies simultaneously?  Makes it fairly likely to my mind that one of RR and Joseph is scum.  I would guess RR, I think?  But this we can find out.

[Haddock]

So, this isn't that useful because scum may have bussed and certainly there'll be plenty of town who didn't like the lurker lynch, but here is:

Haddock's Entirely Subjective Ordering Of People By How Much They Supported The Jimmmm Wagon, From Most Supportive To Least.

Joseph (voted early, never moved)
ced (As everyone, noted that he didn't like lurker lynches, but went Jimm over Awaclus)
Haddock (didn't like the lurker lynch and made that point repeatedly, but stuck it out, mostly for survival, admittedly)
Awaclus (Same picture as Haddock, really)
silver (Ends up on the wagon, but only after jumping on and off a bit)
RR (There for a long time, but his last minute move away nearly saved Jimmm.  Hi No Lynch nonsense is somewhat like him, but still, this looks bad)
ADK (Took quite a while to show up, and when he did went for Awaclus over Jimmm)
iguana (   Sorry to put you so low, man.  Thanks for sticking with us.    )
gkrieg (pretty bad.  He says he's happy with Jimmm by PoE but never votes him that I can see)
Seprix  (Absolutely abominable lover claim)

[gkrieg13]

So, this isn't that useful because scum may have bussed and certainly there'll be plenty of town who didn't like the lurker lynch, but here is:

Haddock's Entirely Subjective Ordering Of People By How Much They Supported The Jimmmm Wagon, From Most Supportive To Least.

Joseph (voted early, never moved)
ced (As everyone, noted that he didn't like lurker lynches, but went Jimm over Awaclus)
Haddock (didn't like the lurker lynch and made that point repeatedly, but stuck it out, mostly for survival, admittedly)
Awaclus (Same picture as Haddock, really)
silver (Ends up on the wagon, but only after jumping on and off a bit)
RR (There for a long time, but his last minute move away nearly saved Jimmm.  Hi No Lynch nonsense is somewhat like him, but still, this looks bad)
ADK (Took quite a while to show up, and when he did went for Awaclus over Jimmm)
iguana (   Sorry to put you so low, man.  Thanks for sticking with us.    )
gkrieg (pretty bad.  He says he's happy with Jimmm by PoE but never votes him that I can see)
Seprix  (Absolutely abominable lover claim)

My main problem with everything was that I really didn't think that Jimmmm would give us much information on the lynch.  I also thought that you were more likely to be scum, and I think the lurker lynch D1 is generally motivated by scum.  Obviously it wasn't this game, and was good, but I think it happens too much.  I don't know.  I have had way too many EgorK or Hydrad mislynches.

I was wrong about the Jimmmmm lynch, but I think we can actually learn a lot from who defended him, because there weren't that many good reasons to really defend him.  I also just didn't like the way the lynch formed.

I would be all for a Seprix lynch, the only problem I see is that he was dating jimmmm, which means that it was a scum/scum neighborhood.  Maybe EFHW just made the neighborhoods available to the speccy, but if you wanted a spoiler free speccy, you could just not read the QTs.

[Seprix]

I think I'm scummier than Seprix. I was over there blowing my nose at Jimmmmm's defense. Still though. Let's here Seprix's pitiful excuse, if he even has one.

You'll hear my pitiful excuse shortly, but I have a case of my own. I've been doing some serious thinking, and I think I know the next scum.

[Seprix]

I was 100% certain Jimmmmm was town. I was so sure, I decided to bluff the lover claim. I'm glad it turned out Jimmmmm was scum, but as you all know, I hate lurker lynches D1. They're way too safe.

[Seprix]

On the very very bright side, Haddock is basically confirmed town now. If he isn't town, that is some serious bussing he did on Jimmmmm.

[gkrieg13]

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As per faust's logic, because Jimmmm and Seprix were partners and Jimmmm was mafia, Seprix should be IC right?

What do people think about this?

[Seprix]

It all depends on the odds of whether scum would be together in a dating scenario D1.

[A Drowned Kernel]

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As per faust's logic, because Jimmmm and Seprix were partners and Jimmmm was mafia, Seprix should be IC right?

What do people think about this?

Eh, I'm not so sure about that. I think it's just as likely that EFHW didn't even consider that when assigning neighborhoods.

 But also: gkrieg said some scummy stuff in our QT last night. The main thing is that he asked who I was requesting, which I found odd, but he also said something that I wouldn't exactly call a scumslip but seemed to imply he was speaking from a scum perspective. It's enough to make me want to vote: gkrieg

[gkrieg13]

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As per faust's logic, because Jimmmm and Seprix were partners and Jimmmm was mafia, Seprix should be IC right?

What do people think about this?

Eh, I'm not so sure about that. I think it's just as likely that EFHW didn't even consider that when assigning neighborhoods.

 But also: gkrieg said some scummy stuff in our QT last night. The main thing is that he asked who I was requesting, which I found odd, but he also said something that I wouldn't exactly call a scumslip but seemed to imply he was speaking from a scum perspective. It's enough to make me want to vote: gkrieg

I think that it is important that people are held responsible for who they requested.  I found you scummy the day before do I wanted to know who you thought was scummy and who you would request

[Joseph2302]

 But also: gkrieg said some scummy stuff in our QT last night. The main thing is that he asked who I was requesting, which I found odd

RR also asked me who I'd pick for neighbourhood - didn't tell him, as I knew that if we were alive, he's almost certainly scum.

[Awaclus]

I told Haddock who I requested and he also told me who he requested.

[iguanaiguana]

I told Haddock who I requested and he also told me who he requested.

Why are you not voting for the confirmed scum?

[Joseph2302]

I told Haddock who I requested and he also told me who he requested.

Why are you not voting for the confirmed scum?

Who is confirmed scum?
Seprix I guess.

[iguanaiguana]

Awaclus always votes for people in these situations, unless he's protecting a hidden interest.

[Joseph2302]

Wait, Seprix lied about being lover, which is scummy.
But was there really a scum/scum QT- seems unlikely.

PPE: 1

[Joseph2302]

Also, do people reckon we have a scum/scum QT D2 or not? I think probably not, as scum don't need it- having 1 person in 2 chats is better than 2 people in 1 chat, when they have daytalk anyway.

[iguanaiguana]

I highly recommend that people do a targeted re-read of Seprix. There is close to zero scum-hunting there. Seprix as town may have weird ideas sometimes, but he's very focused on finding scum.

[Awaclus]

I told Haddock who I requested and he also told me who he requested.

Why are you not voting for the confirmed scum?

I am.

[Seprix]

I told Haddock who I requested and he also told me who he requested.

Why are you not voting for the confirmed scum?

I am.

You vote for me every game. You are wrong every time.

[Seprix]

I highly recommend that people do a targeted re-read of Seprix. There is close to zero scum-hunting there. Seprix as town may have weird ideas sometimes, but he's very focused on finding scum.

I went aggressive in the other Mafia game, and by the time I started this one, I was already in hot water in the other game, so I decided to tone down the rhetoric a little. Not to mention, people in this gave have been more reserved in general. But before I forget, I need to present my case.